Hi, all. First time to be here, considering e-cigarettes, for my grandfather

[zoe0801]

Hello everyone, my name is zoe, I am 25 years old, my grandfather is 65 years old. I used to rarely go to the forum, but now want to know more about e-cigarettes here, so I can give some advice about e-cigs to my grandfather, who has been smoking for decades. Not sure if he can accept e-cigarettes, just want to try, maybe the damage of e-cigarettes is smaller.

Is it necessary to start with the pod , or the low-power mod for a new vaper?

 

[Daniel Forsyth]

Welcome to ECF Zoe
It is not 'necessary' to choose any unit for someone starting out vaping. It's more so what will suit the individual vaper

 

[FlyerTom]

 

[somdcomputerguy]

Welcome to ECF, zoe.

 

[Ace80s]

I commend you on wanting to help your grandfather.

I would recommend simple but effective. No need to get too fancy for a beginner. At the same time if too simple it may not be as effective. Do your research and remember we are here to help.

 

[stratus.vaping]

I started a couple of my grown up kids on the road to giving up cigs by giving them pod kits and a variety of liquids. Not 100% succesful yet but getting them there, giving up cigs is a road to travel, with twists and turns.

I'm over 65 and a geek, if your Grandpa isn't at all technical, think simple!

Great idea, he will thank you for it

 

[Izan]

Hello everyone, my name is zoe, I am 25 years old, my grandfather is 65 years old. I used to rarely go to the forum, but now want to know more about e-cigarettes here, so I can give some advice about e-cigs to my grandfather, who has been smoking for decades. Not sure if he can accept e-cigarettes, just want to try, maybe the damage of e-cigarettes is smaller.

Is it necessary to start with the pod , or the low-power mod for a new vaper?

Hi and welcome,
Get him a Juul or two to have around the house.
He may not use them unless you are sitting in front of him, but plant the seed.
When he can vape anywhere/anytime, he might just see the advantages of not smoking.
The best you can hope for, unless you have "buy in" from gramps, is a couple, few less cigarettes each day.

maybe the damage of e-cigarettes is smaller

Yes, at least 95% less harmful.
Clearing up some myths around e-cigarettes - Public health matters

HTH
I

 

[YorkMan]

Welcome, that is fantastic and I wish you the best of luck. Does he want to try vaping?

 

[Baditude]

...want to know more about e-cigarettes here, so I can give some advice about e-cigs to my grandfather, who has been smoking for decades. Not sure if he can accept e-cigarettes, just want to try, maybe the damage of e-cigarettes is smaller.

Is it necessary to start with the pod , or the low-power mod for a new vaper?

There are some e-cigarette setups that are more suited to beginners. There are some that you should probably avoid altogether due to them being less effective for their intended purpose than most other setups ... namely the "ciga-likes" or the setups that "look like a cigarette".

Most beginners don't need a 100 watt or higher battery device, but it won't hurt anything to have all that extra power. A battery device that has at least 20 watts power will easily run any beginner's MTL (mouth-to-lung) tank.

That brings up an important point. Learn the vaping technical terms, such as "MTL" or "sub-ohm" or "DTL" (direct-to-lung). Vaping can be like learning a new language, and can be as easy or as difficult as you make it.

I've written a blog for the beginner vaper to make it easier to begin vaping. Which system and gear and how they differ from one another. A collection of terminology and their definitions. If you ever have a question or two, there are plenty of people here on ECF more than willing to help you.

Good Starter Setups for a Beginner Vaper

 

[charlie1465]

Welcome to the friendly bunch

Only this to add....try and ask your grandfather how he smokes and what he gets out of it. Knowing the answer to those sort of questions may be the difference in getting him to like vaping in the initial days.

If you come back here with more information I will (or other goodly people) gladly suggest something to start with.

It's never too late

 

[Georgia Boy]

Zoe Welcome Aboard and it's great that you want to help your Grandfather.

I would say it all depends on what type of person he is as to where you start. I am fairly new and started off with a pod, unfortunately a Novo, which didn't last long. I have moved on from there fairly quickly but still have a pod system, an Aspire AVP, which I absolutely love, that wouldn't be a bad place to start. They are relatively cheap about $21 here in the USA. If he's really a 'techy' type of guy you/he may want to start somewhere else, can you take him to a local vape shop? Some stores even have liquids you can try out, that way you'll get something he at least likes the look/feel of.

I would say do your research read and watch as much as you/he can. There are some great videos on You Tube, you may get hooked Come back here and ask as many questions as you need to, there are so many great people, with an enormous amount of knowledge that want to help.

 

[Baditude]

Might as well be honest here. Vaping isn't exactly like smoking, its a bit different. Smoking vs Vaping Differences

But vaping can be a healthier/safer alternative to smoking.

• It provides a method of getting nicotine into your system without the harmful effects of combustion (smoke and toxin byproducts) that lead to cancer. Nicotine by itself is not believed to be all that harmful in the quantities we use while vaping, at least no more harmful than caffeine.
• It simulates the "hand to mouth' behavior of smoking, which is part of the addiction.
• It allows inhaling and exhaling a gaseous substance like smoking does, another part of the addiction. This is where things like nicotine gum and the patch fail when trying to quit smoking.

Your grandfather will likely desire his e-cig "taste" like a cigarette. That's not likely to happen if we are going to be completely honest here. That taste comes from ashes, smoke, toxins, and burning dried tobacco leaves. E-liquid flavors primarily come from concentrated food flavoring agents often used for cooking or baking. There's not many foods that taste like a burning cigarette. Why You Don't Need an E-Liquid that Tastes Like Cigarettes

A Word on Vaping Technique

Smoking is easy. All you need is a cigarette and something to light it. Vaping requires a combination of items working together as one unit:

1. charged batteries; its electronic, right? So you need spare charged batteries for when the first battery becomes drained. You can't vape with a dead battery.
2. heating coils to vaporize e-liquid. These are often propietary to the tank being used, and must be replaced somewhat frequently (every 2 - 4 weeks). Good idea to keep spare coils around.
3. e-liquid. Comes in different flavors and different nicotine strengths. You can't vape if you run out of e-liquid.
4. backup setup. If one of the components breaks down, you can't vape, so its worthwhile to have a complete backup system so you won't be tempted to buy a pack of cigarettes until you can get the necessary replacements.
5. Most of us here were able to quit smoking by vaping. Most of us are now using a vape setup far different than the one we stopped smoking with. Once we have experience with different setups, we're able to find a setup that suits us best as an individual vaper. That is why there are so many choices available on the market.
6. It costs a bit of money to get started vaping. But if you factor in how much you spend on cigarettes per month, once you have the gear the subsequent costs of vaping will be approximately 1/3 what it cost to smoke. Only replacing the e-liquid and coils are necessary once you have a couple of vape setups.

 

[Beamslider]

Spend some quality time with your grand father. Take out to lunch then take him to a vape store to look over possibilities. Find something easy to deal with. He can expand later as he get used to vaping and decides what works best for him

 

[HigherStateD]

Greetings and salutations!

You've gotten all the advice I can think of.

So I will just wish you luck in your endeavors.

 

[Diver9543]

Hello and welcome to ECF. You will get loads of information to share in the forum. Does your grandfather have access to the internet? I ask because one thing you can do is show him this site and research some of the benefits of vaping together. I was 60 when I ventured into the wonderful world of vaping and really enjoy the friendships I have made on here. There are a couple of sites in here dedicated to our beloved seasoned citizens:
Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Seven
Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 5
The front porch hasn't had a lot of use but some of us do visit there to keep it going. Good luck and happy vaping.

 

[vaper1960]

Good advice so far. About e-liquids... there are many flavors and different strengths of nicotine. Many people start with a "tobacco" flavor, but it doesn't taste like a cigarette (nothing will) but I still started with that. I smoke a pack of cigs a day so needed strong nicotine at frist... 18 mg. This is very important (if someone tells 6 mg is enough they are a fool) Don't push the vaping issue, and don't criticize him when he still smokes. Be patient.

 

[vapdivrr]

I think a few questions to ask is, how much does he smoke , perhaps the brand? Is he a little tech savvy and does he enjoy kind of surfing the net...if he is in no way into tech and can care less about the net, the simplest device might be best like a pod, but if he is the other way, perhaps a small mod and a mtl tank . Most who start pods will move up very shortly after, so it's nice to start with a mod and tank if that's the kind of person he is..

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[Baditude]

Don't push the vaping issue, and don't criticize him when he still smokes. Be patient.

This. Many people dual use (smoke and vape) at first.

We have a saying on this forum. Its not how many cigarettes you smoke a day that is important, its how many you DIDN'T smoke that's important.

 

[MJCSD]

Hello and welcome to ecf

 

[stols001]

Welcome. I know this isn't popular advice (and honestly, as far as ease of use, getting a good dose of nicotine and etc, I sort of think Izan has it going on here. The Juul is about as simple as you can get when quitting and I'm guessing your grandfather's nicotine tolerance is fairly high.)

But if you don't go that route, I have found that asking/showing can be better.... If you think your grandfather would be at all into it. There is a certain amount of "buy in" when your grandfather sees for himself.

I would visit vape stores in your area as you read up here. IF you think you can find one that is knowledgeable, has some different options, and is willing to take the time to show your grandfather what is available, that might be good (if he would go) and it would help with flavors too. You want a shop that won't overwhelm him but just show him a few good options in different categories.

Otherwise, for simplicity and high nic to help with transitioning, the Juul is where it is at. Given your grandfather's long history of smoking he STILL might save money, or at least not lose money with the Juul. There kind of is a reason for their market share.

Anna