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Started with kr8's. Moved on to 510's. Then learned the low res thing. Really want a HV mod bad. Right now just using an ego-t "B" tank LR and another ego 1000mah batt with a cisco spec LR 306 1.5 Ohm an I'm happy there so now that u know what I'm using here's where I need help from a veteran. The mod is just your power source right? So if I got a VV mod and spent the money on an array of different low and high voltage atty's (and some adapters), Wouldn't I be done with having to buy another mod? If this is all true what VV mods do u recommend? I really dig the provari. It's just a nasty mod. Any recommendations. Sorry for rambling.

I wish I just had a chance to be in Grimm's or igetcha's shoe for a day so I could shop test all the mods they have vaped. Lucky lips!
 

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Honestly, you are currently vaping my combination of choice, although I use 510 atties and drip. Variable voltage mods have not replaced that setup as my daily vape. What variable voltage has done is give me the option of using various cartomizers and getting the same result. The Provari is excellent and everything it's cracked up to be. The Infinity is quite a bit less expensive and still a great vv device. Cheaper still are some of the vv box mods and DIY options from Madvapes. My current favorite is a homemade tube mod (below) using the vv regulator kit from Madvapes. There are lots of options.

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ProVari is a fine VV PV, one of the best. But for overall technological features and battery life on a charge (21-35 hours) and doubling as a pass-through, I would chose the Darwin from nhaler.com. The Darwin is the only PV that senses the resistence change in the atty/carto as you vape and automatically adjusts the power level to maintain a consistent vaping experience.
 

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Honestly, you are currently vaping my combination of choice, although I use 510 atties and drip. Variable voltage mods have not replaced that setup as my daily vape. What variable voltage has done is give me the option of using various cartomizers and getting the same result. The Provari is excellent and everything it's cracked up to be. The Infinity is quite a bit less expensive and still a great vv device. Cheaper still are some of the vv box mods and DIY options from Madvapes. My current favorite is a homemade tube mod (below) using the vv regulator kit from Madvapes. There are lots of options.

That sounds awesome. I saw the kit your speaking about. My question is.... How did u add that kit?
 

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So if I got a VV mod and spent the money on an array of different low and high voltage atty's (and some adapters), Wouldn't I be done with having to buy another mod?

Yes. But you may still want to use your eGos if you want to vape something lighter/smaller/more concealable in public.

If this is all true what VV mods do u recommend?

I only own the ProVari and I would highly recommend it. If you buy a VV get one that is regulated (I know that the ProVari, Darwin, and at least one other is) so that the voltage doesn't change as the battery gets drained. And make sure to get AW IMR batteries unless you get the Darwin which has a long lasting laptop battery built in!

Good luck, you have a hard choice in front of you :)
 

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Ty digs. You were very helpful. The Darwin as far as function is pretty insane but I hate the looks. The provari just looks so much nicer. I wonder when we will see a vv mod with a color LCD touch screen. You k ow it's coming. It might be a little while but I don't think we have even scratched the surface on e cig mods yet. This is just the beginning.
 

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That sounds awesome. I saw the kit your speaking about. My question is.... How did u add that kit?

If you are asking how I got the kit into the tube, it was a process of trial and error. I don't have any machining access, so it's a matter of using whatever is lying around. I actually used the battery holder out of one of the flashlights to hold the regulator board and support the switch and potentiometer.
 

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I don't think you can go wrong with either a Darwin or a Provari. I've not tried the Provari yet, but based on all the information I've gathered, it's solid. There are little things that are different between the Darwin and Provari, size/shape not being taken into consideration. One of the things that the Darwin has over the Provari is a "change on the fly" capability. You can adjust the output to the atty during the vape to your liking. The Provari can't do that. Beyond that, it really is personal preference. The debate between the two pretty much boils down into a Ford vs. Chevy debate. There are solid Pros (lots) and Cons (very few) on each. Personally, the only reason I've not gotten a Provari yet is because I'm waiting on another mod that is in development that should fit what "I want" very nicely. In the meantime, I use my Darwin and REO Grand. My eGos are pretty much relegated to "show and tell" for prospective vapers and Q/A sessions with curious passersby. If you absolutely want something now, that changes things a little bit.
 

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I don't think you can go wrong with either a Darwin or a Provari. I've not tried the Provari yet, but based on all the information I've gathered, it's solid. There are little things that are different between the Darwin and Provari, size/shape not being taken into consideration. One of the things that the Darwin has over the Provari is a "change on the fly" capability. You can adjust the output to the atty during the vape to your liking. The Provari can't do that. Beyond that, it really is personal preference. The debate between the two pretty much boils down into a Ford vs. Chevy debate. There are solid Pros (lots) and Cons (very few) on each. Personally, the only reason I've not gotten a Provari yet is because I'm waiting on another mod that is in development that should fit what "I want" very nicely. In the meantime, I use my Darwin and REO Grand. My eGos are pretty much relegated to "show and tell" for prospective vapers and Q/A sessions with curious passersby. If you absolutely want something now, that changes things a little bit.

What "mod in development" are u waiting for? Please share. Is it a VV, a regulated, a HV. Any spoiler pics available.
 

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The mod is just your power source right? So if I got a VV mod and spent the money on an array of different low and high voltage atty's (and some adapters), Wouldn't I be done with having to buy another mod?

I think it's like when people ask me "It's cheaper than smoking, right?" about vaping and I have to say "Theoretically, yes" I did even break even for a day before I went and ordered my first mod which should arrive today. You may not NEED another mod, but are you going to be able to stop yourself? There's always something new out there, there's always something a little bit prettier, a little bit shinier, a little bit smaller/bigger/cooler/neater or just has that one little twist you might like to try. If I had to pick between the Provari and the Darwin, the user-replaceable battery would be the deciding factor for me, but I can't bring myself to spend that kind of money on a mod yet. From what I've read, you'll probably be happy with either.
 

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What "mod in development" are u waiting for? Please share. Is it a VV, a regulated, a HV. Any spoiler pics available.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...thread-jcmodtronics-products-coming-soon.html

I think it's like when people ask me "It's cheaper than smoking, right?" about vaping and I have to say "Theoretically, yes" I did even break even for a day before I went and ordered my first mod which should arrive today. You may not NEED another mod, but are you going to be able to stop yourself? There's always something new out there, there's always something a little bit prettier, a little bit shinier, a little bit smaller/bigger/cooler/neater or just has that one little twist you might like to try. If I had to pick between the Provari and the Darwin, the user-replaceable battery would be the deciding factor for me, but I can't bring myself to spend that kind of money on a mod yet. From what I've read, you'll probably be happy with either.

And here is where I have to throw up my "Stop the rhetoric wall". While saying the battery is user-replaceable, is applicable for both the Darwin and the Provari. Saying one can be accomplished in a matter of seconds, that's a different story. The battery that's in the Darwin has an extremely long service and cycle life. By comparison, I only charge my Darwin once every two days and I use it alot. I use my REO with an 18650 and it gets changed about daily or every two days. Considering that the Provari has an increasing circuit, it will go through the capacity a bit quicker. For a base comparison, I use the same type of batteries that are in the Darwin, in my RC hobbies under extremely grueling conditions. When I say grueling, I mean that I am pulling massive amounts of power out of the packs in a very short time period (couple of minutes) and then charging them back up again in another short period of time (15 or so minutes). Taking into account the amount of heat that is coming off during discharge and how much heat is generated during recharge, these circumstances significantly lower the life expectancy of those packs. Now, with that said, I have had my packs last me years, going on four years now. Now, with that being said, since the Darwin doesn't even come close to using the same amount of amperage that my packs do and since the Darwin isn't charged as fast, it's reasonable to conclude (and has been backed up by stress testing from LiPo manufacturers and independent evaluations) that the pack in the Darwin should last at least that amount of time, perhaps longer. As with all batteries, abuse (damaging the cells) or neglect (discharging and sitting or not using it), that life expectancy can be shortened. Finally, replacing the battery in the Darwin is as simple as taking off some screws and soldering; or the alternative of sending it back in for Evolv to do it.
 

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Whoa there, I'm sure the Darwin is a fine PV and I'm not telling anyone not to buy one. I'm saying, for ME, the ability to swap out a discharged battery for a charged one is an attractive one.

My main point, really, was "Can you really buy just one be all, end all mod and be done with mods?" For me, I think, the answer is no. YMMV.
 

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Whoa there, I'm sure the Darwin is a fine PV and I'm not telling anyone not to buy one. I'm saying, for ME, the ability to swap out a discharged battery for a charged one is an attractive one.

My main point, really, was "Can you really buy just one be all, end all mod and be done with mods?" For me, I think, the answer is no. YMMV.

Not trying to jump on you, that's why I phrased it the way I did, instead of the way I initially thought it in my head. The statement "user replaceable battery" has been thrown around quite a bit, the phrase without any clarification is false/misleading. Frankly, I've seen it enough in other threads and I can't stand misleading statements. Whether you intended your statement to be misleading or just a off-hand statement, I can't tell, and that's why I phrased my post the way I did instead of "jumping up and down and calling BS". I said, "Stop the rhetoric" to soften my initial (and persistent) opinion on the matter.

Yes, you are correct, there isn't "one mod to rule them all". As noted in my post, it pretty much boils down to preference between the two (or others). Battery replacement, falls into the pros and cons of both, equally, but for different reasons. It's both a plus and a negative for both of them. Bottom line, it really is a Ford vs Chevy thing, once you get past the wattage/adjust on the fly thing.
 
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