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[Fussellini70713]

Hello everyone,Fussellini here. I am about to purchase my first setup.currently I'm running a simple kanger set.Evod VV 1000mah battery with protank 3 with an airflow.I'm happy with it for a temporary piece,not what I want for the long haul.I'm looking into a Caravela.comes with rda n protank 2 battery n what not.I'm going to get the kanger subtank nano for it.I'm looking for good throat hit n big clouds.I plan on using it a lot,as an alternative to smoking(haven't had an analogue cigarette in 3 days now with the current vape) and as ,well I just want to vape now okay,I like it,I want to learn more and have my own piece that I can eventually learn to build(hence the rda) any thoughts on a caravela? I've seen great reviews for subtank nano n I'm dead set on it.

 

[edyle]

Hello everyone,Fussellini here. I am about to purchase my first setup.currently I'm running a simple kanger set.Evod VV 1000mah battery with protank 3 with an airflow.I'm happy with it for a temporary piece,not what I want for the long haul.I'm looking into a Caravela.comes with RDA n protank 2 battery n what not.I'm going to get the kanger subtank nano for it.I'm looking for good throat hit n big clouds.I plan on using it a lot,as an alternative to smoking(haven't had an analogue cigarette in 3 days now with the current vape) and as ,well I just want to vape now okay,I like it,I want to learn more and have my own piece that I can eventually learn to build(hence the RDA) any thoughts on a caravela? I've seen great reviews for subtank nano n I'm dead set on it.

I've been vaping 2 years. Started with cigalikes; vaped on protanks for a year until I got my hands on rebuildables.
An rda is worth getting.
A mech is also worthwhile for backup purposes, but I wouldn't recommend a mech as a main vape for anybody new.
For anybody new, an istick would be a good startup; a sigelei 100 would be like topoftheline kind of thing.

When you are new, having a screen that shows you volts and ohms is important.

 

[Fussellini70713]

I've been vaping 2 years. Started with cigalikes; vaped on protanks for a year until I got my hands on rebuildables.
An rda is worth getting.
A mech is also worthwhile for backup purposes, but I wouldn't recommend a mech as a main vape for anybody new.
For anybody new, an istick would be a good startup; a sigelei 100 would be like topoftheline kind of thing.

When you are new, having a screen that shows you volts and ohms is important.

Well I live two blocks from an E-cig store,the caravela piece I want to get with subtank,caravela will come with RDA but I won't get into tht quite yet,I'd like to but not quite.and any questions about it when I have the piece the guy at the store is nice enuf to help me put together anything like coils n stuff for buildable

 

[Susan~S]

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

With a mechanical mod the only way to "fine tune" your vape is to build a new coil. With a high vv/vw regulated mod (and its buck/boost circuitry) you can "fine tune" with a push of a button. On a mechanical mod your voltage drops as you vape, with a regulated mod this does not happen. Your first hit is just as good as your last hit.

A high vv/vw mod is a lot more versatile than a mechanical mod (not to mention safer, less upkeep, etc). The beauty of a high vv/vw mod is that you don't have to build low sub-ohm coils to get a great vape. In fact, building low sub-ohm works against you. Higher ohm coils use more wire which means more surface area to vaporize juice. This increases both heat and vapor production.

With a mechanical mod you increase the warmth of your coil by building lower ohm coils. However, the electronics in a regulated mod boosts the power coming from the battery so the ohms of the coil no longer control the warmth.

Here's a good thread on the subject: My thoughts about sub-ohm and latest VV/VW devices...

Also check out State-O-Flux's blog on the "Steam Engine": Steam Engine: From Basic Use to Advanced Features

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If you are new to mech mods and rebuildables I highly recommend you spend some time with Baditude (one of our resident battery experts) and visit his blogs. You are now 100% in control of your own safety (and others around you). Make sure you purchase an ohm reader and a voltmeter or DMM so you can measure your builds, check for shorts and measure the remaining charge on your batteries.

Baditudes Blogs. The blogs that address battery safety, Ohm's Law, CDR (continuous discharge rating/Amps) and how they all work together are detailed below:

BATTERIES

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?
* Another essential read to understand which batteries are safe to use in mechanical and regulated mods. Includes a frequently updated list of recommended safe-chemistry, high-drain batteries with their specifications.

Purple Efest Batteries not as Advertised
* A cautionary blog that reveals that the purple Efest batteries may not have the specifications advertised. Also includes a commentary on "continuous discharge ratings" vs "pulse discharge ratings" of battery specs.

OHM'S LAW

Ohm's Law for Dummies (Vapers)
* My attempt at explaining Ohm's Law in layman terms and how it relates to vaping.

Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations
* As simple as it is to use, some people have a tough time grasping the concept. Warning: Includes graphic photos of mod explosions.

BATTERIES - WHERE TO BUY

Only buy batteries from a reputable supplier (not ebay or Amazon) as there are many counterfeit batteries being sold. Here are several reputable battery suppliers in the US.

* RTD Vapor
* Illumination Supply
* Lighthound
* Orbtronics

 

[Fussellini70713]

Thank u Susan,I really do not know much.appreciate it,!

 

[realsis]

I will say one thing. Mechanical mods are NOT forgiving. I do know what I'm talking about here as I say they WILL run a "short". It has happened to me! In less than 3 seconds the entire mod will be so hot you can't touch it with bare hands. Then decision time comes because it will continue to heat until the batteries vent or it blows. Not a good situation. In my case ( not saying this was the correct way to handle the situation ) but I acted fast. Got a towel and removed the batteries as quickly as I could and threw the whole thing including batteries out side. I wasn't sure if the batteries were going to continue a venting process. But things happen. I happened to have a unrecognized short. If I were running a regulated mod, it would not have ran my short and displayed check atomizer. I do use both types of mods still but I use my regulated more often. I can still sub ohm down to .1 with my regulated and vape up to 150 watts. It's just safer. I ONLY use rebuildable tanks so it's nice to know I have the protection of a regulated device just in case something happens I'm not aware of. I have a whole new respect for mechanical mods but things can and do tend to happen now and again and it's very nice and much safer to be protected I'd something happens your unaware of. The protection of a regulated mod is a great thing to have. I HIGHLY recommend getting a regulated mod until your quite advanced in your vaping journey. This is for your own protection. Trust me, it can be extremely scarey if something goes wrong with. Your mec mod. Get good at building , learn ohms law, know how to work the formulas, know how to check your build. Gain expirence BEFORE you dive into a mechanical. I hope this helps! Best wishes

 

[Susan~S]

Thank u Susan,I really do not know much.appreciate it,!

It doesn't hurt to educate yourself before buying a new devise. Vape shops don't always know this stuff and don't have the time to explain it fully.

You might consider the Mini Subtank (and not the Nano). The mini is 22mm in diameter (standard size for a mod using 18650 batteries), holds more juice, and it comes with a rebuildable base. You could learn to build using this tank. You also can use the stock coils. I have the Mini Subtank and I really like it (both the coils and the rebuildable base). I use mine on an iStick 50 watt devise.

 

[Fussellini70713]

How about the?
Eleaf iSmoka iStick 50W Box Mod
The website has subtank mini as available with purchase of tht device....and it's an internal battery?

Also....how is the throat hit and cloud production? I want nice good throat hit,not soft,I want noticeable but not choke me rough,and big clouds which reviews for subtank nano say that has.

 

[Susan~S]

How about the?
Eleaf iSmoka iStick 50W Box Mod
The website has subtank mini as available with purchase of tht device....and it's an internal battery?

Yes, that's the one I have. The iStick 50watt is an internal (4400 mAh) battery.

Also....how is the throat hit and cloud production? I want nice good throat hit,not soft,I want noticeable but not choke me rough,and big clouds which reviews for subtank nano say that has.

You will get plenty of throat hit and vapor. When you use the 0.5Ω coil you will need to cut your nic level by ~50%. That's pretty typical when using subΩ coils due to the amount of vapor (i.e. the amount of juice being vaporized).

Here's a review on both of these.

iStick 50 Watt Review
Subtank Mini From Kangertech Review

And here is a review on the Subtank Nano

Subtank Nano From KangerTech Review

 

[Fussellini70713]

Well I think that does it then...I'm going to be buying that with the subtank mini on Saturday..now to find site for good E-juice at a cheap price. Will b roughly 80$+ for istick n subtank mini,so I'll have some spare for juices,since I'm seeing people say they burn thru more juice with tht tank.I appreciate this a lot Susan.I've seen vapes come from the cig looking ones to these absolutely crazy looking pieces,n I was skeptical about the box style.but people around my town like them,n bein New I do believe as someone else posted ,that a variable wattage n volt mod is best

 

[Susan~S]

I think you will be really happy with that setup. You can adust the airflow down if you are a mouth-to-lung vaper although you will get even more vapor if you can direct to lung inhale.

Don't buy too much juice until you know what nic level you will like for your new setup.

Regarding juice Ahlusion is my go-to vendor for juice although I DIY as well. Peppermint Bark, Lemon Vanilla Cake, Caramel Wild Wood, Caramel Pear Black Tea, Coconut Boba Tea, the list goes on and on! Fan Club here on ECF: Ahlusion E-Juice Part 3.

Here are some other vendor many members recommend for inexpensive juice.

1. ITC Vapes =>Thread on ECF: ITC Vapes
2. Vape Wild =>Thread on ECF: Vape Wild. Yea or Nay?

 

[Fussellini70713]

How does one determine mouth to lung or straight to lung vape? Seems simple enuf but at the moment it is beyond me.sorry for my ignorance of the subject...Also ,about the subtank mini,the coils,how long do yours last? And are they the same for nano? Bcuz the E-cig store down the street from me has the coils for subtank nano and I want to know if I'd end up having to buy online or if they work...I'm looking at ITC juices now ,would b nice to try the ppl on this site that make their own juice

 

[Susan~S]

How does one determine mouth to lung or straight to lung vape? Seems simple enuf but at the moment it is beyond me.

Mouth-to-lung inhaling is probably how you smoked a cigarette. You first draw the vapor into your mouth and then inhale it into your lungs. It's a two step process. When you direct to lung inhale you inhale directly into your lungs. It may not be natural to you at first. In fact, some people don't like doing it. Some people don't like an airy draw.

Also ,about the subtank mini,the coils,how long do yours last? And are they the same for nano?

From what I read they both use the same coils. Check with your vape shop.

How long they last depends on how much juice you go through per/day and the type of juice you are using. Higher VG, dark colored, sweet, complex flavors tend to "gunk" up the coils faster than lower VG, light colored, simple flavors. Most online stores say the coils will last between 10-20 days. I really can't say as usually have 10-15 setups that I vape on everyday. I've been vaping almost 9 years now so I have a lot of different vape setup/products.

 

[Fussellini70713]

That's a lot of setups daily ,wow cool tho,yeah I checked online the coils are the same for both nano n mini. Oh well I'll purchase backup coils anyways,I'm set on the protank,nd since its rebuildable I'll get to tht part soon enuf.thanks for all the help!!

 

[edyle]

How does one determine mouth to lung or straight to lung vape? Seems simple enuf but at the moment it is beyond me.sorry for my ignorance of the subject...Also ,about the subtank mini,the coils,how long do yours last? And are they the same for nano? Bcuz the E-cig store down the street from me has the coils for subtank nano and I want to know if I'd end up having to buy online or if they work...I'm looking at ITC juices now ,would b nice to try the ppl on this site that make their own juice

Start with mouth to lung; if you get a dry hit - (and that is more likely when you are new) - it's not so bad with mouth inhales, but a direct to lung dry hit will make you cough to death.

But to answer the question - airflow: big airflow and big power, allows for direct to lung inhales; a lot of stuff out there don't have enough airflow for direct to lung inhales, so it is more traditional to use mouth to lung with vape gear.

 

[edyle]

Well I think that does it then...I'm going to be buying that with the subtank mini on Saturday..now to find site for good E-juice at a cheap price. Will b roughly 80$+ for istick n subtank mini,so I'll have some spare for juices,since I'm seeing people say they burn thru more juice with tht tank.I appreciate this a lot Susan.I've seen vapes come from the cig looking ones to these absolutely crazy looking pieces,n I was skeptical about the box style.but people around my town like them,n bein New I do believe as someone else posted ,that a variable wattage n volt mod is best

That's a good setup to start with.

 

[nl37tgt]

I order my juice from Mount Baker Vapor. Good prices and I'm happy with the quality. I order the 236ml bottles of their Coumarin Pipe Tobacco flavor as my all day vape. Big bottle, costs around $40, the last one lasted 2 months. They have sample packs and a wide selection of their own juices. Good customer service as well. But there's a ton of juice companies out there along with the house juices in brick and mortars, and more popping up all the time.