Good News From China

[thephoenix]

Hello. Just reporting in on info I received from my manufacturer in China. I had sent them the warning letters the FDA sent out and asked them what action (if any) they & DEKANG are planning in light of the FDA's posturing.

I was assured they are all ready arranging a meeting with DEKANG to ensure that the juice produced can meet any & all of the FDA's requirements.

So the good news is it appears that at least one Chinese manufacturer is aware of what's happening and all ready taking the steps to meet the challenge ahead.

I would like to ask that all customers contact their favorite brand of ejuice - specifically if that juice is produced by DEKANG and ask them how they plan to work with their manufacturers to confront the FDA head on.

If we all act now & get our ducks in a row, we could be in good position once the NJOY court case clears & the FDA then decides what it is going to do...

Thanks for reading!

 

[dee5]

Way to take the initiative! : )

 

[Harley]

Great news,,,, Just have no idea where this is all going.............

 

[thephoenix]

Way to take the initiative! : )

thank you. but i think it's our responsibility as suppliers to take as preemptive approach to this as possible. i also believe it's mostly the responsibilty of the juice manufacturers to ensure their product is legit and up to any curve balls the FDA throws it's way.

as if they do succeed with classifying eCigs under the FDCA - then a lot (if not all) smaller players will be run right out of biz rather than submit to clinical trials...but if the money machine that is the Chinese manufacturers start working on compliance now - then we could be a lot further ahead no matter what happens...

and at the end of the day - they should be giving us (US suppliers) the tools we need in ingredient listing, etc so that we can do our business unfettered and also ensure we're delivering the best & safest product to our customers...

i'm very pleased with my manufacturer's response as they seem willing to do whatever it takes to make it over this hurdle...and they should be - a lot bigger players than me buy from them...and if everyone's suddenly unable to sell Chinese juice due to Chinese inaction on the matter - then they can only blame themselves for not taking the right action...

i happen to believe in DEKANG & really like their products - and above that, they seem like smart cookies...so here's to hoping!

 

[Tampa2]

Dekang is listing all ingredients in the liquids if you ask them to. In order to be in compliance, you better list ingredients, and expiration date, as well as warning for children. some of those companies cited never bothered with any of the above.

 

[thephoenix]

Excellent news...Luckily for me I had those very ingredients delivered to my inbox from my very own eCig guardian angel...

 

[markarich159]

I was assured they are all ready arranging a meeting with DEKANG to ensure that the juice produced can meet any & all of the FDA's requirements.

So the good news is it appears that at least one Chinese manufacturer is aware of what's happening and all ready taking the steps to meet the challenge ahead.

Hi Pheonix;
Although I agree totally with you on Dekang being the current standard that other juice manufacturers should be shooting for(considering their cleanroom production facility and numerous independent certifications); I would just like to point out that Ruyan said, almost verbatim, the same thing about meeting with the US FDA last year right after the FDA DEG/TSNA report was published(of course this "FDA meeting statement" was not true).

I would hope that Dekang's statement may hold more validity than Ruyan's as I feel, if any eliquid producer is following FDA cGMP(or at least close to it), it is Dekang. Unfortunately if FDA is still insisting that eliquid is a drug, Dekang would have to submit an NDA(with clinical test results) and go through the approvals process(who know's though, maybe they HAVE done testing that we, in the US, are unaware of??)

 

[thephoenix]

yeah, i hear you...but the cool thing about DEKANG is that they did release new labels with their ingredients which are all ready on our site:
VG Liquitine E-Juice Premium

We're also working on a USA made offering and the manufacturer has promised the same clarity in labeling...so it seems those with integrity are getting in line & also preparing to face the inevitable...

 

[davielawson]

Hi thephoenix, and thank you for the update. It is certainly a step forward for the industry. There are not many industries who use such (potentially) harmful APIs and are not regulated. Intellicig (UK) have been working towards production to cGMP for a considerable time now in an effort to self regulate the company prior to regulation being introduced. We operate as closely to cGMP guidelines as are possible.

The MHRA (UK) are expected to make a decision of regulation by the end of the month, if suppliers are not willing to produce to a pharmaceutical standard one must question what they are currently doing, and how different their procedures are now to what they must conform to!

I believe it is beneficial to the consumer to have the industry regulated and with it will bring a higher standard of quality and safety. Customer safety should come first to any product and it is through strict guidelines such as GMP that this can be achieved.

Intellicig are also working with the FDA to meet their requirements for regulation and ensure the highest standards where ever Intellicig is available!

 

[thephoenix]

hey, davie...that's good to know...we're looking to expand into UK by the end of the year, but are waiting to see how the legal weather is over there...

too much of a thunderstorm on this front to worry about!