Hey Guys, The Video should explain everything. I really need some help with this sucker. I want her running perfect for my Caravela.
I appreciate any input/suggestions.
Has anyone else had an issue with the Bliss in particular?
Help With my BLISS! Super Frustrated (With Video)
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Hey Guys, The Video should explain everything. I really need some help with this sucker. I want her running perfect for my Caravela.
I appreciate any input/suggestions.
Has anyone else had an issue with the Bliss in particular?
Hear I thought that it was just me.
I got a DiD clone and the first wick and coil I made for that works great.
But I still can not get the bliSS to work at all.
Hope someone can help with this.
I got a DiD clone and the first wick and coil I made for that works great.
But I still can not get the bliSS to work at all.
Hope someone can help with this.
Aha! I knew there had to be something up, I'm sure one of the pros will chime in and help us
Mine works flawlessly, it has come to be one of my favorite atomizers.
I absolutely HATE having to do a "genesis tilt" to vape from my genesis style atomizers, it looks stupid and if I need to tip my awesome high end atomizers then what's the point. So, that being said, I am extremely picky when it come to getting mine to wick correctly, Here is my setup and mine vapes awesome even at vertical:
#400 mesh
32g w/ 3/4 coil @ 1.5ohms
My wick is rolled at about a medium walled tube still leaving a hole down the center, here is the kicker.......it would seem with the extra feed hole and wick hole open that there wouldn't be an issue with "air return" to the tank and one could make a nice fat wick that is snug in the wick hole.......for me this has not been the case.
I had similar issues with wicking when I first got mine but quickly realized that I could not make a wick that is super snug into the wick hole and found that if I made a smaller diameter wick and left that lil bit of room between the wick and wick hole then juice flow was not a problem. Now the only tilting I do is the slight tilt of naturally bringing yer APV to yer mouth......none of this outrageous, way high, above horizontal tilts..
I have never worked with 500 mesh before but I can't see that really being yer issue with all of the 500 mesh success stories. Try making a smaller wick that you are used to and leave that lil bit of space in there in the wick hole and I bet it will help.
Hope this helps man, The BliSS really is an awesome atomizer.
I absolutely HATE having to do a "genesis tilt" to vape from my genesis style atomizers, it looks stupid and if I need to tip my awesome high end atomizers then what's the point. So, that being said, I am extremely picky when it come to getting mine to wick correctly, Here is my setup and mine vapes awesome even at vertical:
#400 mesh
32g w/ 3/4 coil @ 1.5ohms
My wick is rolled at about a medium walled tube still leaving a hole down the center, here is the kicker.......it would seem with the extra feed hole and wick hole open that there wouldn't be an issue with "air return" to the tank and one could make a nice fat wick that is snug in the wick hole.......for me this has not been the case.
I had similar issues with wicking when I first got mine but quickly realized that I could not make a wick that is super snug into the wick hole and found that if I made a smaller diameter wick and left that lil bit of room between the wick and wick hole then juice flow was not a problem. Now the only tilting I do is the slight tilt of naturally bringing yer APV to yer mouth......none of this outrageous, way high, above horizontal tilts..
I have never worked with 500 mesh before but I can't see that really being yer issue with all of the 500 mesh success stories. Try making a smaller wick that you are used to and leave that lil bit of space in there in the wick hole and I bet it will help.
Hope this helps man, The BliSS really is an awesome atomizer.
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Like SP said
Try making a smaller wick that you are used to and leave that lil bit of space in there in the wick hole and I bet it will help.
this should work for you. It is your wick that is the issue.. try making it thinner and leave a little bit of room from the hole.
Works best for me.. 500 is good stuff.. but if its too tight it doesnt seem to want to wick correctly. good luck!
Try making a smaller wick that you are used to and leave that lil bit of space in there in the wick hole and I bet it will help.
this should work for you. It is your wick that is the issue.. try making it thinner and leave a little bit of room from the hole.
Works best for me.. 500 is good stuff.. but if its too tight it doesnt seem to want to wick correctly. good luck!
I would also leave a little hole down the center of the wick and not wrap it til its a solid mass. I use 100%vg with no problems.
Z_Ghost
If your wick is tight, then do as spraintz suggested. Or...if the juice in your tank appears thick, try to lower juice viscosity by adding a drop or two of distilled water. Then make sure your wick is primed, fully saturated with juice. Then start at a lower voltage, don't glow those coils, this will cause "dry-out" of the wick and prevent capillary flow.
Doots, how much water content does your 100%VG have?
If your wick is tight, then do as spraintz suggested. Or...if the juice in your tank appears thick, try to lower juice viscosity by adding a drop or two of distilled water. Then make sure your wick is primed, fully saturated with juice. Then start at a lower voltage, don't glow those coils, this will cause "dry-out" of the wick and prevent capillary flow.
Doots, how much water content does your 100%VG have?
Wow, thanks for the tips everybody. I am going to give this sucker another honest day's try and then she's hitting the classifieds to try and trade her for a DiD or AC9 
Also, does anybody know if the spare O'Rings on the Site are the new Red ones that help with the leaking?
I sent several emails to Dave and the Operators of EliteVaporWorks many days ago and haven't been dignified with a response.
I sent several emails to Dave and the Operators of EliteVaporWorks many days ago and haven't been dignified with a response.
Glad you fixed your problem.
However, the problem was not your bliss, you did not fix the bliss, you fix your technique of putting a wick in a hole. This applies to all gennys and in fact all wicks. If you pinch a wick, even slightly, you will diminish its ability to wick. With a genny you also get surface adhesion, meaning your juice wants to stick the the wall of your wick hole, so it further reduces capillary flow through your SS mesh. Spraintz has posted his solution before and well as other great advice. (props to spraintz for all his real help and helping here, his posts actually provide detailed insightful information) A quick search of the ECF forum would have resolved your problem.
Apparently you are not a noob and not to be rude, but your six minutes video response was over kill. Who was this thread really for?
Videos are always great to see what you did, but really you could have just posted and said: Thank you spraintz, your advice worked. " I made a smaller diameter wick and left that lil bit of room between the wick and wick hole then juice flow was not a problem."
Better yet, you could have just shown how your wick was actually pinched prior to taking spraintz's advice and then showing us what it looked like afterwards. That would have been meaningful.
Don't take my rant too harsh, I am just a bit p,ssed that you wasted my time. This was a bit too transparent on your intent.
And while I am at it, if you have problem with EliteVapors, there is a complaint forum here as well. Reviews of Suppliers - Negative
However, the problem was not your bliss, you did not fix the bliss, you fix your technique of putting a wick in a hole. This applies to all gennys and in fact all wicks. If you pinch a wick, even slightly, you will diminish its ability to wick. With a genny you also get surface adhesion, meaning your juice wants to stick the the wall of your wick hole, so it further reduces capillary flow through your SS mesh. Spraintz has posted his solution before and well as other great advice. (props to spraintz for all his real help and helping here, his posts actually provide detailed insightful information) A quick search of the ECF forum would have resolved your problem.
Apparently you are not a noob and not to be rude, but your six minutes video response was over kill. Who was this thread really for?
Videos are always great to see what you did, but really you could have just posted and said: Thank you spraintz, your advice worked. " I made a smaller diameter wick and left that lil bit of room between the wick and wick hole then juice flow was not a problem."
Better yet, you could have just shown how your wick was actually pinched prior to taking spraintz's advice and then showing us what it looked like afterwards. That would have been meaningful.
Don't take my rant too harsh, I am just a bit p,ssed that you wasted my time. This was a bit too transparent on your intent.
And while I am at it, if you have problem with EliteVapors, there is a complaint forum here as well. Reviews of Suppliers - Negative
Thank you spraintz, gdeal, doots for your advice and thanks FunkyVapes for posting up the video, made it easy to see that it was not just me having the problem.
I will be giving it a try this weekend.
I will be giving it a try this weekend.
O-rings.......
I had ordered these before they offered them on their site:
Silicone o-ring Size 014 Price for 50 pcs
They definitely help with the leaking. I did however add another o-ring between the cap and tank as seen here:
This creates a slight gap that some may not be happy with but I can assure you there is 100% no leaking this way (BliSS in the middle)
(Yes, this is a gratuitous showing off of my atomizers....)
I had ordered these before they offered them on their site:
Silicone o-ring Size 014 Price for 50 pcs
They definitely help with the leaking. I did however add another o-ring between the cap and tank as seen here:
This creates a slight gap that some may not be happy with but I can assure you there is 100% no leaking this way (BliSS in the middle)
(Yes, this is a gratuitous showing off of my atomizers....
)
I would assume a wick that leaves a bit of space in the wick hole would feed juice better.
When first working with my ZAP I was trying to fit wicks that fit perfectly in the hole and they wouldn't wick for anything...I made them a bit smaller to where it fit nicely in the hole but would slide up/down easily...those wicks seemed to feed juice a lot better.
Edit...woops watched the video
When first working with my ZAP I was trying to fit wicks that fit perfectly in the hole and they wouldn't wick for anything...I made them a bit smaller to where it fit nicely in the hole but would slide up/down easily...those wicks seemed to feed juice a lot better.
Edit...woops watched the video
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I'm only going to reply to your nonsense once, so don't feel obligated to comment or PM me...
I'm not sure where you get off coming into my thread and accusing me of - what it seems like - getting video views? Overkill? The video and thread was for me, to get my investment working properly, in a sub-forum for just such a mission. I hate the ambiguity of typing out a "problem" when a video explains it with pictures and audio - much more clear.
My wick wasn't pinched in the original video. In fact I used several wicks, dozens if you count what I did off camera. Yes there may have been nothing wrong with the Bliss and I didn't in fact "fix it", but when compared to the multitude of other genesis atomizers I have used, it performed so differently I assumed there was something wrong with it. In a sense, because it needs such special treatment it seemed broken.
I frequently use solid wicks, that hug the walls of the wick hole, because I am fond of the Petar K method, and the suckers wick vertically.
As for wasting your time, please feel free to avoid my future videos and discussions, I have no use for people like you.
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