HC instrumental in Glaxo Smith Kline development of New NRT

[BobAgainstApples]

And just what sort of fear are they instilling in you?

I have already stated my case. They will seek regulation to limit competition. They will use their association in their marketing to discredit non-members. Don't take it as a slam against ECTA specifically, it is against the notion that a trade association will effect change in the interest of their customers which is what my rant was about. If we want to get into a debate about ECTA we should probably take it to the vendor forum and let vapers themselves debate the merits of trade associations in public forums.

 

[Lilkurty]

While this court case had to do with vitamin supplement it is quite interesting in it's similarities to our plight.

[15] In the meantime, Canadian citizens took to smuggling the supplement into Canada for their own health or for the health of family members. Fearing for the health, safety and well- being of their participants in the Truehope support program, the Defendants continued to take orders for the supplement, transmit the orders to their manufacturer in the United States, and distribute the supplement in Canada. The Defendants continued to operate the Truehope program which was vital to the safe and effective use of the supplement. This conduct by the Defendants was contrary to the direction from Health Canada that, since Health Canada had determined that the supplement was a drug, it was not to be sold without a D.I.N.


http://www.truehope.com/about/court2.aspx

 

[BobAgainstApples]

Hey, thanks for the link. It was refreshing to see the good guys won. We can win this!

 

[cactusgirl]

While this court case had to do with vitamin supplement it is quite interesting in it's similarities to our plight.

[15] In the meantime, Canadian citizens took to smuggling the supplement into Canada for their own health or for the health of family members. Fearing for the health, safety and well- being of their participants in the Truehope support program, the Defendants continued to take orders for the supplement, transmit the orders to their manufacturer in the United States, and distribute the supplement in Canada. The Defendants continued to operate the Truehope program which was vital to the safe and effective use of the supplement. This conduct by the Defendants was contrary to the direction from Health Canada that, since Health Canada had determined that the supplement was a drug, it was not to be sold without a D.I.N.


http://www.truehope.com/about/court2.aspx

Haha, I especially liked the following quote from the judgement with regard to Truehope continuing to manufacture and distribute their product despite not obtaining a D.I.N. as per HC:

‘…the Defendants were under a duty or duties described in [Section] 216 and 217 of the Criminal Code of Canada to continue to provide the vitamin/mineral micronutrient treatment and to maintain the support program or possibly face the consequences of being charged with criminal negligence.’

Our vendors could certainly make the same argument.

 

[Hello World]

While this court case had to do with vitamin supplement it is quite interesting in it's similarities to our plight.

[15] In the meantime, Canadian citizens took to smuggling the supplement into Canada for their own health or for the health of family members. Fearing for the health, safety and well- being of their participants in the Truehope support program, the Defendants continued to take orders for the supplement, transmit the orders to their manufacturer in the United States, and distribute the supplement in Canada. The Defendants continued to operate the Truehope program which was vital to the safe and effective use of the supplement. This conduct by the Defendants was contrary to the direction from Health Canada that, since Health Canada had determined that the supplement was a drug, it was not to be sold without a D.I.N.


http://www.truehope.com/about/court2.aspx

Yup, they'll let anybody die over D.I.N numbers ... cold, unthinking, where rules and regulations supersede compassion and common sense. They do not see, do not evaluate circumstances based on the greater good.

Can e-liquid vendors follow that path, or use any portion of that ruling to base a legal argument on? Best answered by lawyers who live & breathe this type of law, and the vendors are free to hire them. Gougingly overpriced juice vendors is the reason I got into buying stuff from the US and Asia in the first place, so I'm not sure if I even care to assist them, but that is also changing now as many have been coming off their high horses as well as new ones starting up. Kinda hard going to bat for anyone wanting $10 for a 10ml bottle of juice for at least 3x the profit BT makes. Secondly, approval = regulations = more taxes ... and I like the way things are right now.

Always happy to give fence-climbing folks a hand when best for all concerned ... lol

Consumer demand I feel reasonably sure will be at some stage the tipping point, and that means keeping the prices reasonable and the usually excessive taxes out of the picture.