What about analogs? If an analog contains 800mg of tobacco, and it contains only 3% nicotine, that's up to 24mg nicotine in a single analog!
What's easier to eat, a soft analog, or a plastic cylinder?
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What about analogs? If an analog contains 800mg of tobacco, and it contains only 3% nicotine, that's up to 24mg nicotine in a single analog!
What's easier to eat, a soft analog, or a plastic cylinder?
Well, it's very obvious that truth and reason play no part in this struggle. I just don't understand why there is so much disinformation and resistance to the one thing that might help me live longer. I know that their party is in power now and has apparently let loose the dogs of war. But I was not prepared for the struggle that is now playing out.
We will have to change the way we are addressing this issue if we hope to win. We are out gunned and out numbered. They apparently have a plan and are executing it very well. Who knows what their real motive is, that may or may not ever be revealed. Right now the problem we face is very real. We need a working counter measure.
Kevin
We will have to change the way we are addressing this issue if we hope to win. We are out gunned and out numbered. They apparently have a plan and are executing it very well. Who knows what their real motive is, that may or may not ever be revealed. Right now the problem we face is very real. We need a working counter measure.
Kevin
I just went to the ASH website, and sent a little email to the CONTACT US email address.
It was addressed to webmaster@whatever.whatever.whatever.
Anyway, I used the F word about 17 times.
I called them Aholes about 13 times.
I suggested they were trying to kill me.
I told them I would fight them until my last dying breath.
Then I suggested that they kindly forward my email to that Banzhoff dude.
Or whatever his name is.
I don't really care what happens to my email.
But I know one thing, it can't make things worse.
But maybe it will strike a chord with the webmaster.
It made me feel a lot better anyway, and that is worth the price of admission.
It was addressed to webmaster@whatever.whatever.whatever.
Anyway, I used the F word about 17 times.
I called them Aholes about 13 times.
I suggested they were trying to kill me.
I told them I would fight them until my last dying breath.
Then I suggested that they kindly forward my email to that Banzhoff dude.
Or whatever his name is.
I don't really care what happens to my email.
But I know one thing, it can't make things worse.
But maybe it will strike a chord with the webmaster.
It made me feel a lot better anyway, and that is worth the price of admission.
Outstanding, as here is my reply from them...
Thank you for taking the time to send your comment or suggestion concerning the ASH Internet Website to the ASH webmaster.
However, the new address for persons who are NOT members of ASH is ashwebmaster@ash.org
All comments sent to the ASH webmaster are very carefully read and evaluated.
As the ASH web site -- already the most popular antismoking web site on the Internet -- is constantly being revised and improved, we cannot always act immediately on every suggestion received, no matter how meritorious.
MOREOVER, PLEASE NOTE THAT THE LARGE VOLUME OF COMMENTS THE ASH WEBSITE RECEIVES EVERY SINGLE DAY MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE WEBMASTER TO PROVIDE AN INDIVIDUALIZED RESPONSE.
Also, this e-mail address is designed ONLY to receive comments and suggestions concerning the ASH Internet web site -- AND NOTHING ELSE.
IF YOU HAVE INCLUDED A MESSAGE OF ANY OTHER KIND, WE REGRET THAT IT CANNOT BE ACTED UPON OR EVEN FORWARDED TO THE MAIN OFFICE OF ASH FROM THIS E-MAIL LOCATION.
TO CONTACT ASH DIRECTLY:
Action on Smoking and Health (ASH)
2013 H Street, NW
Washington, DC 20006
(202) 659-4310
PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT, DUE TO LARGE NUMBER OF CALLS AND LETTERS RECEIVED EVERY DAY, ASH GENERALLY CANNOT PROVIDE INDIVIDUALIZED RESPONSES.
THIS POLICY HELPS TO INSURE THAT YOUR TAX-DEDUCTIBLE CONTRIBUTION WILL BE USED IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY - TO FIGHT SMOKING AND TO PROTECT NONSMOKERS - RATHER THAN TO PROVIDE INDIVIDUALIZED ANSWERS TO THE MANY QUESTIONS PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT SMOKING.
ALL OF THE INFORMATION ASH HAS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS AVAILABLE ON ITS INTERNET WEB SITE -- http://ash.org -- AND READERS ARE ASKED TO FIND WHAT BEST SUITS THEIR NEEDS BY USING THE VARIOUS SEARCH TOOLS PROVIDED. THESE SEARCH TOOLS ARE CONSTANTLY BEING ENHANCED AND IMPROVED.
If you have joined ASH by sending credit card information to us online, please note that it may take as much as ONE COMPLETE BUSINESS DAY for ASH to process the information and Email you the password necessary to access restricted portions of ASH's web site.
Thank you very much for your cooperation and understanding.
Thank you for taking the time to send your comment or suggestion concerning the ASH Internet Website to the ASH webmaster.
However, the new address for persons who are NOT members of ASH is ashwebmaster@ash.org
All comments sent to the ASH webmaster are very carefully read and evaluated.
As the ASH web site -- already the most popular antismoking web site on the Internet -- is constantly being revised and improved, we cannot always act immediately on every suggestion received, no matter how meritorious.
MOREOVER, PLEASE NOTE THAT THE LARGE VOLUME OF COMMENTS THE ASH WEBSITE RECEIVES EVERY SINGLE DAY MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE WEBMASTER TO PROVIDE AN INDIVIDUALIZED RESPONSE.
Also, this e-mail address is designed ONLY to receive comments and suggestions concerning the ASH Internet web site -- AND NOTHING ELSE.
IF YOU HAVE INCLUDED A MESSAGE OF ANY OTHER KIND, WE REGRET THAT IT CANNOT BE ACTED UPON OR EVEN FORWARDED TO THE MAIN OFFICE OF ASH FROM THIS E-MAIL LOCATION.
TO CONTACT ASH DIRECTLY:
Action on Smoking and Health (ASH)
2013 H Street, NW
Washington, DC 20006
(202) 659-4310
PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT, DUE TO LARGE NUMBER OF CALLS AND LETTERS RECEIVED EVERY DAY, ASH GENERALLY CANNOT PROVIDE INDIVIDUALIZED RESPONSES.
THIS POLICY HELPS TO INSURE THAT YOUR TAX-DEDUCTIBLE CONTRIBUTION WILL BE USED IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY - TO FIGHT SMOKING AND TO PROTECT NONSMOKERS - RATHER THAN TO PROVIDE INDIVIDUALIZED ANSWERS TO THE MANY QUESTIONS PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT SMOKING.
ALL OF THE INFORMATION ASH HAS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS AVAILABLE ON ITS INTERNET WEB SITE -- http://ash.org -- AND READERS ARE ASKED TO FIND WHAT BEST SUITS THEIR NEEDS BY USING THE VARIOUS SEARCH TOOLS PROVIDED. THESE SEARCH TOOLS ARE CONSTANTLY BEING ENHANCED AND IMPROVED.
If you have joined ASH by sending credit card information to us online, please note that it may take as much as ONE COMPLETE BUSINESS DAY for ASH to process the information and Email you the password necessary to access restricted portions of ASH's web site.
Thank you very much for your cooperation and understanding.
Well Kevin, now you have your blinders off and can see the real issue in the fight. These groups do not believe in harm reduction via smoking anything. It's quit or die. If there is no such thing as a safer cigarette...that would include the e-cigarette. I really hope that the e-cig will be the very first product in the "harm reduction" theory to beat the current mind-set out there. I fear the emphasis on preventative health problems via lifestyle choice will render the point moot. 8-o
And one positive is that until now, the tobacco harm reduction camp has not had a product that smokers could actually get behind and help move the message forward.
Here is a blatant example of ASH's attitude toward smokers and now, of course, to vapers.
It's called, "They'll Just Have to Die"
http://www.forces.org/Multimedia_Portal/index.php
It's called, "They'll Just Have to Die"
http://www.forces.org/Multimedia_Portal/index.php
Sadly none of the problems with ASH is about health....it's all about winning and loosing, if smokers have found an alternative to smoking, it makes these people feel as if they have 'lost' the battle against smokers. They will fight against vaping even more than they fight against tobacco.
Here is a transcript with that radio interview with that ..... Jane DeVille-Almond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVYKE1lWYYs
Nice. This is the mentality of the people we are facing, folks.
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Yup, you pretty much summed it up. How dare we "look" like we're smoking while we enjoy our nicotine.
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but here is the response to ASH from E Cigarette Direct:
E Cigarette Direct Responds to Ash Letter
E Cigarette Direct Responds to Ash Letter
Put that in the pressroom and sent it to PRLog for distribution. Hopefully someone will pick up on it.
E Cigarette Direct Responds to ASH Attack
These are nice articles folks, but they are articles preaching to the quire. We need to move these type of articles out to mainstream news.
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