Headaches from PG based E-liquid?

[Urge]

I have started getting headaches in the last week or so and I'm not sure what to attribute them to(E-cigs or something else). I found E-cigs 3-4 months after quitting analogs(cold turkey-a pack a day or more smoker for 50+ years) and I love them! I use PG based E liquids and today I will be ordering some VG based to try. Are there other liquid bases besides these two? Is there a difference in purity of either one of these bases (PG or VG) among the various suppliers? I have been using 24ml juice cause I am very fond of nicotine. I mostly vape the tobacco flavors-RY4 and desert ship from Cigeasy. I would welcome recommendations for VG based E liquid suppliers. On a side note, what are snus? I read a little of the health-safety-e-smoking forum list of symptoms thread but it goes on for over 100 pages. It's tough to get thru all the info on this forum, I have spent hours reading here and have probably only scratched the surface. How many books would this forum fill?

Thanks for lookin'
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[BardicDruid]

You may want to drop the nic level to about 12mg since you've been off analogs that long, too much will give you a headache.

 

[dormouse]

headache almost always = nicotine

Some other possible causes - dehydration (vaping can be drying), chewing on the ecig, muscle strain from using auto batteries

But when I get a headache it is from vaping too much and too much nicotine builds up. Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor and messes with your blood pressure. It is possible that vapor from 100% PG liquids may be absorbed faster since it seems to let through nicotine's TH and irritation better so maybe the nicotine contacts the skin better. You could try a blend like 70PG/30VG (or for cartos I would use 80PG/20VG for good carto life). Or get some lower nicotine juice for when you are vaping a lot, or just have more self control (I have little, so I leave my ecigs in another room so I have to get up and go vape)

 

[WomanOfHeart]

I have to agree with Bardic about dropping the nic level. You may not need that high of a nicotine strength, especially since you haven't smoked in months before taking up vaping.

There are other bases you can use for nicquid; PGA (Pure Grain Alcohol) PEG400 and plain old water in addition to VG, but PG and VG are the main bases. Most people use a combination of those two and the percentages vary depending on what the person likes and the hardware they're using. I use a 60PG/40VG or a 50/50 mix. I like the thick vapor these two mixes provide and the sweetness of the VG.

 

[swedishfish]

I had headaches the first few days vaping. I vape 24 and still do. Maybe it's unrelated to vaping since it's been almost 3 months. I'd see a doctor. It's not a fabulous idea to try to get medical advice on the internet.

 

[martyrex]

But have you been using 24mg of nic since you've quit smoking? I agree with everything said about dropping the nic level, but is also a little bit strange that it only happened now.. Have you started using a new liquid/ or supplier?

Regarding the liquid bases, I generally use, only PG or 70PV/30Vg in tobacco flavours and when I'm using fruity or a sweeter flavour I raise the VG level..

Hope you get better

 

[swedishfish]

You could try to reduce the nicotine or try some VG in your juice. But I assume you're in your late 60's? I don't want to be an alarmist, but you should bring this to your doctors attention. I'm dealing with a health issue right now with my mom and she had minor symptoms ages ago of something she overlooked. Try the other stuff but see a doctor.

 

[dormouse]

I got my nicotine down to 4mg. 10-12mg is a very nice level, still has decent TH, especially with some juices. I won't hurt to try some 10-12mg.

I hate nic headaches. I would get some of the other symptoms too like cold fingertips and rapid or irregular heartbeat. I dropped my nic a step at a time and that made it easier to vape as much as I wanted at times and not get over-nicced symptoms.

 

[Urge]

headache almost always = nicotine

I did read in the health-safety-e-smoking forum that people got headaches from mostly PG but also VG based E liquid.

Some other possible causes - dehydration (vaping can be drying), chewing on the ecig, muscle strain from using auto batteries

I do drink a lot of coffee so dehydration is a possibility. I don't chew on my E-cig. I use a GOGO Pro which has a manual battery.
I don't know the correlation between nicotine absorption by the body with analogs and Ecigs? How many analog cigs equal a 3ml Go Cart? I could go out today and buy a pack of camels and smoke the whole pack today and not get a headache(been there-done that).

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[Urge]

I went to see the doctor this morning. My blood pressure was normal and I was vaping on the drive over. I didn't start with E-cigs until 2-3 weeks ago.

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[swedishfish]

I went to see the doctor this morning. My blood pressure was normal and I was vaping on the drive over. I didn't start with E-cigs until 2-3 weeks ago.

Urge

I'm glad to hear it! I never had any symptoms people speak about. I know I was getting more nicotine smoking (and a bunch of other stuff) than vaping. Like I said, I had headaches when I first started but I'm sure it was withdraw. When I did lower nicotine I vaped more and I think the flavorings made me feel sick to my stomach.

Give it a shot. Order a juice with a pg/vg mix and reduce the nic level and see how you feel. It won't hurt.

 

[swedishfish]

Here's someone that posted their blood test results and nic was very low.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...3-blood-test-lab-results-nicotine-levels.html

 

[Urge]

There are other bases you can use for nicquid; PGA (Pure Grain Alcohol) PEG400 and plain old water in addition to VG

Which suppliers use PGA or PEG400? What is PEG400? Does anyone sell juices mixed with "plain old water"?

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[dbw]

You may want to drop the nic level to about 12mg since you've been off analogs that long, too much will give you a headache.

I bet that's why I've had headaches from the e-cigs.
I quit smoking real cigs about 1.3 years ago, then recently vaped with 16mg in the kr808 e cig starter kit.

 

[rj1]

I would try a 50/50 pg/vg mix also and see if that helps your headaches and maybe drop your nic level down a bit. Hope this helps!