High Temp Flavors?

[SnakeFarm]

Long time DIYer new to mechanicals. I'm building .5 ohm coils for my RDAs and I've arrived at the following through trial and error: 10 mg (ish) nicotine, 70/30 pg|vg.

Bummer is that some of my favorite flavors just don't work in this range; Coconut, Gingerbread, Earl Grey tea. Either taste awful, chokey, or both. Only two I've found that work are blueberry and peach. Peach works wonders!

Anybody have recommendations for flavors that hold up to heavy VG and high temp?

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I suggest experimenting with wicking & airflow then type & size of coil & possibly wire gauge before giving up on flavors you enjoy.

 

[p7willm]

If you want flavor try a higher ohm coil. If you want vapor then you have to give up some of the flavor. There is no way to maximize both now.

 

[beckdg]

If your temperature is that far off you're doing it wrong. The point of lower ohms is more surface area at the same temperature. All your juices should work just fine. Though nuances will be different because parameters have changed. For example if you get a nice throat hit from a particular juice at 8 watts, 40 watts will likely knock your socks off. The massive vapor will just deliver too much.

 

[SnakeFarm]

Um, how could I be "doing it wrong" for three or for flavors, but what I'm doing is ok for two (peach and blueberry?)

I'm dialing it in. I usually vape 50/50 30mg on VWs, but I'm finding that 7-10 is tolerable and rings the bell at sub-ohm just fine. I think the VG masks flavor, so I've doubled the flavor additive. Summary is: Double the flavor, quarter the nic, and crank up the VG to 70%. Thing is, bluberry and peach give me great flavor, huge fluffy white clouds and a nicotine delivery not unlike that of a stout cigar. The only variable being flavor, I still don't understand why gingerbread causes a choking (not "throat hit;" I like "throat hit.") sensation and butterscotch taste like dirty socks smell. Using the exact same flavorings I use for my normal all-day vapes (TFA I think).

RIght now, I'm very happy with the blueberry, so maybe I'll just stick with that and Peach for sub-ohm dripping.

 

[Nightshard]

I can suggest not using lemon flavor or any other flavor with citric acid, since it doesn't react well at high temperatures.

 

[Ryedan]

Long time DIYer new to mechanicals. I'm building .5 ohm coils for my RDAs and I've arrived at the following through trial and error: 10 mg (ish) nicotine, 70/30 pg|vg.

Bummer is that some of my favorite flavors just don't work in this range; Coconut, Gingerbread, Earl Grey tea. Either taste awful, chokey, or both. Only two I've found that work are blueberry and peach. Peach works wonders!

Anybody have recommendations for flavors that hold up to heavy VG and high temp?

I vape at 0.4-0.5 ohms using 27 gauge Kanthal and dual coils mostly in a Cyclone RDA on a Reo. I DIY my juices at zero nic, 60% VG and 4% distilled water though I've been as high as 90% VG. I also have a Trident RDA and a Mutation X. The Cyclone has a very small air chamber and using two 2.5mm air holes gives me a very flavorful and cool vape. Opening up the air holes to 3.25mm reduces the flavor a bit but increases the vapor production a bit. The Trident is a mid-range RDA that I have set up with two 3 mm air holes. Flavor is less than the Cyclone but vapor production is better. The Mutation X is a cloud chasing RDA with 18 air holes and AFC. I'm still experimenting with that at lower ohms, but I already know that flavor is going to be reduced in exchange for massive vapor. I'm currently running it with dual coils at 0.25 ohms and it is a cooler vape than the Cyclone at 0.5 ohms.

I've found the percentage of VG in the range I've used does not make much difference in flavor. The biggest things affecting flavor are the devices used and how they are set up with air flow and wire gauge vs the power applied. I never really played around much with single coils so I can't tell you the difference compared to dual coils. I'm also using rayon wicks which increases flavor a bit and has great wicking ability.

Obviously, with any atty set up at 0.5 ohms or less I'm taking lung hits, not mouth to lung.

I think the VG masks flavor, so I've doubled the flavor additive. Summary is: Double the flavor, quarter the nic, and crank up the VG to 70%. Thing is, bluberry and peach give me great flavor, huge fluffy white clouds and a nicotine delivery not unlike that of a stout cigar. The only variable being flavor, I still don't understand why gingerbread causes a choking (not "throat hit;" I like "throat hit.") sensation and butterscotch taste like dirty socks smell. Using the exact same flavorings I use for my normal all-day vapes (TFA I think).

When I started making juice I experimented with each new flavor in 50/50 juice at flavor concentrations of 4%, 6%, 8%, 10%, 12% to get a feel for how they vaped. If I felt the need I also tried 2% (sometimes less) and 14%. What I found was that if a flavorant tasted best at say 6%, it would taste just slightly different at 8% and then change flavor completely or lose flavor strength at say 9% and 10% could be a disaster. It gets even more interesting when you mix multiple flavors.

IMO doubling the flavoring as a rule is a major problem. I would not expect that to work with too many flavorings and get quite ugly with a lot of them.

Good luck with it

 

[SirLoki]

"Double the flavor" yeah right there is most likely your problem. Adding that much flavoring is probably going right past the max point and blasting into the muted taste range. Just going from 50/50 to 70/30 shouldn't require adjusting the flavor percentage anyway. The muting of flavors from high VG shouldn't start till you get over 70/30. I mix my e-juice at 6mg 70vg 30pg and still only use the regular percents I did before I went to RDA's. My build is 0.8 ohm 12 wrap nano dual coils with 28g. The change from 32 or 30g to 28g did change the flavor slightly but that is from the wire and nothing you can do for it

 

[SnakeFarm]

I can suggest not using lemon flavor or any other flavor with citric acid, since it doesn't react well at high temperatures.

Thanks, I was just about to try a lemon flavor. It's starting to look like it really depends on the flavor itself. Menthol and tart flavors seem to get stronger while sweets and bakery flavors either disappear or turn into the creature from the black lagoon.