Hi from Australia:)

[MiriG07]

Just posting to say hello and ask a question regarding a video I watched via the forum.
I joined a couple of weeks ago ( roughly), and even though I've posted a couple of times I haven't yet said "Hello" properly, so "Hello fellow Vapers!"
I'm a relatively new Vaper however I have a stater kit from vaping Mad which is a UK company that sells to Australia.
We have varying laws for different states.
I live in West Australia where it's illegal to sell e-cigs but not illegal to buy and use.
The selection at vaping Mad is limited and even though it was an incredibly considerate gift from my son ( b/c I'm a smoker of 40 years,smoking about 2 1\2 packs per day and have emphysema AND have smoked rolling tobacco for past 5 years!), I'm finding my kit just doesnt give me the hit or taste I need to help me stop smoking.
It contains 12.5 mg tobacco but having read through various threads on various topics here ( and watched some excellent videos), I would really like to buy a particular set up that was in one of the videos.
I cant recall who made the video but he compared 3 set ups' and the one he found to be the best for him sounded just like what I'm after!
From memory, I'm pretty sure it was the Kanger(?) Protank Mini with i-taste VV e-liquid.
Does this sound correct?
If so, where could I purchase these that would ship to WA ( West Australia)?
I'm sorry, I should have found the video and watched it again before posting but I have lost the link:/
Thank you ( in advance), for any help you can give.
Desperately vaping MiriG
PS: I keep going back to 'rollies' as my kit just isn't doing it for me.

 

[RosaJ]

I can't answer your question, but want to welcome you to ECF and to congratulate you on having quit smoking. Someone may jump in and help you with your questions.

Vape on!

 

[dcfluegel]

howdy! and welcome!

I am going to tag @Krisma - she may be able to offer some insight

 

[nmackan]

My friend welcome. You are far away quitting smoking with 12 mg/ml nicotine it is for sure. For a 2.5 packs user you should begin at least 24 mg/ml Later on the travel you can decrease.
Device is 20% responsible while liquid is 80%
If you find a liquid you like with enough nic level you can quit smoking with the most primitive device. That is why you should look for better devices afterwards.
Still if you intend to buy a new set you should get subtank mini (Beginning with 1.2 ohm head) and an appropriate mod. When you are settled back come again and we will inform you farther details.
Dont get offense my saying so this is for your own good. less you know about your beginning level better.

 

[djsvapour]

Welcome. @MiriG07

Yes, the situation in Australia is difficult. Some of the leading worldwide "brand shops" are also taking advantage of Australian people wanting to get vaping.
I personally find it distasteful and immoral that these brands then expect loyalty and repeat business from European and US vapers.
I boycott those brands. I find it sad so many people do not. We are in this together, it's not a race to millionaire entrepreneur status; the capitalist dream, at the expense of fellow smokers, as it were.

Anyway... enough on that subject.

12.5 mg liquid could be plenty in a high power device and not enough in a low power device.
The tobacco companies are selling up to 48.0 mg liquid, as their products are low-vapour, low satisfaction junk.

...it's incredible to think. Yesterday, I was vaping 1.5 mg liquid at 50 watts. That is 32 times less nicotine per ml than a product sold by Mr Tobacco and his $5,000 a year plastic sticks.

Lots to learn, lots to get right for success.

If you really want to get the lowdown on "rip-off" vendors and what you can and can't get hold of in Australia, go on the Aussie Vapers Forum....

Good luck.

 

[Krisma]

howdy! and welcome!

I am going to tag @Krisma - she may be able to offer some insight

I am here. Let me see what info is required.

There are a lot of vaping sites in Australia that sell and ship to WA. The only hitch is that you must order your nic from OS
i personally buy my gear from all over the place but I am quite settled in my vaping.

If you are just starting I would suggest buying a kit from vapeking.com.au or houseofvape.com.au good solid vape sites. Not the cheapest but very reliable and good service. Nicotine and a good range of premixed eliquid a at vapeshop.com.nz or straight nicotine base from hiliq .

If buying from the states look at options that you can use austpost shopmate.

Fasttech has authentic entry level gear.

That's a bit rambly

 

[dcfluegel]

I am here. Let me see what info is required.

There are a lot of vaping sites in Australia that sell and ship to WA. The only hitch is that you must order your nic from OS
i personally buy my gear from all over the place but I am quite settled in my vaping.

If you are just starting I would suggest buying a kit from vapeking.com.au or houseofvape.com.au good solid vape sites. Not the cheapest but very reliable and good service. Nicotine and a good range of premixed eliquid a at vapeshop.com.nz or straight nicotine base from hiliq .

If buying from the states look at options that you can use austpost shopmate.

Fasttech has authentic entry level gear.

That's a bit rambly

You so rock

Sent from Tapavapatalk

 

[Krisma]

You so rock

Sent from Tapavapatalk

It's a bit tough I would normally suggest our local forum where you could see the vendor lists and get a bit of a broader set of vapers helping each other out. It would not be right to link it but I would be reinventing the wheel trying to answer it all here. There is also a large group of WA vapers that meet every so often that you can get some face to face help.

 

[suprtrkr]

I am not familiar with your area, so I'll keep my mouth shut about what you can do. I will welcome you to the board, and reiterate the suggestion that if you are vaping low power and mouth to lung, you probably need 24mg liquid. Regarding the gear, the iTazte VV series-- I think they're up to version 4 now-- is top quality gear, but low powered. I believe it tops out at 11 watts. It works just fine if low power is where you want to be, but I found I needed more to get off as I was two packs a day. A possible replacement would be an iStick, if you can get one. I believe these are called the "Curve" in the UK. They come in various sizes; a 20 watt model, which I don't like much, as well as 30 and 40 watts, the latter with Temp Control. Any of them would offer more power than the VV, if perhaps not Innokin's reputation. The pro-tank is a good tank, but now old tech and behind the times. I think I have a couple of them laying around (message me and I will post them to you if I can find them and you can't get them any other way.) A better choice, in my opinion, would be the Kanger Subtank, a more modern piece by the same manufacturer. It is far more flexible as it can be set up with tall coils for low power mouth-to-lung, or low value coils for higher power direct lung inhales, and can be rebuilt so you don't have to buy coils at all, given the difficulty of your supply situation. As a final word, it is perfectly possible to make your own juices if you can get nicotine.

 

[LouisLeBeau]

It's a bit tough I would normally suggest our local forum where you could see the vendor lists and get a bit of a broader set of vapers helping each other out. It would not be right to link it but I would be reinventing the wheel trying to answer it all here. There is also a large group of WA vapers that meet every so often that you can get some face to face help.

Hai Krisma!!

DC is right, you SO rock! Way to help a new Vaper! Very considerate of you to not post a link to another forum, but considering the laws and all, and your specific difficulties in Australia, I am sure ECF would not mind you sending her a private conversation with the info! All just lookin out for each other, right?

Oh, and good morning to you too, Brother. Perma-Howdy, but still nice to say "WAKE UP!!"

 

[Tommy-Chi]

Welcome to ECF!

You definitely need 18mg of nicotine or more for now. Just go slow with the increases, and DON'T toss out the lower nic purchased. Vape it...

 

[stylemessiah]

Sydney here

A bit better sitch as we actually have bricks and mortar stores (though with a recent change a couple of weeks ago, b&m's have to cover their stock, like any store that sells cigs do). For instance i live 20 minutes from one of the few bricks and mortars (and online) in NSW: http://steamecigs.com.au

I also use Home | House of Vape quite a bit, and the guy who runs it Ben is a great guy

The only thing we cant buy here is nicotine, but everything else can be bought in person or online.

So the best bet for the OP is to try finding out what gear he needs and enter into vapeassist.com

This will give him price comparison as if by magic on available gear on the larger aussie vaping retailers. Better to buy locally and avoid the sometimes extortionate postage from overseas, and yes im talking about you, america

For example for the Kanger Pro Tank Mini 3, if thats indeed the gear you were after, here a direct link to vapeassist with that search term: VapeAssist
the results will show all gear related to that and the Mini 3 can apparently be had for as little as $7 (factor in adding the usual $8 or so postage)

The itaste vv you refer to has nothing to do with liquid, but is probably this: iTaste VV 3.0 | Vaporizer - Innokin

You may also want to consider the new Innokin Endura (only pricing ive seen since its new and only available form one shop here is AUD$34), made by the same people, its just been released and may be a good kit for you as a beginner: ENDURA | Vaporizer - Innokin

Pbusardo, a leading vape gear reviewer, did a review on it last week and specifically targetted his review, for the first time (usually the reviews are for already vaping people), to smokers. So id suggest you give that video a watch, it is long at 1 hour 15 minutes, but may give you some info that may lead you to decide if the Endura will suit you



You are probably aware you can get all sorts of fancy box mods etc, but you dont need to if just starting out, and trying it.

Innokin i have to say made the first gear i bought when i started, though it was a bit fancier, but i can only say it was relaible and got me off the smokes, which was the main thing! Ive moved on to things im not going to talk about and sidetrack you with as a newbie

I can also suggest you get a backup setup, as you never know when your gear might have a conniption and fail, and you dont want to go backwards to that awful burnt stinky stuff Or you may want 2 so you can have two different flavours or double the battery life

Which brings me to my next best bit of advice: You dont have to have fancy flavours in your nicotine, it was a bit of a revelation to me when someone in an aussie forum asked me if i had tried unflavoured. I was like "what, you dont have to have flavouring in it?". I think i assumed it was nasty tasting without flavouring. Let me tell you, i now use unflavoured like 99% of the time. Cheapest way to vape. I still buy the odd flavour (as a super concentrate usually), but unflavoured makes life easy, and as i said, cheap...i estimate my daily cost of vaping is like AUD$0.50 (i only get through about 5ml a day). As always your mileage may vary

Mixing your own juice is the way to go long term, and cheaper thsan buying premade juices. I will tell you from experience that you can spend $$ buying premade jucies that you will toss down the loo within 30 minutes of tryng it for the forst time. As a newbie i had at one point 12 different flavours in the first month i started and i could only stand 3 of them And then unflavoured came along...literally got me off the flavour merry go around and helped me stay on course.

The nic is of course going to need to come from overseas, you might want to check on the local aussie forums (not sure im allowed to post other forums url's on here?) to see what the consensus is on where to buy from, i bought mine form myfreedomsmokes for example, bought a litre (enough to last about 2 years or more) for AUD$110 and 3 months in it was bad, heard others getting dead batches from them in australia too. Your mileage may vary. I ended up going with health cabin next and that wasnt much better...started to think they foist all their old stock on Aussies who arent likely to send it back due to postage. I got nothing from myfreedomsmokes, no offer to replace....they did remove my complaint ticket though form my account, so its like it never happend.... im just about to try another vendor, fingers crossed. So check with the local forums...if you type aussie vaping forums into google, you'll find them

The PG/VG can be boought locally, once again you can type PG or VG into VapeAssist and take your pick, and of course those retailers on vapeasisst will also sell flavours, and pretty much all the gear, besides the nicotine, you'll ever need...with local postage

Any help i can give, let me know via PM

Been vaping 10 and a bit months, after 34 years smoking....couldnt pay me to smoke now, no, seriously.

Sad that you dont have any bricks and mortars stores where you are, for me it was extremely helpful to be able to go into the store and get good product advice and try this and that. And become friends (which happened quicker than with any other people ive known in my life too) with the staff and others...in fact we're having a xmas meet at my local bricks and mortar tomorrow night

I wish the same could happen to you, to have access to a local store, there are people working in advocacy to try and get some sanity regarding vaping and the disparate laws in Australia...lets hope it pays off

 

[djsvapour]

Fasttech has authentic entry level gear.

That's a bit rambly

Rambly is fine. You are a star.

Fasttech also sell some authentic mid-range and advanced kit, some of which is suitable for all vapers.

( I know that's not what you meant... but it's worth saying, for the O.P.)

 

[Krisma]

@stylemessiah gives some great advice. There are a gazillion options available so the important thing is to pick a vendor who will hold your hand and guide you through some of the issues you may encounter. Even after 4 years of vaping I am still gobsmacked at the gear available these days.

Many of the China vendors are having big sales where you can pick up spares and if you stay one version behind you can buy clearance gear cheaply.

I was a 50-60 a day smoker and I found vaping 12mg more than satisfying but do suggest that you have some stronger mixes at the ready if you need it. Vaping worked for me.

If you Google aussievapers forum you will find the local communities.

 

[Coxy]

G'day mirig and all. Im a Victorian. Not by choice. Im in the RAAF so this is where they sent me. I just wanted to tell my story which might assist new vapers/quiters.
I went to bali wuth the family and they bought me the ego set with tobacco and coffee 18 mg oil. I smoke alot and really didn't touch it it till i got sick of the coughing. Then when totally. I mean totally out of tobacco i thought ok. Lets give it a go. I couldn't seem to get my smoke hit so i bought a more power full battety set up. I got the adpire cv or whatever cos i was sick of changing batteries and scared i would have no power and have to by smokes.
So this worked ok for a week or 2.
Then i still wasn't getting the hit i needed so i bought some nicotine tobacco liquid from my freedom smokes. It was 36mg and 500ml. I thought there is 1 years supply so fantastic. I found it too strong so bought 500ml of vg from vapeking in Aust to water it down. This worked well. Then the battery life was my next concern. I needed to have a unit which would last a full day so i bought the joytech evic-vt and a nautilus tank. Now i have battery power for over a day and enough oil for over a day and cos i use 1.8 ohm coils i get the normal smoking experience. It costs less. Heaps less. Tastes good. Gives me my hit. I dont stink. And im good to go.
If i could have my time again i would have bought nicotine oil from the states and a heap of 10ml flavour samples from Aust and made my own oil.
As for the tank and battery setup. From what I've read. You will never have the best setup. There will always be something better.
Beat the tobacco first.
Then find what works for you. Do your research and ask questions. Tell people how you like. Or liked to smoke and then weigh up their responses. Otherwise you will spend more money than Paker......and still not be satisfied. ..
Just my experience.

 

[stylemessiah]

G'day mirig and all. Im a Victorian. Not by choice. Im in the RAAF so this is where they sent me. I just wanted to tell my story which might assist new vapers/quiters.
I went to bali wuth the family and they bought me the ego set with tobacco and coffee 18 mg oil. I smoke alot and really didn't touch it it till i got sick of the coughing. Then when totally. I mean totally out of tobacco i thought ok. Lets give it a go. I couldn't seem to get my smoke hit so i bought a more power full battety set up. I got the adpire cv or whatever cos i was sick of changing batteries and scared i would have no power and have to by smokes.
So this worked ok for a week or 2.
Then i still wasn't getting the hit i needed so i bought some nicotine tobacco liquid from my freedom smokes. It was 36mg and 500ml. I thought there is 1 years supply so fantastic. I found it too strong so bought 500ml of vg from vapeking in Aust to water it down. This worked well. Then the battery life was my next concern. I needed to have a unit which would last a full day so i bought the joytech evic-vt and a nautilus tank. Now i have battery power for over a day and enough oil for over a day and cos i use 1.8 ohm coils i get the normal smoking experience. It costs less. Heaps less. Tastes good. Gives me my hit. I dont stink. And im good to go.
If i could have my time again i would have bought nicotine oil from the states and a heap of 10ml flavour samples from Aust and made my own oil.
As for the tank and battery setup. From what I've read. You will never have the best setup. There will always be something better.
Beat the tobacco first.
Then find what works for you. Do your research and ask questions. Tell people how you like. Or liked to smoke and then weigh up their responses. Otherwise you will spend more money than Paker......and still not be satisfied. ..
Just my experience.

Excactly

Ill forgive that youre a Victorian, some people have no choice where theyre sent I do hope that youre not really a Tasmanian Im originally from most of my life in QLD, now i have to survive down here amongst the mexicans (geographical reference, not a slight on the country). I have no idea what you call Victorians...pretentious?

People have been known to quit on very simple gear, but as youll learn vaping is very personal and everyones different.

I was at a vape meet today with someone who started vaping in 2007, and some here will remember the very short list of choices that were around back then....he didnt successfully fully stop dual using till 2009...

I got my first convert, one of my close friends who was a 30+ year smoker like me and was smoking a ton of chop chop (really the worst possible thing to ever smoke people, vile crap), a VT and a Silo with 1.8ohm Nautilus coils and he gave up the smokes the first day (like i did, first button press). Then he wanted a backup kit after a month, i showed him and gave him a go on my fancier temp control mods and subohm tanks, and he was like "ill just get the same again, i like the battery life and those coils work for me". When i quit, he was my primary target for conversion, so im glad he transitioned as easy as i did. So yup, you dont have to go fancy to give up the smokes and you wont necessarily go on to bonkers gear like running temp controlled 0.09ohm coils

Start off slow and find your happy place, then stay there. Ive gone beyond my current gear and settings and come back down to it. You dont need to feel pressured to go out and get the latest gear. Its not a competition.