Help me choose first "real" Mod

[Chinner]

I know the mods these days have moved to VV, VW, LCD's, Regulated Power, etc..., but I have had a Chuck for over a year, and I vape 6v all day long. I've only had to change the switch a couple of times, which is very easily done with a solder iron. I have the option to vape @ 3.7, and now they have 4.8v batteries, but if you enjoy 6v, what's the point of VV? You might say," all the different resistances of the atties or cartos", but all you hAve to do is find the atty or carto that suits you and get those. Order you some lr's for your 3.7 dripping, and your regular resistance cartos for throughout the day. I have the Chuck and Saber Touch, but I steer away from all the gadgets. Too many parts to break down, and everything eventually breaks down. The Reos look nice. Not too much gadgetry, and the feed pump, and even the switch is mechanical. Which means less chance that something will go wrong. If you are just looking at your list, I vote Reo.

Though I agree that all mechanical mods offer more comfort as car as durability goes, that can't be the main factor in deciding.

This is the was I see it. You have 24 months of hassle free Darwin use under warranty for $230, or less then 10$ a month. Everything that happens after is just bonus as I see it. Yes it's not bomb proof like a SS Super-T or somehing, but the vape more then makes up for it. The cost factor for most of us ex smokers should be the least of our worries IMHO.

So it's nice to say you vape at 6v's all day and love it. But would you really be at 6v all day if you could change it in seconds with the flick of a finger? I'd be surprised if you did.

This mod will allow you to try 3.7, 5v, 6v and anything beyond or in between, with any carto/atty setup you can think of. I have a bendy gooseneck on mine so there's no limits to what I can stick on it lol.. Even beter then that, it's bloody easy to use.

I thought I wanted a tube mod till I tried the Darwin. This and the reo seem to be IMO the way to go, especially as a first mod. I still want a reo and will own one soon hahaha, but Darwin just does it all, and if anything you can use the Darwin to dial in what you like before you commit to 3.7 or 6v stuff.

Ramble over lol.. Just buy what suits you best! Good luck!

 

[wsu99999]

Hey guys - Thanks for all of the info. In general, I'm the type of person that looks at a PV as a short term investment. If it works for a year, it's MORE than paid for itself. I mean come on, something for 300 bucks (which is about the most expensive thing I've seen out there) isn't a huge investment if it works well for a while. Now, if it breaks down in 4 months, sure i'd have an issue, but I don't see many people complaining about any of the PV's out there breaking down prematurely.

That being said, I don't mind if the bells and whistles mean it won't last as long. I'm not buying a car. Simple isn't always better. If I'm wrong, and simple is better, let me know. I just don't want to limit myself based upon complexity. If the reason the Reo is highly acclaimed is because it's simple, I doubt it's the mod for me. I'm not saying that's the case, but that's what I read about one of the earlier comments.

To the guys that both said the Darwin sees the majority of your use - my question is why? What does the Darwin offer that the Provari doesn't? From the looks of the specs and what others have said, it seems they should offer around the same performance level. If the darwin actually works better, I'd be more interested in it...

I was leaning Provari because I like the look, plus they are local (and while that means I have to pay sales tax, it also means I'm supporting a small local business)

Though I agree that all mechanical mods offer more comfort as car as durability goes, that can't be the main factor in deciding.

This is the was I see it. You have 24 months of hassle free Darwin use under warranty for $230, or less then 10$ a month. Everything that happens after is just bonus as I see it. Yes it's not bomb proof like a SS Super-T or somehing, but the vape more then makes up for it. The cost factor for most of us ex smokers should be the least of our worries IMHO.

So it's nice to say you vape at 6v's all day and love it. But would you really be at 6v all day if you could change it in seconds with the flick of a finger? I'd be surprised if you did.

This mod will allow you to try 3.7, 5v, 6v and anything beyond or in between, with any carto/atty setup you can think of. I have a bendy gooseneck on mine so there's no limits to what I can stick on it lol.. Even beter then that, it's bloody easy to use.

I thought I wanted a tube mod till I tried the Darwin. This and the reo seem to be IMO the way to go, especially as a first mod. I still want a reo and will own one soon hahaha, but Darwin just does it all, and if anything you can use the Darwin to dial in what you like before you commit to 3.7 or 6v stuff.

Ramble over lol.. Just buy what suits you best! Good luck!

 

[mgaruccio]

I don't own either mod so I may be wrong but as I understood it the primary advantage to the darwin is that rather than setting voltage you set wattage and the PV itself reads the resistance of your atomizer and adjusts the voltage accordingly to produce the desired wattage, whereas on the provari you would have to do the calculation yourself. in addition to that the provari has a replaceable battery while the darwin doesn't, for me thats a deal breaker as my mods go camping with me away from any kind of electrical outlet and not being able to carry an extra batt would cause problems on day 4 or 5 of those trips, for most people though its not a concern as I haven't heard anyone saying their darwin didnt last at the very least a day.

Personally I went for the REO grand because I hated dripping/tanks/cartos/everything else ive tried other than the reo, of course like 5 days later I discovered the vapemate from super-t so I am now saving for a provari with a vapemate, which I hope will provide the best of both worlds, it probably wont leave the house tho as it doesn't look like that setup would survive a fall very well.

 

[sizemore2000]

That's great! The Darwin looks like a great device, but money is always an issue, and I'll still be vaping on my tube mod long after your Darwin has bit the dust! LOL! But, that's what's great about vaping, all the different choices. I have the perfect vape everytime, but if you are new to vaping, maybe the Darwin would be the way to go. I'd choose it over the Provari just for the longer battery life. The Darwin's proprietary battery has to be sent back to the shop to be replaced though. I know, it's only 25.00, but you'd better hope the store doesn't shut down, or he quits servicing them. I'm sure you'd get your money's worth, but you'd better have a backup. Of course, I mean, you need a backup for any device you have so you can vape while the other is being repaired, either by you or the shop. If you are like me, you end up getting several mods, and switch every so often just to vape on something different! LOL!

 

[wv2win]

I think the Provari is a fine PV. I think the Darwin as some advantages, however. As mentioned above, it is the only PV that senses the resistence change in the atty/carto and automatically adjusts the power output to maintain a very consistent vaping to your own personal setting. I've read with the Provari you need to sift through the menu by pressing the button mutiple times to change settings. With the Darwin, you move the thumb wheel and then forget it. I can say the Darwin is the first better battery PV I'v owned where I don't have to worry about carrying extra batteries. 21-35 hours on a charge is liberating. Plus it doubles as a pass thorough. The device has a full 2 year warranty where as you have to pay extra on the Provari for the same warranty level. It also has a full 1 year warranty on the battery. There really aren't many downsides.

 

[Diablo]

I agree about the Darwin, all I care about is the watts. I don't understand Ohms law that well, just let my put what I want on it and set the watts I want to vape and let the device adjust the rest for me.(simplicity) Think I will get one next time they are available.

 

[Knucks]

I own a reo mini as well as a provari. Both are great for different reasons. I enjoy the provari with a map tank for around the house( great vapor and cheap ce2 replacements). The reo is also very easy and is great with a low resistance carto. I use my reo when out and about mainly because it is very pocket friendly. Reo, an extra battery and a backup carto-great for an active day.

 

[Liv2Ski]

wsu99999 - As stated the Vari is an awesome PV. In the Provape thread you will see posts from me stating that. For me the Vari is a great unit when I am home but it looses out against the Darwin on portability. Both units deliver a great vape and if I lost one I would replace it. So let me see if I can list some things for you and hopefully it will help:

Both units made in US
Both Solidly built
Vari wins for machining and attention to detail
Darwin wins for ease of use and consistency
Vari wins for battery options
Darwin wins for length between charges and Passthrough capability
Darwin wins for pocketability and travel companion (only need USB cable and can charge off computer)
Darwin wins for design concept and uniqueness

I wish I could make the choice easier for you but only you can decide what factors are important to you. I know if I only had the cash to get one I would buy the Darwin first and the Vari second. Again either MOD is going to serve you well and I am certain that whatever unit you choose you will be more than satisfied. I would suggest getting some lower nic juice when you get the new MOD since it is really easy to go overboard with either one of these bad boys. Enjoy and happy vapes

 

[tsbrewers]

That's great! The Darwin looks like a great device, but money is always an issue, and I'll still be vaping on my tube mod long after your Darwin has bit the dust! LOL! But, that's what's great about vaping, all the different choices. I have the perfect vape everytime, but if you are new to vaping, maybe the Darwin would be the way to go. I'd choose it over the Provari just for the longer battery life. The Darwin's proprietary battery has to be sent back to the shop to be replaced though. I know, it's only 25.00, but you'd better hope the store doesn't shut down, or he quits servicing them. I'm sure you'd get your money's worth, but you'd better have a backup. Of course, I mean, you need a backup for any device you have so you can vape while the other is being repaired, either by you or the shop. If you are like me, you end up getting several mods, and switch every so often just to vape on something different! LOL!

By the time the darwin has bit the dust, there will be something bigger and better out, that both you and me are using. The darwin also uses a fairly easy to find Lipo battery that is pretty easy to replace yourself if you want. So it isn't a big concern if they are still in business.

I don't own the darwin myself, but it is on my very short list of "when I have the cash" wants.

Brew

 

[Diablo]

Thats a pretty good list Liv2Ski,

If I rate each one important or not important to me. It becomes a very easy choice, unless the Provari has more things to add to it vs the darwin.

Both units made in US---Important
Both Solidly built ---Important
Vari wins for machining and attention to detail----Not important
Darwin wins for ease of use and consistency---Important
Vari wins for battery options----Not important when compared to the Darwin
Darwin wins for length between charges and Passthrough capability---Important
Darwin wins for pocketability and travel companion (only need USB cable and can charge off computer)---Important
Darwin wins for design concept and uniqueness----not important

I will add:

Price---almost the same when you add the 18650 extension, 2 year warranty and 2 18650 batteries even if you don't need them, the Darwin comes with a battery that last 15+hrs, so for comparing apples to apples I added those to the price.

Cost $228.85 vs $229