Help!!! I need quick answers

[tayone415]

So I got an hcigar copper Nemesis earlier, and I need to exchange it because it was missing an o-ring and I didn't have one that fit, the shop was already closed when I figured it out. I also realized my pins and contacts were silver plated, and not copper, like I seen in their store and in another, I don't think they checked the contacts or knew if there were 2 versions?

Which contact would be best copper or silver plated?

 

[retic1959]

So I got an hcigar copper Nemesis earlier, and I need to exchange it because it was missing an o-ring and I didn't have one that fit, the shop was already closed when I figured it out. I also realized my pins and contacts were silver plated, and not copper, like I seen in their store and in another, I don't think they checked the contacts or knew if there were 2 versions?

Which contact would be best copper or silver plated?

I don't think it matters too much , silver is highly conductive , I doubt there's a whole lot of difference they both tarnish and need to be kept clean .

 

[Blind Squirrel]

I would presume that the silver plated contacts would be nicer. One of the issues with clones is inconsistency in manufacturing. They will change specifications and materials on the fly to suit their supplies, abilities, etc.. The only clone I bought (Hcigar Nemesis) had so many issues I swore clones off. You may get something that functions and looks wonderful, or you could also get a piece of crap.

 

[Funk Dracula]

Which contact would be best copper or silver plated?

As I understand it, silver plated are corrosion resistant and require virtually no maintenance. FYI, it's probably silver plated copper contacts in there anyways. If not copper, for sure it's brass.

You're more than good either way, honestly.

Cheers

 

[tayone415]

I don't think it matters too much , silver is highly conductive , I doubt there's a whole lot of difference they both tarnish and need to be kept clean .

I was just thinking more of what happens if or when the silver plate wears out, I have a mod that maybe wearing off, unless the black marks is just from heat?

I would presume that the silver plated contacts would be nicer. One of the issues with clones is inconsistency in manufacturing. They will change specifications and materials on the fly to suit their supplies, abilities, etc.. The only clone I bought (Hcigar Nemesis) had so many issues I swore clones off. You may get something that functions and looks wonderful, or you could also get a piece of crap.

I have a stainless Nemesis with silver pins, and don't have any problems really, just could use some grease. I also have a black copper stingray with copper pins, that hits hard but not as hard as the Nemesis (both Hcigar clones), reason why I picked up the copper Nemesis, I don't know if the pins made a difference in that, reason for my question.

As I understand it, silver plated are corrosion resistant and require virtually no maintenance. FYI, it's probably silver plated copper contacts in there anyways. If not copper, for sure it's brass.

You're more than good either way, honestly.

Cheers

Their website says it's silver plated copper, but have had certain products listed that weren't always 100% accurate. Another B&M sells the copper Nemesis for $90 and said it's because it's the full copper version, and the place I got it for was $55 and I can get the same thing for less. I know it would be cheaper online, but I'm impatient and have bad luck buying things.

 

[thezoo]

If I remember my electronics training silver is the only material whose tarnish is conductive so while tarnished copper conducts the current flow poorly silver that is tarnished conducts very well which is why silver is considered a better conductor as far as the missing oring a few cents at a hardware store should have you back up and running in no time

 

[MrPlink]

You want the silver ones. Tell the shop charging more for copper pins to pound sand.

 

[Funk Dracula]

You want the silver ones. Tell the shop charging more for copper pins to pound sand.

Yup. They're full of crap. $90 for a Nemesis clone, "because it's the full copper one," is insulting frankly. Never go back there, and steer people away from that place whenever possible.

 

[tayone415]

If I remember my electronics training silver is the only material whose tarnish is conductive so while tarnished copper conducts the current flow poorly silver that is tarnished conducts very well which is why silver is considered a better conductor as far as the missing oring a few cents at a hardware store should have you back up and running in no time

I tried lowes only store open at that time, with no luck. I was just confused since I kept hearing silver is better and copper was better. So I guess that explains why my SS Nemesis with silver brass pins hits harder than my copper pin Stingray.

You want the silver ones. Tell the shop charging more for copper pins to pound sand.

The 3 guys at the shop are actually cool guys, they've actually given some things for free even without buying anything or asking for anything, and discounts on certain things that were already cheaper than other stores.

Yup. They're full of crap. $90 for a Nemesis clone, "because it's the full copper one," is insulting frankly. Never go back there, and steer people away from that place whenever possible.

A lot of their prices are better than most stores, but definitely not all and that was not one of them, so I bought it somewhere else.

 

[crxess]

You don't tell a shop to anything. If the price is not satisfactory, you walk. They are not your only source and you are not their only clientele.
some people shop Walmart and others jump a Jet to London or Paris.

Thread started silly. Someone buying something they know nothing about.
Copper = industry standard 100% conductive
Silver - (later applications) found to be BETTER = 105%

Only O-ring in a Nemesis is to stabilize the top cap AIR Ring. Not even a concern with most top devices used on mods and - Not a Required part for safe use. Certainly not something that warrants Mod Replacement. Just part replacement.
Plenty of correct fit o-rings available at most any hardware store - Lowes/home depot/Ace and on and on.

Yup. They're full of crap. $90 for a Nemesis clone, "because it's the full copper one," is insulting frankly. Never go back there, and steer people away from that place whenever possible.

Sorry - first you would need to know the shop - are they profit whoring or no.
We have a local shop whos pricing is higher than most - Difference is in Value of service. They have a flat out lifetime warranty on all mods, chargers, hardware - not consumables - right down to their EGO type batteries. They have very strong financial backing and I doubt they are going anywhere by choice.

 

[Midniteoyl]

If I remember my electronics training silver is the only material whose tarnish is conductive so while tarnished copper conducts the current flow poorly silver that is tarnished conducts very well which is why silver is considered a better conductor as far as the missing oring a few cents at a hardware store should have you back up and running in no time

Which is why relay contacts are silver

 

[Funk Dracula]

Sorry - first you would need to know the shop - are they profit whoring or no.
We have a local shop whos pricing is higher than most - Difference is in Value of service. They have a flat out lifetime warranty on all mods, chargers, hardware - not consumables - right down to their EGO type batteries. They have very strong financial backing and I doubt they are going anywhere by choice.

Generally speaking, of course there are exceptions. But generally speaking, and more than likely in this case, that shop is full of crap.

"Because it's the all copper version."

Come on now.

$90 for a Nemesis clone is over-reaching, and the reason given for the absurd price was uber lame.

There are lots of "super cool people" out there that will feed you the kool-aid. I know plenty of people in my biz that will pee on your head, and then easily convince you that it's only raining while they're doing it.

It's whatever though, spend your money wherever you want, for whatever reasons you or someone convinced you are valid.

I just agreed with Mr. Plinks post, and then some.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I agree. That's sketchy at best.
Sounds like an employee swapped the copper pins with his silver plated ones.
Was the mod new or used?

And to the guy giving lifetime warranties on EGOs: how is that financially viable?
Is the business ran as a loss? Tax front maybe?
Lol I dot see how there is any profit in that business model.

 

[tayone415]

You don't tell a shop to anything. If the price is not satisfactory, you walk. They are not your only source and you are not their only clientele.
some people shop Walmart and other jump a Jet to London or Paris.

Thread started silly. Someone buying something they know nothing about.
Copper = industry standard 100% conductive
Silver - (later applications) found to be BETTER = 105%

Only O-ring in a Nemesis is to stabilize the top cap AIR Ring. Not even a concern with most top devices used on mods and - Not a Required part for safe use. Certainly not something that warrants Mod Replacement. Just part replacement.
Plenty of correct fit o-rings available at most any hardware store - Lowes/home depot/Ace and on and on.



Sorry - first you would need to know the shop - are they profit whoring or no.
We have a local shop whos pricing is higher than most - Difference is in Value of service. They have a flat out lifetime warranty on all mods, chargers, hardware - not consumables - right down to their EGO type batteries. They have very strong financial backing and I doubt they are going anywhere by choice.

First of all I know what the o ring is for, second I'd prefer to have everything that is suppose to come with a brand new product I purchased, and not having to purchase something that should have came with it, and I prefer for my cap to be snug and not possibly fall when removing my atty, call me crazy. Third I checked Lowes the same night as I stated already, they didn't have the correct size, so no it can't be found at any hardware store. Fourth the mod is still unused, and buying something that is not the same thing you decided on, does warrant an exchange if someone may have only wanted that particular version.

Excuse me, if your judgmental ... is so perfect, and since day one, you've known everything without asking anyone, or have gotten the same exact answer each time, that I had not, that my thread is "silly" to you. OH, and yes I know nothing about anything, since I asked a simple question, NOT about an o-ring but about which pin would be better, since I was told copper is better and also told silver was and that it made no difference. So me asking that question, to try to get more reliable information, from people on ECF with more knowledge and or experience than me and people at my local B&Ms to verify so I can learn something I didn't know, to you means I know nothing. Sorry I thought that was the point of a forum. But, I obviously know nothing.

 

[tayone415]

I agree. That's sketchy at best.
Sounds like an employee swapped the copper pins with his silver plated ones.
Was the mod new or used?

And to the guy giving lifetime warranties on EGOs: how is that financially viable?
Is the business ran as a loss? Tax front maybe?
Lol I dot see how there is any profit in that business model.

Almost anything is possible, the MOD was a display at the more expensive priced B&M, the cheaper one had both copper and silver plated versions. I also seen different reviews on YOuTube and online with both types.

 

[crxess]

I agree. That's sketchy at best.
Sounds like an employee swapped the copper pins with his silver plated ones.
Was the mod new or used?

And to the guy giving lifetime warranties on EGOs: how is that financially viable?
Is the business ran as a loss? Tax front maybe?
Lol I dot see how there is any profit in that business model.

You forget juice profits, and they have several hundred choices from over 1/2 top brand manufacturers. Even their house brands are relabeled high end with consistency in production.
Add to that, the fact many will not stick to ego's for long with a good selection of higher end mods and the fact they are part of an extremely large regional franchise with 1 policy, I think they have the #'s figured out.

 

[bluesbishop]

The o ring is a 12mm x 1mm viton o'ring ...I'm a huge believer in spare parts search eBay for some spares, and go to fat daddy for spare delrin caps, and a set of extended contacts, and spare rice pins and you'll be set

Sent from my LG G2 on the Sprint Spark Network

 

[tayone415]

The o ring is a 12mm x 1mm viton o'ring ...I'm a huge believer in spare parts search eBay for some spares, and go to fat daddy for spare delrin caps, and a set of extended contacts, and spare rice pins and you'll be set

Sent from my LG G2 on the Sprint Spark Network

Thanks, that's useful, I'll be looking into rice pins, since I found out my mod was also missing the rice pin, luckily my B&M had some or at least 1 and fixed it for me.