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ThunderDan

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Yes your right... I'm a complete ...... I'll let you know if I blow my face off. Its a 3mm clearance that I feel safe with. You have no right calling me out and telling me its not safe. Its just asking for a argument. And your comment about screwing the Atty down just that bit more doesn't even make sense at all. I won't even argue it because its just stupid. And I guess I pound on the top of my batteries with a hammer daily to dent them. Believe me I've shorted a aerotank before and learnt my lesson. The reason I bought the subtank was because the 510 protrudes enough to use with hybrids. The distance is safe. I have adjustable 510 attys and that's all I ever gave it for clearance. So get off my back Mr know it all and go harass someone else.

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Kangertech Subtank Mini 0.5 ohm coil
Brass 4nine FT clone
Purple efest IMR18650 35A 2500MAH
Mt Baker Vapor Max VG
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If you ever feel like not eventually shorting a battery the subtank mini can easily be modified to safely use with a hybrid mech:

http://m.imgur.com/a/XQM3S



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Yes your right... I'm a complete ...... I'll let you know if I blow my face off. Its a 3mm clearance that I feel safe with. You have no right calling me out and telling me its not safe. Its just asking for a argument. And your comment about screwing the Atty down just that bit more doesn't even make sense at all. I won't even argue it because its just stupid. And I guess I pound on the top of my batteries with a hammer daily to dent them. Believe me I've shorted a aerotank before and learnt my lesson. The reason I bought the subtank was because the 510 protrudes enough to use with hybrids. The distance is safe. I have adjustable 510 attys and that's all I ever gave it for clearance. So get off my back Mr know it all and go harass someone else.

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Current set up
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Kangertech Subtank Mini 0.5 ohm coil
Brass 4nine FT clone
Purple efest IMR18650 35A 2500MAH
Mt Baker Vapor Max VG
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If you think you have a 3 mm clearance you do not understand at all how close to a shortout that you are.
You have less than 1mm clearance

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If you ever feel like not eventually shorting a battery the subtank mini can easily be modified to safely use with a hybrid mech:

http://m.imgur.com/a/XQM3S



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You know what? I am going to do that. That's a lot more helpful than just putting me down like the other guy was. This is really neat! Thanks buddy!

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Current set up
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Kangertech Subtank Mini 0.5 ohm coil
Brass 4nine FT clone
Purple efest IMR18650 35A 2500MAH
Mt Baker Vapor Max VG
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You know what? I am going to do that. That's a lot more helpful than just putting me down like the other guy was. This is really neat! Thanks buddy!

Putting you down? I was trying to prevent you from hurting yourself (or those around you), and your responded by calling me an "ediot"! I was looking out for you (though my verbiage was harsh, I agree -- perhaps frustration from having to tell the same thing to so many people in a given day) and you were calling me uneducated and misinformed. Please.

In the end, I don't really care what you do. (Someone was talking about the idea of hyper-Darwinism through vaping, and I kind of like that idea until it means government regulation). I was calling you out because maybe someone (not you) doesn't know that there's a potential issue with hybrid mech mods and carto tanks, and maybe someone (not you) looks at your setup and says, "Hm, let me buy that exact same setup," and maybe you are fine, but Joe Schmoe loses a few fingers because he never saw anyone talking about how you should use caution with the specific setup. I wasn't trying to be a ....., I wasn't trying to start an argument, I was trying to advocate safer use of e-cigarettes. I'm sorry if you felt otherwise, but no offense was intended.

Additionally, you can (if you wish, again, I don't care what you do) go here to put your "current setup" in your signature, rather than having to manually repost it with every post you make (although you may have to format it to one line, not sure).
 

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Handing out advice is one of the greatest things about this forum, but the potential advice or help is completely negated but starting it off with "you're uneducated"towards nyiddle . I can't even read anything you have responded with because clearly you can't see the mistake that happened that could be squashed with a simple "my bad".

Now this has gone beyond helping someone with a vaping issue and turned into a personal matter. I'm sorry skullsdust, I bet you have a ton of experience and help to give but you're in the wrong here.
 
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This is why I vape Regulated mods. No need to worry (too much) about compatible attys and tanks. As long as it has a 510 connection, you're set to go. Not to sound noobish, but I've honestly never even heard of a hybrid setup until now, and I still don't know the Pros/Cons of one. Can anyone enlighten me? Are they more affordable? Less voltage drop? Safer (though I would doubt it after reading posts)?
 

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This is why I vape Regulated mods. No need to worry (too much) about compatible attys and tanks. As long as it has a 510 connection, you're set to go. Not to sound noobish, but I've honestly never even heard of a hybrid setup until now, and I still don't know the Pros/Cons of one. Can anyone enlighten me? Are they more affordable? Less voltage drop? Safer (though I would doubt it after reading posts)?

The problem discussed above was not a hybrid setup, but a hybrid "look" setup.

A true hybrid setup is where the topper has no 510 connector at all, and instead screws into the mod instead of a topcap.
An example is the 3d RDA connected to the nemesis mod; both are threaded m20x0.5

The heron hybrids to m20x1 mods; it may come with an adapter that is supposed to adapt to m21x1 mods but it might be the wrong adapter (I got a female to female adapter with my clone; it should be female to male in order to work).
 
The problem discussed above was not a hybrid setup, but a hybrid "look" setup.

A true hybrid setup is where the topper has no 510 connector at all, and instead screws into the mod instead of a topcap.
An example is the 3d RDA connected to the nemesis mod; both are threaded m20x0.5

The heron hybrids to m20x1 mods; it may come with an adapter that is supposed to adapt to m21x1 mods but it might be the wrong adapter (I got a female to female adapter with my clone; it should be female to male in order to work).

Thanks for the information! I'm still curious about the pros/cons of a hybrid setup, however
 

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Isn't the one piece mod like the Valkyrie and Neptune considered hybrid also? It seems to me they were called that also, at least that's what I've always been told and considered a hybrid...I know they're making other stuff now where there's various threads and the device screws right onto the mod (sans 510 connection).....Just curious...
 

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People have been making the distinction between a "pure hybrid" (like the Valkyrie or the Neptune -- or the Nemesis when you put the 3D on top of it) and "hybrid mods" (like the SMPL, 4nine, et al). A big difference you'll see is that the Neptune and Valkyrie both have atomizers with very long pins, often entirely negating the possibility of a short against the mod, most of the hybrid stand-alone mods (that don't come paired with an atty) don't really have any sort of preventative measures against a short. It's assumed that the user will have the knowledge to naturally prevent against that, but as we've seen multiple times now, that is not the case.

There are definitely simple fixes to manually rectify the issue. I'm of the mindset that it shouldn't have been an issue (manufacturers should have thought of it), but since it's already too late for quality control the only measure that can be taken is explicitly warning people that what they're doing may be dangerous.

Many people are being sold these setups from vape shops, and the employees themselves don't even think twice about it (although with the recent events, that might change).
 

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Isn't the one piece mod like the Valkyrie and Neptune considered hybrid also? It seems to me they were called that also, at least that's what I've always been told and considered a hybrid...I know they're making other stuff now where there's various threads and the device screws right onto the mod (sans 510 connection).....Just curious...

Yes the Valkyrie is an example of a hybrid mod. A lot of those hybrids are genesis type toppers.

I prefer not to mention such mods because I do not know the threading.

The 3d RDA will hybrid to m20x0.5 mods; which mods are m20x0.5 ? Well the nemesis is one of them but I don't know what others there are; (I guess technically the poldiac is too, but it won't fit directly because of the topswitch).


I think the Elm? hybrids to the Tree of Life mod? I don't remember the thread.

Pretty sure there are kayfun hybrid conversion kits for the kayfun3.1
 

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Thanks for the information! I'm still curious about the pros/cons of a hybrid setup, however

A hybrid eliminates the 510 thread interface which is just a pencil thin interface really suited for cigalike sized devices; instead you use 20 to 22mm sized threads.

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3d rda on sale at fasttech for $5
Note the threads.

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3d rda shown with 510 thread adapter.
 

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Ok thanks, I guess I honestly didn't consider anything you could change the tops on a hybrid since with the twist of a head assembly it could go back to a "normal" 510 threaded mod. I guess that would be like a hybrid adaptor. I certainly don't consider anything with native non-changing threads (ie 510) one since that actually negates the original intent.(at least to me) Honestly on the mods with 510 threading and the atomizer just touches the battery, that just seems like a way to cut costs, build up hype, and charge more. Again this is all my opinion and yes I know what they say about them.

Again, thanks.
 
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