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Do you have asthma?

I have asthma, and although *at first* it seemed to get better (right after quitting smoking), after I'd been vaping for some months, I started to get more breathless than usual. I was fine for many years, just having a rescue inhaler, but now I'm on Advair too, and it helps a great deal.

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I had smoked for approximately 7 years at a pack a day. Caped for approximately a year thereafter. Now I am experiencing severe shortness of breath that has persisted even after quitting. Anyone else have similar issues? Have seen doctors and will elaborate once I'm approved to post in health forum.

Do you vape custard flavors or high VG?
 

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Haha sorry, sent from my phone and it must have auto-corrected. On a computer now.

Yea, I am still in the process of getting it looked at, but I seem to be running into a few problems on the internet.
1) As soon as you mention health problems due to vaping, people shame and slander you as if you are absolutely insane.
2) there is almost absolutely no definitive research on the subject.
3) There seems to be a lot of misinformation in the electronic cigarette community.

I am in the medical field, although no doctor by any means, but I do want to research this subject more to either educate consumers or educate manufacturers to make the product safer.

Although, maybe it is unrelated.... But it has a STRONG correlation.
 

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Try vaping, not caping. Just kidding. I know this is serious issue. I hope the medical people of which you speak can help you. Good luck! Keep us posted on your situation.

Never diagnosed with asthma. I am looking into that as a possibility. Developing asthma due to environmental factors or allergens is not entirely unheard of.
 
Haha sorry, sent from my phone and it must have auto-corrected. On a computer now.

Yea, I am still in the process of getting it looked at, but I seem to be running into a few problems on the internet.
1) As soon as you mention health problems due to vaping, people shame and slander you as if you are absolutely insane.
2) there is almost absolutely no definitive research on the subject.
3) There seems to be a lot of misinformation in the electronic cigarette community.

I am in the medical field, although no doctor by any means, but I do want to research this subject more to either educate consumers or educate manufacturers to make the product safer.

Although, maybe it is unrelated.... But it has a STRONG correlation.

What juice are you vaping? What's your PG/VG ratio? And on what set up?

It could help to narrow things down a bit.
 

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Never diagnosed with asthma. I am looking into that as a possibility. Developing asthma due to environmental factors or allergens is not entirely unheard of.

True, but there's nearly always also a genetic component -- I developed adult onset asthma at the age of 24, after smoking for 10 yrs... and my father suffered asthma as a child, though his followed the usual pattern of disappearing completely once the steroids took over his body at puberty. I'm not sure why mine started acting up after I'd been vaping for awhile, when initially it got better; I have a suspicion it may have something to do with the WTA, since I started vaping that shortly before it got worse. But I figure even if that's true, going off the WTA would be stupid, with the cravings I suffered; going back to smoking certainly wouldn't help the asthma. I'm gradually eliminating the WTA, 1 percentage point a month, and maybe when I'm done with it, the asthma will ease.

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What juice are you vaping? What's your PG/VG ratio? And on what set up?

It could help to narrow things down a bit.

Was using a multitude of different juices and setups. A few of my favorites were Suicide Bunny (until the diacetyl issue) and cosmic fog. I was vaping off an IPV 2.5 then an IPV 3 with Kanger Sub tanks or RDA's of various sorts. Normally building single parallel coils at about 7wrap with 22-26g wire.

But for the longest time it was an iTaste VTR with a Kanger Aerotank on it. I believe that may have been when it started, but its has persisted to this day (Around 7 months later).
 

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True, but there's nearly always also a genetic component -- I developed adult onset asthma at the age of 24, after smoking for 10 yrs... and my father suffered asthma as a child, though his followed the usual pattern of disappearing completely once the steroids took over his body at puberty. I'm not sure why mine started acting up after I'd been vaping for awhile, when initially it got better; I have a suspicion it may have something to do with the WTA, since I started vaping that shortly before it got worse. But I figure even if that's true, going off the WTA would be stupid, with the cravings I suffered; going back to smoking certainly wouldn't help the asthma. I'm gradually eliminating the WTA, 1 percentage point a month, and maybe when I'm done with it, the asthma will ease.

Andria

They do say that smoking tends to mask asthma to an extent. This may be your case. Many people quit analogs to find that they "suddenly" have asthma that they have had for years. Mine is slightly different. No direct wheeze. Only inability to take a full satisfying breath and often dyspnea upon exertion.
 

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They do say that smoking tends to mask asthma to an extent. This may be your case. Many people quit analogs to find that they "suddenly" have asthma that they have had for years. Mine is slightly different. No direct wheeze. Only inability to take a full satisfying breath and often dyspnea upon exertion.

That may be part of it; for a while after I quit smoking, it seemed like every last smell set me off, my airways were like hyper-sensitive. I've heard that BT adds some kind of topical anesthetic to make the smoke "smooth," and when that stuff first wears off, EVERYTHING is irritating. But I think it may also have to do with the fact that until now, I never was a non-smoking asthmatic; over the years my asthma and my smoking learned to co-exist with greater or lesser comfort, but quitting smoking upset the whole balance, a very delicate homeostasis. So it may take a while for my lungs to settle down and return to something like calmness. At least the Advair helps a great deal. :thumb:

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That may be part of it; for a while after I quit smoking, it seemed like every last smell set me off, my airways were like hyper-sensitive. I've heard that BT adds some kind of topical anesthetic to make the smoke "smooth," and when that stuff first wears off, EVERYTHING is irritating. But I think it may also have to do with the fact that until now, I never was a non-smoking asthmatic; over the years my asthma and my smoking learned to co-exist with greater or lesser comfort, but quitting smoking upset the whole balance, a very delicate homeostasis. So it may take a while for my lungs to settle down and return to something like calmness. At least the Advair helps a great deal. :thumb:

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I am also on advair and it helps a lot, and I am also having a problem with smells. If I come home while my girlfriend is cooking, I need to move either outside or to the other end of the house. I absolutely can NOT breathe with heavy smells like bacon or oils. Im hoping its sub-acute asthma. That would be the easiest to manage and treat. I have just been doing a little research on long term inflammation and the formulation of granulomas, scar tissue, chemical irritations, and the like. There must be some sort of causation. I do know my submandibular lymph nodes are swollen on the right side, and I am having a pain on the right side of my chest, midclavicular, around 3rd or 4th intercostal. Wondering if its directly related to a bronchial irritation or maybe more swollen lymph nodes. Also occasionally feel a burning in my chest even at rest. Would probably rate it a 2-3/10 so its very minor, but connected, none-the-less.
 

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And as a side note, I have taken 1 round of Augmentin and 2 rounds of Z-Max. First round of Z-max helped temporarily, and now the 2nd round doesnt seem to be doing much. I was really hoping it was atypical pneumonia unrelated to vaping but that doesnt seem to be the case, unless it just so happens to be drug resistant... Which wouldnt be surprising really, I work in Ambulances and Hospitals all day.
 

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I am also on advair and it helps a lot, and I am also having a problem with smells. If I come home while my girlfriend is cooking, I need to move either outside or to the other end of the house. I absolutely can NOT breathe with heavy smells like bacon or oils. Im hoping its sub-acute asthma. That would be the easiest to manage and treat. I have just been doing a little research on long term inflammation and the formulation of granulomas, scar tissue, chemical irritations, and the like. There must be some sort of causation. I do know my submandibular lymph nodes are swollen on the right side, and I am having a pain on the right side of my chest, midclavicular, around 3rd or 4th intercostal. Wondering if its directly related to a bronchial irritation or maybe more swollen lymph nodes. Also occasionally feel a burning in my chest even at rest. Would probably rate it a 2-3/10 so its very minor, but connected, none-the-less.

With those swollen glands, it sounds perilously like it could be a bronchial infection; you really should see a doc. If that's true, then it may have nothing to do with vaping, but vaping might be irritating it.

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