Help! I can't stop the atty serial homicide

[JTman]

Okay. I have been loving my Provari for well over a month now. Its been great. Lately, however, I have been destroying all my hardware. I had a string of bad luck with some cheap-o atomizers. I just chalked it up to no-name brand junk. I had 1 of 5 that worked well. Now I got a couple of 901 atties in the mail yesterday. The first one died this morning! I put a couple drops in it and then it just doesnt fire. I check the connection and everything seems fine. I was loving this thing last night. Clouds of vapor and the flavor was awesome. It was just getting broken in. the last few hits I took last night were awesome. I was giggling like a school girl at all the vapor.

Now this has me a bit worried. What am I doing wrong? Is my provari acting up? Just a string of bad luck? I drip and add 2-3 drops whenever I notice the flavor is chaning. I dont usually clean anything as I've had bad luck with the cleaning. I figured not blowing it out on the very first night wouldn't be a big deal, but perhaps I was wrong.

My go to vape is 50/50 Wyatt Earp from FSUSA. Its really dark and likely gunks up the atties, but it shouldn't kill them after a single day. This is now the 3rd atty in a row that hasn't lasted 24 hours. The Provari showed this one at 3.4 ohms so I was vaping it at 5volts (aprox 7.5 watts) so that shouldn't be an issue there. Can anyone shed some light on this?

 

[Cil]

I am now only using cartos but have the same issues but am using 3ohms at 6V, first one of a new pack died in 3 mins (lol) second one has been going for over a week. I've had other packs of 5 where only 2 work consistently and the others commit suicide in under a day.
Think you're just having a bad run of luck.

 

[JTman]

Thank you Cil for some reassurance. I had been having very good luck since I started last October. Its just been the last couple weeks that it seems everything is dying. My last 510 carto bit the dust the other day, all these atty problems. 2 of my cleromizers had the plastic tubes crack. And then my brand new 901 that was vaping like a champ yesterday sputters and dies on the 2nd vape of the morning.

Also, I'm thinking, with the provari and being able to up the volts, perhaps I am exposing these attys' weaknesses. Before I was just using an eGo which is less than 3.7volts. I suppose even a junker atty would still last a good while at low power. But now with my Provari I can crank up the volts, and the bad atties just take a dive that much quicker.

 

[Cil]

I have a theory that they're a bit like lemmings and once one goes the others follow. Also, on a more serious note, I think that life expectancy is much lower when you crank up the voltage it's why I use cartos at only a £1 each it doesn't hurt too much if a couple go to the grave early.

 

[JTman]

I might just start going the carto route myself. I find I like the clearomizers pretty well. While I can't chain vape on them if I give it a half minute every couple puffs it performs pretty solid for me. I want to get a MAP tank at some point as well. I hear it performs better. I think my next purchase will be a pack of cartos, I'm thinking BOGE in the 3.0 ohm range so I can vape around 5volts.

 

[billo]

Your setup is about the same wattage as running a 3.2 V eGo with a 1.4 ohm atty. When I went from 2.5 ohms to 1.8 ohms on the eGo the atty's blew much quicker--about 3 weeks average life versus 2 months. A few only lasted a week. I hate to think what a 1.4 ohm's life would be !

Bottom line--don't expect great life at that wattage, and be sure to keep the atty wet.

 

[JTman]

well now, appearently vaping a 3.4 ohm atty at 5volts voids the warranty. well I guess 7.4 watts is just crazy. I am not having a good week vaping it seems =/ Im about ready to just get rid of it all.

 

[wdave]

Okay. I have been loving my Provari for well over a month now. Its been great. Lately, however, I have been destroying all my hardware. I had a string of bad luck with some cheap-o atomizers. I just chalked it up to no-name brand junk. I had 1 of 5 that worked well. Now I got a couple of 901 atties in the mail yesterday. The first one died this morning! I put a couple drops in it and then it just doesnt fire. I check the connection and everything seems fine. I was loving this thing last night. Clouds of vapor and the flavor was awesome. It was just getting broken in. the last few hits I took last night were awesome. I was giggling like a school girl at all the vapor.

Now this has me a bit worried. What am I doing wrong? Is my provari acting up? Just a string of bad luck? I drip and add 2-3 drops whenever I notice the flavor is chaning. I dont usually clean anything as I've had bad luck with the cleaning. I figured not blowing it out on the very first night wouldn't be a big deal, but perhaps I was wrong.

My go to vape is 50/50 Wyatt Earp from FSUSA. Its really dark and likely gunks up the atties, but it shouldn't kill them after a single day. This is now the 3rd atty in a row that hasn't lasted 24 hours. The Provari showed this one at 3.4 ohms so I was vaping it at 5volts (aprox 7.5 watts) so that shouldn't be an issue there. Can anyone shed some light on this?

In my experience the geniune JOYE 510 atties and the geniune Npro atties have been the only atties to take seriously. Though I got tired of throwing away $10 on any atty and have tried the cartos. Supposedly cignot.com has a DOA warranty on the 510 cartos. though I have yet to call them on it.

I think the jury is still out on the eGo-T atties. Like some others well in the know, I'm holding on to my eGo batteries, etc hoping for more experience from others and maybe some fixes of design flaws. I think it's nonsense that you have to have an LR attie and a huge battery to use the eGo-T.

Just my two cents,
Dave


HTH,
Dave

 

[JTman]

I've had it with all atties. I guess I just didn't realize that I was very lucky with the first few I ever used. Now I'm so ...... about using up a $10 atty in a single day. Yay for expensive shiny metal tubes filling up my garbage can. I am so discouraged right now...

 

[DropEmCigs]

I've had it with all atties. I guess I just didn't realize that I was very lucky with the first few I ever used. Now I'm so ...... about using up a $10 atty in a single day. Yay for expensive shiny metal tubes filling up my garbage can. I am so discouraged right now...

You may want to have a look at this ?
I have one on order, so I can't yet comment on it personally. It might help you get out of the apparent deadlock that you seem to be in, though...since you can control the entire process by yourself. Also a nice thread to be found here in ECF - don't have the actual link...

 

[silkakc]

JT,

Maybe look for a Provari forum or post on their supplier thread here in the forums. Folks who use that mod will help you figure it out what's going on. Maybe your voltage is running higher than what it's saying.

 

[JTman]

You may want to have a look at this ?
I have one on order, so I can't yet comment on it personally. It might help you get out of the apparent deadlock that you seem to be in, though...since you can control the entire process by yourself. Also a nice thread to be found here in ECF - don't have the actual link...

Hey thats pretty cool! I've heard of rebuildable atomizers but never took a serious look at them. The pictures in that link show how simple the mechanisms behind vaping are. Its a shame we have to deal with such sketchy quality. I know there is another kind of rebuildable.... Ato-miser i think its called. Anyone have experience with those that want to chime in? I'll also search for that thread.

In the mean time I'm vaping an old used KR808 carto thats been lying around for months. Its vaping like a friggin champion! Unreal lol.

 

[JTman]

JT,

Maybe look for a Provari forum or post on their supplier thread here in the forums. Folks who use that mod will help you figure it out what's going on. Maybe your voltage is running higher than what it's saying.

I have a similar thread in the Provape forum already. Its not exactly the same post so I hope I'm not violating X-posting rules. But you raise a good point. I'll have to see if I can go about checking the provari's output. That likely means a purchase. I wonder if my Father in law has a voltmeter...

 

[DropEmCigs]

Hey thats pretty cool! I've heard of rebuildable atomizers but never took a serious look at them. The pictures in that link show how simple the mechanisms behind vaping are. Its a shame we have to deal with such sketchy quality. I know there is another kind of rebuildable.... Ato-miser i think its called. Anyone have experience with those that want to chime in? I'll also search for that thread.

In the mean time I'm vaping an old used KR808 carto thats been lying around for months. Its vaping like a friggin champion! Unreal lol.

Crossing fingers for the 808 to last....
Unfortunately it seems that most of my ideas leads to spending money....
So in that view, you could also look at ikenvape.com ((I have looked, too) - they seem to take a genuine interest in the quality of their atomizers - some of them are built with US materials a.s.o.

 

[SteveMacc]

Go for the Bulli A2 from Germany. Get the Stainless Steel one. Also, if you order one order extra wire and wick at the same time to avoid postage costs.

I use mine exclusively now. You can wind the coil to suit your preferred voltage and vaping style. Don't let the fact that it uses a cartridge put you off. The DSE 701 holds over 1ml of juice and the design of the A2 lets you wick it dry. You can also convert it to a tank in 5 minutes and convert it back if you don't like it.

This unit is far superior to the NHaler Ato-Miser version which is drip feed only.

If you are handy and can make a converter, Bulli also sell the A1 which is bigger but uses an RCA cinch connector (which at the end of the day all atomisers should use rather than a proprietary Chinese one).

I can make a new coil and wick in about 5 minutes for mine.

Here's the link:

http://www.bulli-smoker.com/verdampfer-atomizer/bulli-smoker-a1-atomizer-2.html