Grand Opening at Maximum Vapors!!!!!!!!!

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Toddbak24

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Thanks Odium, it just makes me upset because I try very hard to make my products as nice as I can. Yes if this guy wasnt such a jerk I would have sent him a brand new one even know he got this used.




I guess they didn't know that you offer one free refinish on every woodie in existence as long as the person asking for the refinish has the orginal receipt *shrugs*....

Can't please them all, Todd.... Keep up the hard work and make as many people happy as you can! Don't let this incident bring you down :D
 

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Some people just lack social skills lol.... Had he come at your correct, I know you would have done everything within your power to resolve the issue but instead he throws a fit! What did he expect? And in trading with others it's customary to see photos first. If all these problems were present he should have declined the trade and if it showed up damaged or it wasn't what he was expecting after it's previous owner butchered it he should have complained to the person he traded with
 

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My apologies to Max Vapors. It seems we were both ripped off. The guy I traded the unit with traded it as brand new. It seems he received a discount due to the imperfections and wanted to refinish it himself. I did not know anyof this and took the guy I traded with at his word. Lesson learned and once again, I apologize.

Ok how funny you posted this here before you even heard the truth.. So this guy actually got this item in a trade from another person that did order a Woodie from me and he did not like the finish. So I asked this person to send it back. He said no he would like to refinish the Woodie himself so I refunded 20.00 and he must have refinished it badly. So you my friend did not buy this new from ME! So I would say you need to go back to the guy you bought it from and get your trade back. If you come on my thread again posting garbage like this I will make sure you are banned from ECF for ever!

Here is this persons email stating he got this unit in a trade.


Todd
I just swapped for the unit referenced above. The finish is abominable. Its full of aligatoring, runs, drips and even hair, dried into the finish.

Are you a woodworker? You should be ashamed of yourself putting crap like this on the market.

I threw the unit out it was so poorly constructed

I will be leaving feedback on the ecf.

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My apologies to Max Vapors. It seems we were both ripped off. The guy I traded the unit with traded it as brand new. It seems he received a discount due to the imperfections and wanted to refinish it himself. I did not know anyof this and took the guy I traded with at his word. Lesson learned and once again, I apologize.

These type of things happen but you really should have waited for Todd to reply before you took any further actions.... Just saying :2c:

Todd is a very easy going and hard working individual that really does try to make everyone happy! I wouldn't support a vendor if I didn't respect him for his ethics as well as his products! His moral compass is just right and his products are top notch :D

He also gives away quite a bit of products on a regular basis so I know that he's not in it for the money (and most the time the contest are done quick so it's not like he attempts to drum up tons of business with the give aways).... In fact he doesn't even make a great deal of money on many of the products he offers!
 
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I didn't know Todd from a hole in the wall. All I knew is I traded a GGTB for a new Woodie, the thing came in looking like it was painted by a drunken monkey, I ask the trader what happened and he blamed Todd. It turns out Todd cut the guy a break because he said he would refinish it. He never did or if he did, he applied the poly with his hairy ..., it looked like crap and then he blamed Todd. I accept responsibility for flipping out on Todd, yet Todd was kind enough to follow me as a cc on more than a dozen emails with this lying creep until Todd dug up the emails that proved this guy to be a thief and a lier

These type of things happen but you really should have waited for Todd to reply before you took any further actions.... Just saying :2c:

Todd is a very easy going and hard working individual that really does try to make everyone happy! I wouldn't support a vendor if I didn't respect him for his ethics as well as his products! His moral compass is just right and his products are top notch :D

He also gives away quite a bit of products on a regular basis so I know that he's not in it for the money (and most the time the contest are done quick so it's not like he attempts to drum up tons of business with the give aways).... In fact he doesn't even make a great deal of money on many of the products he offers!
 

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I didn't know Todd from a hole in the wall. All I knew is I traded a GGTB for a new Woodie, the thing came in looking like it was painted by a drunken monkey, I ask the trader what happened and he blamed Todd. It turns out Todd cut the guy a break because he said he would refinish it. He never did or if he did, he applied the poly with his hairy ..., it looked like crap and then he blamed Todd. I accept responsibility for flipping out on Todd, yet Todd was kind enough to follow me as a cc on more than a dozen emails with this lying creep until Todd dug up the emails that proved this guy to be a thief and a lier

These type of things happen but you really should have waited for Todd to reply before you took any further actions.... Just saying :2c:

Todd is a very easy going and hard working individual that really does try to make everyone happy! I wouldn't support a vendor if I didn't respect him for his ethics as well as his products! His moral compass is just right and his products are top notch :D

He also gives away quite a bit of products on a regular basis so I know that he's not in it for the money (and most the time the contest are done quick so it's not like he attempts to drum up tons of business with the give aways).... In fact he doesn't even make a great deal of money on many of the products he offers!
 

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I didn't know Todd from a hole in the wall. All I knew is I traded a GGTB for a new Woodie, the thing came in looking like it was painted by a drunken monkey, I ask the trader what happened and he blamed Todd. It turns out Todd cut the guy a break because he said he would refinish it. He never did or if he did, he applied the poly with his hairy ..., it looked like crap and then he blamed Todd. I accept responsibility for flipping out on Todd, yet Todd was kind enough to follow me as a cc on more than a dozen emails with this lying creep until Todd dug up the emails that proved this guy to be a thief and a lier

A GGTB for something your threw away? That does sound pretty bad. But if you want a fantastic wood mod you should get one of the V2 woodies! They are spectacular :)
 

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Torqueguy, I suggest you also contact ECF on this. ECF has been fantastic with the issues of classified sales/trades fraud. Please do let them know ALL about this transaction. It may save one of us from this disgusting action in the future.

Todd, I'm so sorry you had to bear the brunt of this. And Torque, I'm so sorry for you as well to have been treated this way.

That guy will prolly end up in the back of the line someday... if ya know what I mean.




I didn't know Todd from a hole in the wall. All I knew is I traded a GGTB for a new Woodie, the thing came in looking like it was painted by a drunken monkey, I ask the trader what happened and he blamed Todd. It turns out Todd cut the guy a break because he said he would refinish it. He never did or if he did, he applied the poly with his hairy ..., it looked like crap and then he blamed Todd. I accept responsibility for flipping out on Todd, yet Todd was kind enough to follow me as a cc on more than a dozen emails with this lying creep until Todd dug up the emails that proved this guy to be a thief and a lier
 

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Torqueguy, I suggest you also contact ECF on this. ECF has been fantastic with the issues of classified sales/trades fraud. Please do let them know ALL about this transaction. It may save one of us from this disgusting action in the future.

Todd, I'm so sorry you had to bear the brunt of this. And Torque, I'm so sorry for you as well to have been treated this way.

That guy will prolly end up in the back of the line someday... if ya know what I mean.


My darling, Kat! when we gonna go on that date? I got the cheap wine and slim jims :)
 

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Glad to see that all got straightened out really fast for u Todd. When that post popped up I bout flipped!! It's also a rare thing when someone admits they are wrong and then goes about trying to make amends, so kudos to torque for that too! :)

I knew all along there had to be more to the story, no way is there a sub pare butchered woodie from Todd!! :)
 
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