Could you please show me ONE study that justifies your speculation (replacing one lung irritant chemical for another) being a better idea to be true
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Could you please show me ONE study that justifies your speculation (replacing one lung irritant chemical for another) being a better idea to be true
irritant
noun
a substance that causes slight inflammation or other discomfort to the body.
cytotoxin
noun
a substance that is toxic to living cells
noun
a substance that causes slight inflammation or other discomfort to the body.
cytotoxin
noun
a substance that is toxic to living cells
That is my policy as well, and my desire to user flavorless more or less often fluctuates through the course of this thread.
What would be an example of an ingredient in eLiquid that is considered by anyone to be associated with zero problems?
I would think all ingredients in eLiquid (like all other substances on the planet) are going to be found to be associated with problems, or ill-health to at least some humans.
So, welcome back to the avoid vaping stance, if your concern is truly at that level.
No scare tactics. Independent lab testing of 51 flavors of e-cigarette products. That's science.
More than 75% of e-cigarettes tested contain the chemical linked to 'popcorn lung'
I am taking this seriously, and have stopped purchasing the products named in this test that were found to have Diacetyl.
Bronchiolitis Obliterates is a very painful way to go, and once diagnosed, it's too late to reverse.
Just make sure the e-juices you buy are Diaceytl and Diketone-free formulas. If the vendor won't say, they are probably hiding something. I asked my vendor directly if their products contained these items, and the customer service rep gave me a script that sounds like it was written by their legal department. I won't say who this was, but it made me feel very blue, if you know what I mean.
Forewarned is forearmed.
More than 75% of e-cigarettes tested contain the chemical linked to 'popcorn lung'
I am taking this seriously, and have stopped purchasing the products named in this test that were found to have Diacetyl.
Bronchiolitis Obliterates is a very painful way to go, and once diagnosed, it's too late to reverse.
Just make sure the e-juices you buy are Diaceytl and Diketone-free formulas. If the vendor won't say, they are probably hiding something. I asked my vendor directly if their products contained these items, and the customer service rep gave me a script that sounds like it was written by their legal department. I won't say who this was, but it made me feel very blue, if you know what I mean.
Forewarned is forearmed.
See, Targeted Science at work.
Manufacturer practices, not Flavor!
Many flavors thought to have such included in their making are in fact NOT!
Many E-liquid Manufacturers are already using Safer substitute Chemicals in production.
I personally make several Safer Creamy flavored - e-liquids for personal use.
These discussion threads are Jacked up with non stop <Do/Don't> with no in between.
The Targeted Science is even worse and everyone is playing right into it.
While we are all Debating(arguing) Da/Ap dangers.................They are using Da/Ap to Target the Dangers of E-Cigs as a WHOLE!!!
Please continue to Support their Findings!!!
Fully your right to not want to ingest Da/Ap, can't argue that. But if you read back through the early stages of this thread, you'll see that there was a general debunking of this study since it merely looked for the presence of diacetyl and related compounds, listed only the proposed exposure limits for these compounds, did not give contrasting relational figures for the values of those compounds that are also found (at much higher levels!) in cigarette smoke, had an in-built bias of their selection of flavors to test based on "appeal" to children and teenagers, and mainly used cigalikes and disposable cartomizers. But hey, what do the facts have to do with anything?
Imo this "study" was a complete joke, and a waste of time and money. It added absolutely nothing to our understanding of the issue. All it did was to confirm what most everyone in the industry already knew ; " there is very little diketones in cig-a-likes " . If they had a pre-determined agenda to ring alarm bells about high levels of diketones, they were completely inept in their e-liquid selection, which leads me to believe that their main agenda was to go after big tobacco, and they were likely shocked that the level of diketones were so low in these liquids. What is really shocking though, is that they reached their pre-determined conclusion anyway, even though there was a complete disconnect with the actual results of the study.
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Meanwhile the truth about healthy food is so obscured you think your parallels and conclusion in that post made sense.
Then again... so do most people.
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You're hauling bugs now?
Oh, wait. You meant Big Rig, as in 18-wheeler. Yep, consistently ranked in the top 10 most dangerous professions.
Tell ya what, I won't walk on the interstate if you don't drive on the sidewalk.
You're hauling bugs now?
Oh, wait. You meant Big Rig, as in 18-wheeler. Yep, consistently ranked in the top 10 most dangerous professions.
Tell ya what, I won't walk on the interstate if you don't drive on the sidewalk.
OMG..............and I just Noticed he is in MD, I'm in western(middle) MD. and your is S.E. PA. ................We are in serious Poo...........
You're hauling bugs now?
Well... probably...
I do work for a bed buggin' company.
I will give your compromise great consideration. No promises though.
Tapatyped
Sorry. "People obsess over hazards and risks and trying to insulate themselves, then get run over by a bug rig driven by @beckdg."
Look out for beckdg: he drives one of these:
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