Halo Throat Hit

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I would really be surprised if Halo uses anything besides a higher than usual PG/VG ratio to achieve their throat hit. Period. It's not rocket science. It's just several common ingredients mixed with flavorings. Accusing them of using ingredients that are purposely bad for us is completely ridiculous. I'm sure they are well prepared, probably more so than anyone, for future FDA regulations and probably already have a detailed list of ingredients at the ready if big brother demands them. It cracks me up when people take cheap conspiratory shots at the largest producers with state of the art production facilities. Usually the same people who rave about some juice they just bought at a B&M that was mixed up in the sink the day before..

I do find it amusing and a bit sad. Just looking at a Halo bottle, I would bet they won't have to change anything for their label to be FDA approved. Halo has been focused on providing the purest, safest e-juice on the market from the beginning- kind of like ProVari with their focus on safety and quality.My guess is Halo uses the purest PG, VG and nicotine on the market, as well as ingredients, which is why they are able to make a superior juice with a great throat hit. I can see how some accustomed to watered down juice may be surprised when they first vape Halo...
Every Halo flavor has a different PG/VG ratio, which is why their juices are so hard for the DIY crowd to copy. Maybe it is just angry DIY folk who want to know every ingredient and ratio...
 

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But mean while he posts the following in the Ahlusion thread:

Thank you, my taste buds are shot. So that is the secret ingredient I couldn't put my finger on LOL. That also explains the nice throat hit. Just ordered 120ml of Shipreck. ( 2 - 60ml bottles lol )

I gather that beautifully mysterious throat hit ain't as bothersome as he insist in this thread. He and I have a lot in common; I'm also a man of contradiction.

Nuff said...

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Skeebo, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands to dig through my posts. No contradiction what so ever fellow poster. I simply couldn't place my fingers on the taste of shipwreck and a fellow Ahlusion's poster helped me find it. The throat hit as I noted was "nice" not off the charts like Halo. But hey, you want to compare Ahlusion's disclosure to Halo's please go right ahead. I can ask the owner questions and I receive answers, what exactly do you receive from Halo? Nothing, secrets that's it.

One thing I truly can't comprehend is the support of an Ejuice company that hides it's PG/VG ratio. I can't understand why anyone would support a company that if asked about a certain ingredient they won't confirm or deny it. All this BLIND support for what? For a good throat hit and taste?

Shouldn't we as a vape community who left the harmful effects of cigarettes have better knowledge of what goes into the juice that we inhale?

It's truly is a shame that some will support taste over knowledge. I do believe Halo is a good company managed and run properly in a great lab environment. I never questioned that nor deny that. But their willingness not answer questions about certain ingredients when questioned is what makes me not support their product. Also for the record, it is not just Halo, take vaping watche's line of ejuce ex Pluid, or next level vaping, etc.... they don't disclose any information either. I do not support them either.

Please, don't get mad at me for seeking knowledge from a company, rather question yourselves, is it worth supporting companies blindly?

Good luck to all of you, wish you the best. Agree or not, we are all on here for the same reason, to get away from cigarettes.

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I don't care what PG/VG ratio a juice has. The vendors I buy from, I trust to make the best combination, because that is the business they are in... I don't go to a restaurant and tell the chef how to prepare the meal...

Many people do care what the PG/VG ratio is, do they not have a right to know what they inhale?

If you are allergic to a certain type of food or seasoning, wouldn't you question the chef if he is going to use it?

wow, I am truly baffled at your blindness.

Post what you want man, I am done trying to reason with you.
 

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New2vaps,

I didn't have to dig very far, that showed up on your first page. And to be straightforward with you, as a new guy to all this I wanted to see what kind of juice you bought, because I am shopping around with a whole slew of vendors--not just Halo. When I chanced upon the little diddy above I just thought it needed to be brought forth in your argument about having to know all the ingredients in a vendors juice.

You know, since proprietary reasons are all hogwash to you.

I notice your time seems to be just as free as mine. Perhaps, we have even more in common than we both realize.

Cheers!

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Many people do care what the PG/VG ratio is, do they not have a right to know what they inhale?

If you are allergic to a certain type of food or seasoning, wouldn't you question the chef if he is going to use it?

wow, I am truly baffled at your blindness.

Post what you want man, I am done trying to reason with you.

I have to say, while I will fully admit to being a Halo fanboy, I do agree with you on this point. If someone is allergic to say, PG, they basically cannot safely purchase and try Halo juice because the ratio isn't published, and that's a bummer. So I've got to agree with you.

With that said, with the number of happy customers they've had I highly doubt they use any secret devious dangerous ingredients in their juice. And I'm going to continue buying the crap out of it. But I can't lie, I agree with your point about the ratio.

Anyway, kudos for trying to reel this in a little and not let this thread become an argument (though I'm a little skeptical it'll work). Everyone just buy whatever you like personally, and vape on!
 

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Many people do care what the PG/VG ratio is, do they not have a right to know what they inhale?

If you are allergic to a certain type of food or seasoning, wouldn't you question the chef if he is going to use it?

wow, I am truly baffled at your blindness.

Post what you want man, I am done trying to reason with you.

If they have such allergies, they shouldn't buy Halo e-juice then... Odd thing is, many with PG allergies have not had any issues with Halo e-liquid...
I am not allergic to anything...
 

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Skeebo,

Too bad you didn't dig a little more instead of trying to find ammo for your arguments. Take a look at the response I received when I questioned NicoTicket about if he had any dangerous ingredients in his ejuice before I bought one to try out.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...have-questions-about-h1n1-before-i-order.html

Now that is what a vendor should respond like.

New2vaps,

You're right, that would be a good thing if all vendors were like that. If there could theoretically be no "trade secrets" that would give one company that business edge in an industry. With that said, I see your point though. It seems to be a matter of principle for you more so than a company hiding something that could be harmful, however, harm reduction is definitely the major goal.

I guess we can all thank big tobacco for some of this mindset.

While I have to admit that I'll still continue doing business with Halo, your stance has definitely become a thought provoking issue that I may instill in future decisions with liquid manufacturers. You have definitely caused me to become a fan of Nicoticket; I already had my eye on H1N1 for that next order.

Skeebo
 
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If they have such allergies, they shouldn't buy Halo e-juice then... Odd thing is, many with PG allergies have not had any issues with Halo e-liquid...I am not allergic to anything...

Halo was the first juice we bought when the two of us decided to quit smoking. It tore up both of our throats, mine got especially bad, it took about two weeks for us as new vapers to figure out what the heck was going on. Being completely clueless as a new vaper I just assumed it was a 50/50 blend like a lot of stuff. It wasn't till I started cutting back some Kzoo juice with VG that I figured out what was happening to us. In the process I went to my local B&M, got the worst vaping advice ever, and wound up with a bottle of his juice which just continued the hacking. If it wasn't for the Velvet Cloud thread here we probably would have wound up smoking again. We stick to 90-100% VG now and that has solved our problem. I don't know how typical that is for Halo but it's what happened to us.
 

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New2vaps,

You're right, that would be a good thing if all vendors were like that. If there could theoretically be no "trade secrets" that would give one company that business edge in an industry. With that said, I see your point though. It seems to be a matter of principle for you more so than a company hiding something that could be harmful, however, harm reduction is definitely the major goal.

I guess we can all thank big tobacco for some of this mindset.

While I have to admit that I'll still continue doing business with Halo, your stance has definitely become a thought provoking issue that I may instill in future decisions with liquid manufacturers. You have definitely caused me to become a fan of Nicoticket; I already had my eye on H1N1 for that next order.

Skeebo

That is correct Skeebo, it was more principle. By the way, you should try a sample of SHIPWRECK from Ahlusion. That is currently my all day vape. It is tobacco, coconut, and lime.
 
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