Got a Starter kit, now what?

[JDW]

Okay so I got the Realis starter kit (£35) it comes with 6 cartridges which are all filled up I presume, I've put the personal charging case on its 8 hour charge as recommended by the company before using it for the first time. So how long should these 6 x 1.8% Disposable Tips last me, if I'm vaping them for roughly 40 minutes - 2 hours a day? How many puffs do you get out of 1 x1.8%? Also when the e-cig stops producing vapour or it flashes does that mean I should throw away the Tip and replace it with a new one?

As well what should I be thinking about investing in next,more tips and e-liquid etc?

Buy Liberro™ Realis Electronic Cigarette Realistic All in One Starter Pack | Libero shop - £35.00
^ Thats the link to what I bought.

Thanks!

 

[SubSplat]

How long a carto lasts depends heavily on how you use it. Puffs don't come in standard sizes

Basically, you just have to get a feel for it. Vapor production will drop off gradually. When the taste changes slightly, you're almost at the end. If it starts tasting singed/burnt, you've gone too far. You'll definitely notice if you get to that point, there's no missing it. This will happen at least a few times, till you get a feel for it. If you don't plan on refilling the cartos, that's really not a big deal. If you do want to buy liquid and refill them, avoid getting to that point if possible.

If it helps, I used to smoke about a pack a day, maybe a little less. When I started vaping, a carto would last me about 2/3rds of a day. But that's a very rough guideline, at best.

If the light flashes, that's the battery running out of power. Has nothing to do with the carto.

Lithium-Ion batteries do not care about being fully charged and discharged on first use. That sort of advice is a relic from the olden days, when NiCad batteries were the norm. You can charge and use Li-Ions however you like. You can even be charging, take it off the charger, take a few puffs, put it back on the charger. In fact, they prefer being in a perpetual state of half-charge. Never full, never empty. Doesn't make too much of a difference either though. Just use them however is most convenient. Practically all batteries you will ever encounter these days are Li-Ion.

Do make sure to buy more cartos long before you run out. Might as well get on that right now. Nothing is worse than running out when you've just started and being forced to go back to the tarsticks while you wait for the mailman. If you stick to vaping exclusively for even a couple of days or so, real cigarettes will start smelling and tasting nasty. Really nasty.

Getting eLiquid and refilling is much more economical. And opens up a huge variety of flavors. Cleaning, refilling and maintaining cartos can be a hassle though. But tinkering with them can also be fun and rewarding. It's up to you whether you want to spend the time and enjoy the benefits, or just want to buy and toss pre-filled cartos for convenience.

 

[AzureNeko]

Flashing lights always means battery wants a recharge. SubSplat was spot on on everything. ALWAYS SHAKE YOUR ELIQUID BOTTLE! If you are using the option of filling your own cartos. I can't stress that enough. I didn't even think about that and it makes a difference.

I started off with the V2 STANDARD KIT - V2 CIGS and it was just not NEARLY as economical for me nor pleasing. The vapor wasn't really warm, just there. You have to suck really hard to get the vapor. The hit isn't impressive. It was nothing like smoking a real cigarette, just had the right size.

Also, one more little tip, the smaller, cigarette sized ecigs tend to need to be recharged a LOT. Which is extremely annoying, at least I thought so. Personally I would recommend KGO 1100 mAh 2 battery kit. The batteries last a great deal longer, and they create a warmer vapor as well as more of it. The pretty little slim, cigarette sized ecigs just never live up to your expectations of what an ecig should be like. Of course, this is my opinion, and you can take it or leave it. If you do decide on going for the KGO, you'll want to get a few boxes of Boge 2.0ohm LR cartomizers for 510 to go with it, and some eliquid. I just tried out some of Hoosier's flavors and I liked them. I've also been trying some VaporBomb.com flavors. Really delicious.

Oh but, of course I'm American so these are far more local for me...either way EGO and KGO batteries are REALLY good!

 

[winfab]

wow these 2 guys covered everything, my only other recommendation is to look at a site called liberty flights, they ship to the UK and you will be able to find most of the stuff they mention there.

Happy vaping!

Edit: for e-liquid, I suggest blue mist vaping, they have awesome prices & will also ship to the UK

 

[dearme]

And Liberty Flights has a UK website as well as US.

 

[JDW]

How long a carto lasts depends heavily on how you use it. Puffs don't come in standard sizes

Basically, you just have to get a feel for it. Vapor production will drop off gradually. When the taste changes slightly, you're almost at the end. If it starts tasting singed/burnt, you've gone too far. You'll definitely notice if you get to that point, there's no missing it. This will happen at least a few times, till you get a feel for it. If you don't plan on refilling the cartos, that's really not a big deal. If you do want to buy liquid and refill them, avoid getting to that point if possible.

If it helps, I used to smoke about a pack a day, maybe a little less. When I started vaping, a carto would last me about 2/3rds of a day. But that's a very rough guideline, at best.

If the light flashes, that's the battery running out of power. Has nothing to do with the carto.

Lithium-Ion batteries do not care about being fully charged and discharged on first use. That sort of advice is a relic from the olden days, when NiCad batteries were the norm. You can charge and use Li-Ions however you like. You can even be charging, take it off the charger, take a few puffs, put it back on the charger. In fact, they prefer being in a perpetual state of half-charge. Never full, never empty. Doesn't make too much of a difference either though. Just use them however is most convenient. Practically all batteries you will ever encounter these days are Li-Ion.

Do make sure to buy more cartos long before you run out. Might as well get on that right now. Nothing is worse than running out when you've just started and being forced to go back to the tarsticks while you wait for the mailman. If you stick to vaping exclusively for even a couple of days or so, real cigarettes will start smelling and tasting nasty. Really nasty.

Getting eLiquid and refilling is much more economical. And opens up a huge variety of flavors. Cleaning, refilling and maintaining cartos can be a hassle though. But tinkering with them can also be fun and rewarding. It's up to you whether you want to spend the time and enjoy the benefits, or just want to buy and toss pre-filled cartos for convenience.

Hi, so I'm starting to get the grips of e-smoking nowalthough I still have a few more questions. How do I know how much charge thebattery has? I also came across when I started vaping for about 5 minutes itstarted vaping for 10 seconds without me inhaling on it then the LED flashedtwice, why did it do that?

I would like to know what the cheapest way is to vapebecause on the Liberro website its £20 for 10 cartridges which seems a littlepricey. Is this the price I should expect to be paying for 10 cartridges (tips)and if I go for the method of filling the cartridges myself how should I goabout cleaning and maintaing the cartridges that once were filled withe-liquid, do I have to clean them in some way then fill them up with newe-liquid?

Out of the two methods what will be cheaper?

Oh and if I was looking for a device to use for vaping casuallynot for the nicotine then what should I look for, a e-cigar/pipe?

Thank you very much for all the advice already given, muchappreciated.

 

[JDW]

Flashing lights always means battery wants a recharge. SubSplat was spot on on everything. ALWAYS SHAKE YOUR ELIQUID BOTTLE! If you are using the option of filling your own cartos. I can't stress that enough. I didn't even think about that and it makes a difference.

I started off with the V2 STANDARD KIT - V2 CIGS and it was just not NEARLY as economical for me nor pleasing. The vapor wasn't really warm, just there. You have to suck really hard to get the vapor. The hit isn't impressive. It was nothing like smoking a real cigarette, just had the right size.

Also, one more little tip, the smaller, cigarette sized ecigs tend to need to be recharged a LOT. Which is extremely annoying, at least I thought so. Personally I would recommend KGO 1100 mAh 2 battery kit. The batteries last a great deal longer, and they create a warmer vapor as well as more of it. The pretty little slim, cigarette sized ecigs just never live up to your expectations of what an ecig should be like. Of course, this is my opinion, and you can take it or leave it. If you do decide on going for the KGO, you'll want to get a few boxes of Boge 2.0ohm LR cartomizers for 510 to go with it, and some eliquid. I just tried out some of Hoosier's flavors and I liked them. I've also been trying some VaporBomb.com flavors. Really delicious.

Oh but, of course I'm American so these are far more local for me...either way EGO and KGO batteries are REALLY good!

Same goes to you! I much appreciate the advice you gave, oh and my LED did flash twice but following the instructions I got from the manual, it should have been charged? Do you think it will still need more charging even if the LED light goes off during the charging stages?

 

[JDW]

wow these 2 guys covered everything, my only other recommendation is to look at a site called liberty flights, they ship to the UK and you will be able to find most of the stuff they mention there.

Happy vaping!

Edit: for e-liquid, I suggest blue mist vaping, they have awesome prices & will also ship to the UK

Thanks win and dearme, I'll check that site out. Is it okay to refill the disposable tips I got from the starter kit? If so then how long should I keep re-using them until it gets to a point where I should buy some new empty ones or already filled ones?

 

[winfab]

The LED will flash twice to indicate you are taking too long of a drag, it is a cut off switch to prevent damage to the components.

Refilling cartridges is way more cost effective then using them once and tossing them, a cartridge may last 7-10 days YMMV. That's how long they last for me.

Different liquids affect cartridges differently, for instance, a thicker e liquid may decrease the life of one. Also the PG/VG content will affect it. For cartridges it has been my experiece that 80PG/20VG is the best ratio.

 

[swedishfish]

Most cartomizers hold under a ml of juice. You don't vape it bone dry, so maybe you vape 1/2 or 3/4 of the ml. The average amount most people vape is 2/3-5 ml per day. More in the beginning because you're learning. If you vape 4 ml a day, that be 4-5 cartos a day. Don't vape them dry because it'll burn the cartomizer and have to be thrown away.

 

[JDW]

Most cartomizers hold under a ml of juice. You don't vape it bone dry, so maybe you vape 1/2 or 3/4 of the ml. The average amount most people vape is 2/3-5 ml per day. More in the beginning because you're learning. If you vape 4 ml a day, that be 4-5 cartos a day. Don't vape them dry because it'll burn the cartomizer and have to be thrown away.

How do I know when the cart is close to bone dry?

Also, can I charge the battery and charge the personal charging case at the same time?

 

[dearme]

That's a slim ecig. If you decide to buy more cartos (cartomizers, what you are calling tips), be sure to buy SR (Standard Resistance) cartos. LRs cartos will ruin your battery.

The website says 160 to 180 puffs per carto, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. They using 2 second puffs to calculate that.
they are also saying 200 puffs per battery charge which is doubtful. It's a 190mah battery and you can figure about 1 hr per 100mah, so the battery will last about 2 hrs of medium vaping. Since that almost the same as they are saying puff per carto, you can figure on putting a new carto on about when you need to charge the battery. It's really hard to say as you really don't know how full the carto is. You need to change the carto when the vapor starts to fall off or you notice a change of taste.

Most prefilled cartos are refillable. Buy some ejuice to refill them. The tip on the end that you put in your mouth usually comes off to refill. If you plan on refilling the cartos, be sure not to vape the carto dry of juice. You will burn the filling and you can never get that taste out, so better safe than sorry. You do not need to clean a carto before refilling, just add more juice of a complementary flavor and they will blend together.

That kit only comes with one battery. Order at least one more immediately because it will take about 2 1/2 hours to charge.

 

[swedishfish]

When you lose flavor, I would top it off with a few drops of juice if you have juice. If you look at it, you can sort of tell. It's really white.

The second question, I don't know the answer to that one sorry. Good question. I have a pcc and usually charge it then the battery but maybe you can. Someone else might know the answer to that one.

 

[dearme]

PS.....the prefilled cartos that come with the kit only holds .7ml instead of the normal 1ml so they will run out sooner. Definitely order some eliquid soon.

 

[JDW]

That's a slim ecig. If you decide to buy more cartos (cartomizers, what you are calling tips), be sure to buy SR (Standard Resistance) cartos. LRs cartos will ruin your battery.

The website says 160 to 180 puffs per carto, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. They using 2 second puffs to calculate that.
they are also saying 200 puffs per battery charge which is doubtful. It's a 190mah battery and you can figure about 1 hr per 100mah, so the battery will last about 2 hrs of medium vaping. Since that almost the same as they are saying puff per carto, you can figure on putting a new carto on about when you need to charge the battery. It's really hard to say as you really don't know how full the carto is. You need to change the carto when the vapor starts to fall off or you notice a change of taste.

Most prefilled cartos are refillable. Buy some ejuice to refill them. The tip on the end that you put in your mouth usually comes off to refill. If you plan on refilling the cartos, be sure not to vape the carto dry of juice. You will burn the filling and you can never get that taste out, so better safe than sorry. You do not need to clean a carto before refilling, just add more juice of a complementary flavor and they will blend together.

That kit only comes with one battery. Order at least one more immediately because it will take about 2 1/2 hours to charge.

Okay so I was looking at this product for the E-liquid, do you think that is a good investment for a beginner? PG Unflavoured 30ml - CN Sourced - 24MG

E Liquid - Original - E Liquid 30ML - PG - Tobaccos
^ That is the link that the e-liquid was on.

 

[winfab]

That e liquid would work, bear in mind no tobacco juice will ever taste like a cig did, you will probably find as you vape that other flavors may also be interesting such as baked goods, fruits etc.

 

[AzureNeko]

Unflavored means just that, no flavor, no tobacco flavor either. It's for people who want to add their own flavor to the liquid. I would suggest the 24ml nicotine strength because that seems to help people convert to ecigs. So I would definitely look for one of the liquids that have SOME flavor in them.

Also the reason no tobacco flavoring will taste exactly like your cigarette is your cigaette was burning the tobacco leaf. So you were also tasting smoke in there and the other chemicals being released. I've heard people who have tried tobacco tea think it tastes a lot like that.

 

[dearme]

No, don't buy that. That's nic liquid for DIY mixing of your own eliquid.

Actually, after looking at Liberty Flights eliquids, I wouldn't buy any eliquids there, because they don't tell you what the PG/VG percentage they are using in them. From what I can make out, all their eliquids are either 100% PG, or 100% VG. What you want to start off is a mixture of 80% PG and 20% VG as that will work best in cartos. When you have more experience, you can change it to suit yourself, but this is a good beginning. I found this site was not very clear at all about their elquids.

Some of the other UK members will probably be by shortly and will be able to point you to a better site for eliquids, and possibly cheaper, as the prices seemed high to me, but they may not be for UK vendors.

 

[AzureNeko]

I would probably go with their Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - E-Power for a starter kit. It says "EU Customers : Please note, this pack does not currently come with a EU plug, it does come with a UK plug." I hope that isn't a problem.

Electronic Cigarette - Cartomizers - Boge Cartomizers (The first choice: 510 2.0 Ohm) Also get a few packs of this at least. While you are learning you are bound to burn a few, and once in a while you'll get one dud, so you want MANY on hand.

Get drip tips! They make adding juice in much easier. Mods - Drip Tips Size and shape don't really matter as long as they say they go with the 510 which an e-power takes. So have fun picking a pretty color or something that amuses you.

My other bit of advise is get a BUNCH of 5ml bottles of different flavors. You are in the trial period looking for a flavor you like. You really don't want to get stuck smoking a flavor you hate for days on end. So while it's more expensive to get them in the smaller bottle, in the end it will save you much heartache because if you end up smoking something you hate for a long time the temptation to go back to your tobacco cigarettes will increase.

That's what I'd tell ANY beginner. Once you get the hang of an epower and finding flavors you like, you can start messing around with other things. Such as maybe more powerful batteries for instance.

 

[Chrissie]

Hello JDW

Here is a list of some of the many good UK e-cig & juice suppliers - any known discount codes shown next to the names.

ALL ABOUT E-CIGARETTES UK - Recommended & new suppliers (e-cig/juice sellers)

Liberro who you bought from are good, but they are far from the cheapest.