Help identifying please?

[klikmaus]

Okay I just got into the e-cig world about a week ago with the purchase of this "Super E-Cigarette" I got at a tobacco shop in Mesquite TX. It's decent, though the pre-filled cartomizer's taste is quite lacking.... I'm going to start filling my own empties soon as I get the "stuff" to do it with, but I have a nagging question. I was almost 100% convinced my e-cig was a RN4081 but ran across a web image showing the package I bought which was labeled as the Joye 510. So.... which is this? Is it possible to identify just by the packaging or will I have to dissect it and look at the battery's innards? I looked at the post showing the break-down of the RN4081's battery and the LED perf board is slightly different than my arrangement.
Can anyone help with this, or does it really matter? I DO know that the cart post threading is of a more coarse threading than that of the threading of the disposable e-cigs you can get at Wal-Mart's gas stations... (Murphy's)

 

[loft]

Disconnect cartridge/cartomizer from battery and post pictures of threading (of battery and cart)

 

[webbcm127]

when u take the cart off what does it look like? oh and is it a 3 peice or 2 peice

 

[tmcase]

I sounds exactly like the one somebody else posted about and it was decided that it is a RN4081. Here's the post: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/15474-super-e-cigarette.html

 

[bmwjen]

yeah, it needs to be disassembled so that we can see the threads, atty & how many parts it has. Could even be a 401.

 

[klikmaus]

Okay here are the pics... it is a two piece unit. The cartridge is stainless steel underneath the yellow/brown label.
Sorry the quality of the pics isn't all that great, my only camera is the one on my android phone, 3.2 mp's... If it helps, the diameter of the device is that of a Camel Wide, not skinny like a normal cig...

 

[klikmaus]

The web page that got me bugging that it might be the Joye 510 is this link below: the packaging is exactly the same as what I bought so here in lies my confusion:

The Better Way To Smoke - 510 Mini Kit, Tobacco

 

[loft]

Looks like a 510. Is the cartridge a two or three piece? Can you pull the plastic off the cartridge? lol...

 

[demon72]

Looks exactly like a 510 to me, but alas I have no 4081 experience to compare it to.

 

[klikmaus]

The bottom of the cart? Yes, the white plastic cap/end piece comes off and there's a second plastic ring down inside (I dissected one yesterday to see how refilling them would work out).

 

[loft]

Sounds even more like a 510 cartomizer. Some vendors use a second cap to catch juice, while others combine them into the rubber cap.

 

[klikmaus]

Okay thanks! Are there any pro's/con's to either the 510 or the RN4081's which I should be aware of? I am going to stick with these carts, flush and refill with better juice (when I get to that point, that is)....

 

[dormouse]

It looks nothing like a 510
510 is a 3-piece ecigarette with a quite-visible 1/2 inch or more middle piece that is the atomizer. The only time I have ever seen 510 sold with cartomizers is when a vendor puts together their own kits and calls it 510 cartomizer kit.

Super E-Cigarette is usually RN4081

A. If what you have is thicker than 9mm, female battery male cartomizer, then it is probably RN4081
B. If is it over 9mm diameter, female battery, with a steel atomizer with external bridge and cart goes over the atomizer, probably RN4081
C. If almost like B but bridge is recessed in the atomizer, then it may be DSE103 (needs DSE103 carts for the DSE103 atty)
D. An unlikely female battery possibility is L88b w/ a cartomizer like Blu, a reverse polarity model with 510 threading, or other 510 clone
E. It could look like any of the above but be an incompatible look-alike model

If what you have is smaller diameter than 9mm then you will probably never identify it - give up

If it is a male battery then tell us - it would be none of the above

 

[demon72]

Dormouse.... a 510 cartomizer.... look at the threads, airholes, regular headed screwdriver lookin tip of the battery side of the carto...

 

[klikmaus]

ROTFL dormouse....

It is right at 9mm in diameter.
What do you mean when you say "external atomizer"? What is the bridge? The center post of the cartomizer is just a hair bit recessed inside the threaded stem (male cartomizer, yeppers!)... But in analogy-- Ford's and Chevy's both run on gasoline (unless you're driving a diesel!), and I don't really plan on putting an aftermarket blower on this thing... at least at the moment! Thanks for the help!

 

[dormouse]

Yeah that is weird - 510 labeled as super e-cig AND RN4081 labeled as super e-cig. Guess it's up to you to figure it out. Buy a carto for one or the other and see if it works.

It is probably an SLB cartomizer if it has an annoying inner seal. There are many manufacturers of cartos for 510. Are you saying they are all identical? BTW I hate SLB cartos - I bought 5, tried one, and threw the rest out. I recommend Boge standard resistance cartos with 510 (you cannot use the LR ones on slim batteries)

Downside of each? 510 is very popular, lots of carto types, tanks. RN4081 is not as popular, few carto types but some prefilled cartos around even in some 7-11's since it is usually sold as a 2-piece. I wouldn't use either with auto batteries. If you find that it is RN4081 then you can get a manual battery ay AZSmokeFree.com and the threaded end should be totally sealed on that and safe for damage by carto leaks (as well as easier to get a good hit).

And warning - if what you have is 510, there is a small chance it could be reverse polarity from normal 510's. There is at least one clone 510 that is reverse polarity. Such a clone's charger will fry a real 510 battery and vice versa.

 

[demon72]

ROTFL dormouse....

It is right at 9mm in diameter.
What do you mean when you say "external atomizer"? What is the bridge? The center post of the cartomizer is just a hair bit recessed inside the threaded stem (male cartomizer, yeppers!)... But in analogy-- Ford's and Chevy's both run on gasoline (unless you're driving a diesel!), and I don't really plan on putting an aftermarket blower on this thing... at least at the moment! Thanks for the help!

Yea I figured most of that was giberish...it was to me anyway!

It is an SLB cartomizer if it has an annoying inner seal. There are many manufacturers of cartos for 510. Are you saying they are all identical?

Nah... I doubt they are identical.... did you look at the pics that the OP posted in post #6? looks like a 510 to me, thats all (bein that Im vaping a boge 2.0 on my little riva 510, I was able to just unscrew it and look at the similarities)

 

[klikmaus]

Hmmm... "normal" polarity of the 510 would be center positive or center negative?

 

[dormouse]

I had not seen that. I am looking at those pics now.

My 510's have 4 notches in the edge of the battery - one every 90 degrees.

What am I supposed to be seeing?

The carto is not that meaningful. 510 and RN4081 are so close they can use the same push-in PCC from NoSmokeVA. Both are female batteries. I do not have an RN4081 to compare. Anyone have one?

My 510 charging cables have no polarity indication on them. Re atomizers - if you have cartomizers then you do not have an atomizer. Ecigs either come with atomizer+carts or with cartomizers. And Atomizers and cartomizers do not care about polarity. Only chargers and PCC's and batteries do.

And here is an RN4081 battery. Also looks darn close to what the OP has.
http://www.rn-union.com/System/Upjpeg/201141784373499.jpg

Buy cartos for one of the other and try them. Call 7-11's near you. One of them may carry the Njoy 2-n-1 aka Npro which is RN4081 and cartos for it. Or many online places sell 510 Boge standard resistance cartos, several sell RN4081 cartos. Try one of the other.

Single 510 cartos here
http://www.valuevapor.com/VV/store/...ath=18&zenid=560831c148f21c633a3754f4c643d77e

With RN4081 you may need to get a whole pack to try them (AZSmokeFree, Vaporkings.com, Njoy, Smokestick)

 

[demon72]

There are many manufacturers of cartos for 510. Are you saying they are all identical? .

Insert batteries instead of cartos above.

I had not seen that. I am looking at those pics now.

This is what I was refering to when I said it looks like a 510 to me.

My 510's have 4 notches in the edge of the battery - one every 90 degrees.

So do mine.

What am I supposed to be seeing?

Why, the pictures in post #6 of course!

The carto is not that meaningful. 510 and RN4081 are so close they can use the same push-in PCC from NoSmokeVA. Both are female batteries. I do not have an RN4081 to compare. Anyone have one?

No I dont have one, but Ill take your word for it.

And here is an RN4081 battery. Also looks darn close to what the OP has.
http://www.rn-union.com/System/Upjpeg/201141784373499.jpg

Yes, yes it does!