I have seen people here talking about 20w and 30w vaping. May I assume this is for specialty equipment or sub-ohm? I have a Provari and istick which I combine with aerotanks or nautilus (1.5-2.5 ohms). If I go above 4.5V/10W liquid tastes burnt or just has no taste. Am I missing something? Just dropped the ciggies yesterday and really want a stab at leaving them behind entirely, so the most I can make of this the better.
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Hi Eryger, and welcome to the forum. I don't have your answers, just wanted to say hello. I'm sure someone will be along to help....good luck 
Thank you Katmar - I have been reading on the site for 6 months, and it's such a helpful crowd, so decided to join. Suspect I'll need all the help I can get
Thank you Katmar - I have been reading on the site for 6 months, and it's such a helpful crowd, so decided to join. Suspect I'll need all the help I can get
Read the manual for the battery (mod) and learn how to switch the device from voltage to wattage mode. In wattage mode you have more control of your vaping experience.
Then move the watts down to where you like the vape.
There will be people telling you how to convert volts into watts and vice versa but better to put the mod in wattage mode and fine tune the wattage to what you like.
Higher power requires two key ingredients -
1 - Efficient wicking capable of delivering enough liquid to prevent burning. Either rayon or cotton are reasonable choices.
2 - Sufficient air flow to aid in keeping the coil below the temperatures that prevent burning.
Another factor is the physical size of the coil. Usually, but certainly not always, a coil with a larger internal diameter is used. This allows for more wick to be available to supply enough liquid to permit higher power levels.
A "trick" to higher power is using dual, triple or quad coil atomizers. If your atomizer has two coils, assuming they are identical coils, and you vape it at twenty watts, each coil is only using ten watts. The same principle applies to a triple coil at thirty watts.
Remember that power is a function of voltage (pressure), current (quantity) and resistance to them. Google Ohms Law and you will see the complete relationship which will help you understand how it all actually works.
1 - Efficient wicking capable of delivering enough liquid to prevent burning. Either rayon or cotton are reasonable choices.
2 - Sufficient air flow to aid in keeping the coil below the temperatures that prevent burning.
Another factor is the physical size of the coil. Usually, but certainly not always, a coil with a larger internal diameter is used. This allows for more wick to be available to supply enough liquid to permit higher power levels.
A "trick" to higher power is using dual, triple or quad coil atomizers. If your atomizer has two coils, assuming they are identical coils, and you vape it at twenty watts, each coil is only using ten watts. The same principle applies to a triple coil at thirty watts.
Remember that power is a function of voltage (pressure), current (quantity) and resistance to them. Google Ohms Law and you will see the complete relationship which will help you understand how it all actually works.
Thanks Two_Bears. My Provary is volts only, and I am using istick in wattage mode. I guess it's more that I am curious as anything above 10W either tastes foul or looses all taste to me, so was thinking it must be mainly for people building their own coils.
Ah - awsum140. Very helful. I will open the airflow (I normally use the small holes) and see how that goes. Not really ready for doing my own coils etc, but want to try as much as I can with my current setup.
One other comment, usually, but again not always, people who run higher power take so-called direct or lung hits versus mouth to lung hits. That also allows significantly more air flow.
Another point is personal preference. I am using a temperature controlled, dual coil, device at thirty watts. I have "experimented" and it will easily go to seventy watts with no burnt taste and without temperature protection being activated. It's just too hot for my taste and the thirty watt setting gives me the flavor, vapor level and vapor temperature that I prefer. Keep in mind that I have modified the air flow of the atomizer, a Big Fogger, to 3mm through the deck and atomizer body to get the "draw" I like as well.
Another point is personal preference. I am using a temperature controlled, dual coil, device at thirty watts. I have "experimented" and it will easily go to seventy watts with no burnt taste and without temperature protection being activated. It's just too hot for my taste and the thirty watt setting gives me the flavor, vapor level and vapor temperature that I prefer. Keep in mind that I have modified the air flow of the atomizer, a Big Fogger, to 3mm through the deck and atomizer body to get the "draw" I like as well.
Don't follow the hype.
If you are happy with small holes, mouth to lung and low wattage, go for it. Welcome to vaping and do what works for you.
If you are happy with small holes, mouth to lung and low wattage, go for it. Welcome to vaping and do what works for you.
I use two RTAs meaning I build my own coils and wick them.
My Goblin Mini I use a 2.5 mm coil .86 ohms at 15-17.5 watts.
My Kayfun Nano I use a 2 mm coil 1.03 ohms at 12.5-15 watts.
The Goblin has better airflow so I go up in wattage.
howdy - and welcome!
and ultimately, it really is about what works for you
personally, i do the 'so-called' direct lung hitting and tend to run sub ohm (.3ohm-.5ohm) coils in the 25-90 watt range, depending on the actual set up (as stated above, air flow and wicking play a huge role in this) and it works for me
you are in the right place - great community here
and ultimately, it really is about what works for you
personally, i do the 'so-called' direct lung hitting and tend to run sub ohm (.3ohm-.5ohm) coils in the 25-90 watt range, depending on the actual set up (as stated above, air flow and wicking play a huge role in this) and it works for me
you are in the right place - great community here
On the nautilus I usually vape @ 12 watts, many go higher. With an aerotank on the old dual coils at 9 watts, with the new vocc coils I can get up to 12 watts.
It's strange you're getting burnt taste on the nautilus at 10 watts, are you letting the atomiser get properly primed before vaping? Fill the tank and let it sit for half an hour or more on a new atomiser.
Another possible explanation might be vg heavy e juice, it tends not to wick as well and could mean burning taste at higher watts....I tend to use 50/50 pg/vg juices in the nautilus.
Vaping at 20 to 30 watts usually involves subohming or drippers. Drippers tend to be very large wicking surfaces and can take the high watts. Subohming the same with wicks and the lower resistance atomisers can take higher watts.
As you can see there is lots of factors, airflow comes into play as well. Me I'm happy at 10-14 watts mouth to lung with similar kit to you, tried subohming and not for me, uses too much juice and isn't my style of vaping.
It's strange you're getting burnt taste on the nautilus at 10 watts, are you letting the atomiser get properly primed before vaping? Fill the tank and let it sit for half an hour or more on a new atomiser.
Another possible explanation might be vg heavy e juice, it tends not to wick as well and could mean burning taste at higher watts....I tend to use 50/50 pg/vg juices in the nautilus.
Vaping at 20 to 30 watts usually involves subohming or drippers. Drippers tend to be very large wicking surfaces and can take the high watts. Subohming the same with wicks and the lower resistance atomisers can take higher watts.
As you can see there is lots of factors, airflow comes into play as well. Me I'm happy at 10-14 watts mouth to lung with similar kit to you, tried subohming and not for me, uses too much juice and isn't my style of vaping.
You are a basic tootle puffer (low wattage, less airflow, higher ohms). There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Three years ago we were all tootle puffers because, well, that's about all there was. Some folks remain tootle puffers (like me), or move on to higher wattage subohm vaping. It's completely a personal preference thing.
Greetings and welcome to the forum.
Depending on the rated resistance, the Nautilus coils are rated at: (1.6ohms 5v max, 1.8ohms 6vmax). I would not worry about TRYING to hit the maximum as you'll likely get burnt taste at anything over 3/4 the maximum rating.
Before I use a prebuilt atomizer/coil, I'll first check the airflow BEFORE I do anything by placing ether end in my mouth and blowing on it. Some factory coils can be a bit more clogged than others right out of the box.
Next I'll squirt juice down into the top until it is FILLED and leaking out the 510 connection end. Just set it on a paper towel for a 5-10min and inspect the 4 side holes, if they appear wet then your coil is primed and ready for installation - just put one end in your mouth and cover the other end with a paper towel and blow out the excess juice before installing.
While I have a handful of Nautilus tanks and used 50/50 to %100VG in them, I personally did not like using wattage mode with them and preferred using voltage mode. (given that the coils are rated in VOLTS and not watts) On the 1.8ohm coils I rarely could venture higher than 5V otherwise I'd be getting a burnt taste.
The atomizers/coils are fairly easy to rebuild. Instead of purchasing more prebuilts just to use my older tanks I rebuild them.
Depending on the rated resistance, the Nautilus coils are rated at: (1.6ohms 5v max, 1.8ohms 6vmax). I would not worry about TRYING to hit the maximum as you'll likely get burnt taste at anything over 3/4 the maximum rating.
Before I use a prebuilt atomizer/coil, I'll first check the airflow BEFORE I do anything by placing ether end in my mouth and blowing on it. Some factory coils can be a bit more clogged than others right out of the box.
Next I'll squirt juice down into the top until it is FILLED and leaking out the 510 connection end. Just set it on a paper towel for a 5-10min and inspect the 4 side holes, if they appear wet then your coil is primed and ready for installation - just put one end in your mouth and cover the other end with a paper towel and blow out the excess juice before installing.
While I have a handful of Nautilus tanks and used 50/50 to %100VG in them, I personally did not like using wattage mode with them and preferred using voltage mode. (given that the coils are rated in VOLTS and not watts) On the 1.8ohm coils I rarely could venture higher than 5V otherwise I'd be getting a burnt taste.
The atomizers/coils are fairly easy to rebuild. Instead of purchasing more prebuilts just to use my older tanks I rebuild them.
If you get into RDAs you'll start to need the higher wattage. This is due to a cast increase in airflow and more saturation on the cotton and coils. In my experience, the biggest reason that you don't need so much power with tanks is because of the restricted airflow and the inability for the wick to keep up with liquid use at higher powers. I use to think 15 watts was insane. Now I often vape at a warm 150 watts.
I am a 3 years vaper. In some place I had asked what high watts give people. I still vape 7 watts (Lowest my deck allows) whatever ohmage my coil be. And yes I enjoy and while enjoying I dont see any reason to make my batteries last shorter and for the danger of decharging china made batteries.
But I dont judge anyone pleasure is personal. But for you being a new vaper just go ahead with what makes you happy.
But I dont judge anyone pleasure is personal. But for you being a new vaper just go ahead with what makes you happy.
Thanks all - great responses. I think I am starting to get the picture. I guess I basically will stick with what I am doing until such a time as I feel tempted on the rebuilding thing. It took me absolutely ages to get a comfortable routine/setup that didn't involve stupid amounts of gurgling/leaking/spitting, so think I'll just enjoy what I have for now. But at least I now understand the basics. You folks are so helpful!
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