Help! My first shot as total DIY is mucked up? Or needs to steep? Coffee.

[pizza2me]

Hi all,

I used TPA Coffee (clear) PG.

Tried to make 60PG/40PG, 15mg. I started with the assumption I've read to start with 10% flavoring. (but I've since read that maybe I should have started lower with this flavor... ? Can't find it now though)

I used the e-juice Calculator and did the following to make 8ml of juice. Using 100%PG 48mg nic.

Nic = 2.5ml
PG = 1.5ml
VG = 3.2ml
flavor = .8ml

Smells kinda like vanilla/cocoa butterish. Tastes REALLY weird. can't describe it.

Am I way off with the 10%? Something else?

Or does it just need to steep?

Thanks!!!

(On to try tobacco Blend or Tobacco Flavor.... Both of which I've heard must steep... And use a lower % of flavoring... I think.)

 

[mgordon1100]

I hate to say it, but I think you totally messed it up. But you're in luck. I happen to be certified in disposal of mucked up nicotine juice. I'll send you a pm so you know where you can send it. I'll dispose of it for you for free. Just my way of giving to the community.

 

[pizza2me]

What a guy!!! What would we do without good folks like you on this forum!

 

[TheJack]

i`m not sure if this will help seeing i only know how to mix one way but when i mix i use, 20ml of 36mg pg base with 5ml VG. then i add flavor as needed. usually about 2ml of flavoring. that didnt help did it lol?

 

[mgordon1100]

What a guy!!! What would we do without good folks like you on this forum!

I ask myself that same question every day I wake up.

But, you do have other choices here. You can wait a day to see if the taste improves. I don't know. The smell is what it is. I'm surprised it doesn't smell like coffee, as that's the only flavor you used. What does the stuff smell like by itself? Do you think it may not be coffee at all? You could lower the amount of flavor percentage, by calculating a flavorless 60/40 15% batch and adding those ingredients to your mix. Or, you can add a drop or two to increase the flavor. I don't think 10% was a bad place to start. You can use high school algebra to figure out how to change it.

 

[Lyndagayle]

If you feel you over did it with flavor, try adding the exact same amounts of everything EXCEPT the flavor. From there you can add one drop at a time to get it where it's vapable. I've heard the coffee flavors are really strong so I'd start with 5% flavoring and work up. If you add the same amounts of nic, VG and PG, that would give you 16 ml at 5% flavor. That's my 2 cents. Lord knows I've chugged more juice down the drain than what I've been able to vape since I started DIY so take it for what it's worth. lol

 

[mgordon1100]

Lindagayle, I have to disagree with your post. If he adds the exact amounts of everything, except for flavor, then the nicotine percentage will increase. For 15mg/ml of nic to remain constant, then 15mg/ml liquid must be added. It must equal what is already in existence for it to remain constant.

 

[Lyndagayle]

You are so right mgordon. Thanks for the correction. I did not take into account that 10% of the mixture was flavor. That's what happens when I try to do a math problem without pencil and paper.

 

[mgordon1100]

Look at it like this, I'm not even attempting to do the math. That will really screw him up.

 

[Prettycat191]

For TPA coffee I did this recipe:

40/60 PG/VG Blend

5% TPA coffee
5% Lorann Caramel
5% TPA Double Chocolate
2% Lorann Cotton Candy

To get your flavoring to 5% add:

2.5ml nic
2.3ml PG
3.2ml VG

This will keep you at 60/40 PG/VG with 15mg nic and make your juice 5% flavoring. Pour into a larger bottle if you need to.

The reason you'll add more PG is to keep the correct PG% from the missing flavoring.

Hope this helps!

 

[pizza2me]

Wow! Awesome info folks!! I'll have to try it out tonight. And thanks for the recipe! I need to get more flavors to try that. I'm trying to start simple. My wife likes straight Coffee and I like straight Tobacco.

Prettycat... Does that recipe taste like black Coffee or something mixed? And do you usually have to steep your Coffee mixes?

Thanks for the great help! I'll be back! :=)

 

[Prettycat191]

Heh, I haven't tasted it since I made it, since I made it for someone else, but he loves it! I need to make it again so i can give actual feedback on it.

When i tasted it initially, it was coffee with a hint of caramel. But the flavors take longer to meld and grow, so the other flavors would come out more after a few days. Think a Starbucks coffee type of vape.

Any coffee can benefit from a little sweetener, such as the cotton candy/ethyl maltol, so that might help.

Many of the vendor juices aren't just one flavor straight, coffee juices usually are coffee combined with something else. Same for tobaccos, I'm pretty sure many or them add caramel, etc. for more tasty juice. I can't stand tobacco, but i have as yet to see a juice that's straight up coffee flavor. Adding a flavor doesn't mean you'll taste that flavor, sometimes it simply enhances the existing flavors. Depending on how much you use.

 

[Prettycat191]

Forgot to add, coffees and tobaccos tend to mellow with age too, in my opinion these flavors benefit the most from steeping more than any others

 

[pizza2me]

Awesome info prettycat!! Thanks! Tonight I'll dilute it down to 5% and let it sit a few days. And order some caramel and sweetener! And start working on my tobacco for me. I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks!