Halo again! Second post from me and a few ideas/qustions..

[Slice]

Hi again fellow vapers!

Been vaping for about a week now and have tried some different vaping-gear to try what works best for me.

- I first bought a Joyetech Ego-C twist 1300 mAh to start with: It have good taste and nice design.. but i thought it was way to long: About 21 cm in total..

- I then bought a shorter set, a Kanger EVOD 650 mAh, but started experiencing some plastic/faul aftertaste in the vapes from this set for some reason. Got disgusted and could not use it anomore..

- I now use an e-juice that is 70% PG and 30% VG..

The questions/ideas

My idea is that it is the battery that is the biggest difference in there two set´s.. or is it also the tank´s, automaizers and claeromizers that make a big differens regardning taste and vapor etc? The Joyetech has a battery with VV and VW, where the Kanger has only 3,7V. Trying the Joyetech battery on the Kanger automaizer tastes way better whan with the original Kanger battery, but still nog tasty enough in my mind..

I have now ordered a Kanger AeroTank V2 and some e-juice with 50% PG and 50% VG in an atempt to get more vapor while vaping and to try to reduce the throut-hit a bit, as it hits me a bit to hard sometimes. Do you think this setup will be better in that fact, or it it only my fiction? My idea is that tha tank´s etc are as much important as the battery it self, to get the vapor and taste that you want.. is that so or am i wrong?

I am still trying to find out what is the best setup for me, spending way to much money doing so.. How much did you spend on juices and gear until you were satisfied with your vaping?

Seems to me that there is no cheap way to get the perfect vape, right?



Regars,

Slice N Dice

 

[DavidOck]

Hi, Slice. Welcome aboard, and you've come to the right place

The Twist is a variable voltage source, allowing you to adjust the power to the coil. The Evod 650 is a fixed voltage source (3.7 V iirc...), so the only way to control the power consumed is by changing the resistance of the coil, i.e. putting into the tank one of a different value, either purchased that way or rebuilt by you. That difference may account for much of the difference in vape between the two systems.

But different tanks do perform differently. First, they don't all come with the same value coil, and with your fixed voltage that will make a difference. There are also differences in coil design and air flow, top or bottom coil placement and, of course, capacity.

So, yes, both are important.

For me, once VV came on the scene, and then VW, I've not gone back to anything fixed voltage. Heck, I even have a Kick module in my mechanicals I like being able to fine tune my vape. Not all flavors "like" the same power, sometimes I just get lazy rebuilding...

There are shorter VV/VW devices that you might want to investigate. The trade-off is, of course, less run time before needing a recharge. But I definitely recommend staying with something variable.

Toppers.... my favorites are my Kayfuns, but rebuilding and all it entails may be best left until you're more comfortable with your vape. Getting into rebuildables too soon, before you know what works well for you, can lead to an unsatisfactory experience. Hard to build to taste until you know what tastes good.

The Aero gets generally good reviews, although I've not tried one. I tend to keep my toppers of that sort all using the Kanger style single bottom coils, which I rebuild. In that area, the Kanger PT2 (with the Aero base for air flow control), the Davide and their respective "mini" models all perform well for me, as do the Kanger T3S, also a single bottom coil model. (The T3D is dual bottom coil, btw.)

How much $$.... Hard to say, but less than cigs, over time, and definitely less than chemo!

And hardware costs do get pro-rated. I got my first tube mod on my first vapeversary, and it's still going strong, so it's cost, over time, are pretty small. And you DO need backups, so as long as it works, it's not wasted

 

[jeffreyace]

Vv and vw csn change how much juice is vaped, which means more or less flavor and clouds. Pg has flavor and vg is clouds for the most part. Regarding your gear I have no idea, as I went straight for a box mod so I djdnt have to buy 10 devices until I found one that worked for me. Juice is a different story. Alamo every vaper has spent costless dollars finding their flavors they enjoy.

 

[mediocre toker]

It wouldn't be the battery that causes the plastic taste that you are experiencing.
It will be the wick you can taste.
Try doing a dry burn the next time you change you coil and wait until the smoke clears from your atomizer.
Just unscrew your tank and take off the drip tip and glass then screw it back onto your battery and press the fire button for a few secs. You should see some smoke coming up the chimney of the protank. Gently blow the smoke away and keep firing that button until you can no longer see the smoke. Then fill up with juice and away you go. No more foul taste.
On the subject of Taste:
This is personal to you.
remember more pg more throat hit, more vg more vapor.
I go for a 60/40 mix in favour of VG but everyone is different.
I also dilute ready-made juices by about 1/3 by adding some VG/PG but again everyone is different. If you are going to do this to ready made juice remember to order higher nic content to counter the diluting.
use this software to help you get the right taste for yourself. Its free to download
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

 

[DavidOck]

It's possible, too, that the "plastiky" taste is a reaction of your flavor to the material of the topper. Some flavors are "tank crackers", and don't play well with poly tanks. If, after a thorough cleaning the tank looks frosted and was originally clear, that's probably what's going on. And why many now use Pyrex toppers.

 

[Slice]

Helo!

Thanks for all the replys..

So, does the AeroTank V2 have a "Pyrex Topper"?

All this are new terms to me.. as im just taking chanses in gear right now to get something that keeps me off the stinkers.

Will get the AeroTank and the new 50% / 50% juice on wednesday.. so i have enormeus high hopes right now.
Because i know that if the plasticy taste remain i will have to go back to "what i do not want"..

Any suggestions what the next upgrade would be if my new setup still wont do it.. Stronger battery (more VW?)?

Then offcourse, its alla bout trying to find the right juice. I used to smoke menthols before, so i went with that now also in the vaping.
Any rekommendations in tastes that i might have missed out?



Regards,

Slice N Dice

 

[DavidOck]

I think the Aero is pyrex, so that would eliminate any issues with cracking from the juice.

Hah, flavors!

We all have different tastes, but one important thing to consider - try flavors that are NOT tobacco. We mostly all come from a smoking life-style, and figure that a tobacco / menthol is what we're used to, so go that way with flavors. But you might be very pleasantly surprised by the experience of things radically different.

Personally, I do still vape some tobacco-ish ones, but also things like key lime pie, apple, vanilla, and so on. Changing up flavors is a fun way to keep vaping fresh

 

[Sarin]

Yes the aerotank is pyrex and it is normally the nicotine that gives the throat hit rather than the base carrier, although reducing the PG ratio will help some.