Got a DNA 30, Need Help!

[tj99959]

Nonsense. It's not just about resistance, voltage and the watts those variables combine to make. It's also about the amount of metal those watts are heating. X amount of ohms means nothing by itself. A short piece of thin wire and multiple pieces of long, thick wire in parallel can have the same resistance, but will have nowhere near the same level of performance at the same power setting. Then add chamber size, airflow, surface area of heating elements, wicking, etc, and it complicates it even more. Voltage and resistance are only two of many variables that affect overall performance.

You can build both 1.2 ohm or the 0.5 ohm coils to do what ever you want, that wasn't the point. They are both 30 watt setups.

And the kayfun is a single coil device with a chamber size and airflow ability that allow 30w to cover the range of what it was designed for.

Actually NO.
The DNA-20 & 30 do not have 'step down', so for many popular KF builds they do NOT work well.
ie: 1.25 ohms @ 9 watts = 3.35v. So they would shot down at almost the same time as finally providing the desired wattage.
There are probably 100 times the number of people vaping between 7 & 10 watts as there are those vaping at +30 watts, and the KF is aimed at that market.

 

[DoctorD]

So I made a 1.2 ohm dual coil build and it's giving me exactly what I wanted. Great flavor, warm vape, and it heats up nice and fast. I used 28g Kanthal and did 16 wraps around a 5/64th bit. @ 30 Watts she really kicks some ...! Appreciate all the input, it was a big help. Now I know what kind of builds to use with my DNA 30.
Here's a pic of the setup. It's in a Vulcan RDA, which looks sick on my black Hana Modz box.

 

[Smann245]

You read what you want don't you? I said 30 watts would cover the Kayfuns potential. I never said anything about vaping one at 30w. Most people vaping a kayfun at 9 watts don't have a device that goes much higher. From what I've read, those with more power options are between 15 and 25w. I like mine at 18.

 

[Smann245]

DrD - Nice build.

 

[yoitstj]

I've been building for dna 30 boxes for a while. You want to do a 28 g kanthal parallel 10 wraps on a 3 mm drill bit or screw driver. Single coil only. Dna 30 really only good for single. Dual coils too much ramp up time w only 30 watts. Also keep in mind battery life won't be great running at 30 w all the time. Good luck.

 

[ALittleTooLoose]

As someone who prefers single coil set ups the DNA30 is just about all I need, 28 gauge 1.2-1.7 ohm coil usually vape it at around 25 watts hitting 7ish volts. Gives me a nice warm, dense flavorful vape on my tugboat. Can't see wanting any more, but for dual coil set ups or for those who really want to push out giant clouds you're gonna want to stick with a mech or go with a higher wattage device.

 

[danca90]

You read what you want don't you? I said 30 watts would cover the Kayfuns potential. I never said anything about vaping one at 30w. Most people vaping a kayfun at 9 watts don't have a device that goes much higher. From what I've read, those with more power options are between 15 and 25w. I like mine at 18.

This explains all of the MVP's with Kayfuns. I guess that would be like flying a 747 with a weed whacker engine. Or would it be a bicycle with a 300D engine? Or maybe, a stroller with an electric tooth brush motor? Or would it be an RC car powered by plutonium? Or perhaps a Honda with a ford engine?

 

[Smann245]

Exactly. The MVP has an 11w limit so it's a perfect example of why people are running a kayfun at 9-11 watts. They have no choice. How many dna 30 device owners are running their kayfun at 9-11 watts?

 

[DoctorD]

Just wanted to update this thread with some things that I've found, in case anyone else buying a DNA 20 or DNA 30 mod has any of the same questions I had when I first got the device.

After about a dozen builds and a week of experimentation, I've learned how to properly harness the power of this device when using dual coil setups. I went from thinking it was under-powered and incapable of being my all-day device, to using it pretty much exclusively.

I learned that in order to get a high quality vape with a dual coil setup, you need to wrap very small inner diameter coils. Smaller diameter coils (1/16" ID or less) tend to be much more efficient on this device. If I build, say, a 1.2 ohm dual coil setup and the inner diameter is 3/32", it's gonna produce less vapor and be less efficient than a 1.2 ohm dual coil setup with a 1/16" or smaller inner diameter. Obviously this is all SUBJECTIVE and MY OPINION only, but it defintely seems to be the case.

Also, I find that 1.0-1.5 ohms is the definite sweet spot on this bad boy (with 1.2-1.4 ohms being PERFECT), which is great for flavor chasers, because with dual coils you can get a whole lot of surface area at 1.0-1.5 ohms. My absolute favorite setup is an 18 wrap, 1/16", dual micro coil build with 28g kanthal. It heats up fast, gives great flavor, and can go toe-to-toe with most moderately sub-ohm mechanical mod builds, in MY opinion.

I've also found that "super nano" builds, or coils with an inner diamater comparable to that of a 26g or 28g syringe needle, hit EXTREMELY hard on this mod. I had to drop down 10 watts to comfortably use it.

Basically, I've found that the smaller the diameter of the coils, the more efficient the build. If you're looking for a more dense & cloudy vape, try wrapping around your super small bits. Keep your resistance between 1.0 & 1.5 ohms (again, I find 1.2-1.4 ohms is PERFECT), because this device shines around 6V, which is about what you'll get with a 1.2ohm setup at 30 watts.

Again, everything I've posted is MY opinion, and is subjective. This is just what I've found works for ME.

Hope I helped somebody! Happy vaping ECF!



Oh, and here's a picture of my current (and favorite) build. Dual coil, 28g Kanthal, 1/16" ID, 18 wraps, wicked thru the coils & on a cotton cloud (used Japanese cotton pads, would highly recommend them) in a Vulcan RDA on my Hana Modz DNA 30 box.

 

[DoctorD]

I also wanted to post a short video of the mod in use at 30 watts, so people can get a feel for the level of vapor produced. It's very dense and satisfying, and I'm used to .2-.3 ohm builds on mechanical mods!