Help with base percentages

[doghair]

All TFA. I found the first five in other threads but am not having any luck finding RY4 or Kahlua&Cream. Can anyone provide me with a rough base percentage for a starting line please? I wan't to try some mixtures of bases but only have 4ml bottles to monkey around with

Any other opinions are welcome

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Black Honey tobacco: 3-5%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12%
French Vanilla: 10%
Dulce de Leche: 10%
Milk Chocolate: 20%
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Kahlua and Cream (Guessing around 10%)
RY4 Type Flavor (Guessing 2-3%)

 

[MarkyD]

RY4 Type-1 is kinda weak, it's about half the concentration of RY4 double, Id start with at least 10%. Black honey at 5% is nice, but it needs to age at least a couple weeks. I'd start much lower with the dulce de leche, especially if youre just using it as an additive, 2-4% may still be too much.

 

[zoiDman]

All TFA. I found the first five in other threads but am not having any luck finding RY4 or Kahlua&Cream. Can anyone provide me with a rough base percentage for a starting line please? I wan't to try some mixtures of bases but only have 4ml bottles to monkey around with

Any other opinions are welcome

--
Black Honey tobacco: 3-5%
Double Chocolate (Clear) 10-12%
French Vanilla: 10%
Dulce de Leche: 10%
Milk Chocolate: 20%
--
Kahlua and Cream (Guessing around 10%)
RY4 Type Flavor (Guessing 2-3%)

I've never made what you want to make. But if I am Reading this Right, Your Total Flavoring Percentages are Way TOO HIGH for TFA Flavors.

I would Try going for 10~12% of TOTAL Flavoring to Start. And then see how it Tastes after Steeping for 3 Days.

 

[doghair]

RY4 Type-1 is kinda weak, it's about half the concentration of RY4 double, Id start with at least 10%. Black honey at 5% is nice, but it needs to age at least a couple weeks. I'd start much lower with the dulce de leche, especially if youre just using it as an additive, 2-4% may still be too much.

That's what I'm looking for, appreciate it.

 

[doghair]

I've never made what you want to make. But if I am Reading this Right, Your Total Flavoring Percentages are Way TOO HIGH for TFA Flavors.

I would Try going for 10~12% of TOTAL Flavoring to Start. And then see how it Tastes after Steeping for 3 Days.

I get that. I'm looking for the baseline percentages or starting point for each, not the total percentage for a batch.

 

[Renolizzie]

I like ry4 at about 4%.

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[HilseeJ]

Firstly, I've seen other people use 10% dulce de leche with 5% of other flavorings, so you might not be too far off there. (Sorry to contradict previous poster)

Also, this question goes to OP as well as the posters in this thread - what % VG/PG are you guys using? I have found myself using way more flavoring, and not tasting any sweetness with a 70% VG mix.

 

[doghair]

Firstly, I've seen other people use 10% dulce de leche with 5% of other flavorings, so you might not be too far off there. (Sorry to contradict previous poster)

Also, this question goes to OP as well as the posters in this thread - what % VG/PG are you guys using? I have found myself using way more flavoring, and not tasting any sweetness with a 70% VG mix.

50/50 here. I read the stickys and tfa threads and am trying to get an idea where to start, must admit some of what I found sounded really high. I have the berry style flavors down pretty well but the tobacco and other darks are new to me. I think the dulce de leche is very close to the bavarian creme I have and it's around 1.5 in the sweet flavors, might try 2% with the chocolate and tobacco to start.

This info filled in some blanks and should help me get my first run on the shelf. You guys rock.

 

[MarkyD]

Dulce de leche, as with any other flavoring, the usable percentage range depends on whether you're using something as a primary flavoring or as an additive, and the relative strengths of whatever its being combined with. I use it in a couple tobacco mixes and at anything over a couple percent it will easily overpower the tobaccos. I'd rather have it compliment the tobacco than vice-versa. To me its a strong flavoring that becomes increasingly annoying at higher percentages. With the RY4, the Type-1 is only a portion of the strength of (e.g) RY4 double. As an RY4, its ok, but the problem with using is it that by the time you add enough of it to a mix to make it really pop, it has consumed more than its fair share of the total PG quantity available to the mix. For example, in a 10ml 50/50 mix, only 5ml of total PG volume is available, so using more of "this" leaves less room for "that". Using the TFA double or a more concentrated version like VapingZone or Hangsen solves this.

 

[HilseeJ]

Dulce de leche, as with any other flavoring, the usable percentage range depends on whether you're using something as a primary flavoring or as an additive, and the relative strengths of whatever its being combined with. I use it in a couple tobacco mixes and at anything over a couple percent it will easily overpower the tobaccos. I'd rather have it compliment the tobacco than vice-versa. To me its a strong flavoring that becomes increasingly annoying at higher percentages. With the RY4, the Type-1 is only a portion of the strength of (e.g) RY4 double. As an RY4, its ok, but the problem with using is it that by the time you add enough of it to a mix to make it really pop, it has consumed more than its fair share of the total PG quantity available to the mix. For example, in a 10ml 50/50 mix, only 5ml of total PG volume is available, so using more of "this" leaves less room for "that". Using the TFA double or a more concentrated version like VapingZone or Hangsen solves this.

I've been dancing with Dulce de Leche percentages myself. There's a part of me that LOVES it straight and puts it in the top 5 flavoring category, but there's another parts that likes the idea of using it as a sweetener/additive as well.

That also explains my issues with other flavors. I feel like having a flavor at 15-20% just kills the "feel" of the juice. It's hard to describe.