highest ejuice standards??

[Gauntlgrym]

so i have been wondering what companies are know for extremly high standards when it comes to ejuice??
*please don't base your answers on just what you think tastes the best*

for example, halo. they seem to have VERY high standards.
so, are there any other companies that have standards greater than, or at least equal to halo?

here are some examples of Halo standards:
1)american made (important for me)
2)uses only Pharmaceutical and United States Pharmacopeia (USP) grade ingredients
3)has a certificate of analysis for all ingredients that go into the ejuice
4)All formula ingredients are FDA and FEMA approved
5)flavorings are provided by a FEMA GRAS facility
6)The production of the nicotine base is done within proper laboratory facilities, and conducted by trained chemists, ensuring that proper procedures are always followed
7)ejuice nicotine levels are carefully monitored and randomly tested for quality and concentration
8)bottles are shipped not only with an expiration date but with Lot Numbers as well
9)not only is the finished eliquid stored under tightly controlled climate conditions, but the base ingredients are as well.

 

[stevegmu]

Johnson Creek.
I have no doubt Halo and Johnson Creek will have no problem getting a license/certificate should one be required for e-juice vendors in the future.

 

[lulu836]

Send an email to the companies you are interested in. Ninety-eight percent will respond to some if not most of your questions. Also Google is your friend. Have a blessed day.

 

[RelativeBewt]

MEMBERS | AEMSA

AEMSA is the American E-Liquid Manufacturing Standards Association, the above link might help.

 

[Gauntlgrym]

thanks for the list. it makes me lean towards ECBlend and Mountian Oak Vapors even more.

 

[Thunderball]

I would like to know where the base liquids come from. Actually where they were manufactured. Whether it matters or not, cant get any straight answer for this. Maybe I am asking people that sold shoes last month and now tghey are selling juices. What got me thinking about it is a juice maker/vendor told me that only three other companies other than her/him buy their base liquids from Dow chemical. I guess this is the PG and VG ? I don't know, but I would like to know more about this. The FDA is a joke that is not elected and is made up of folks from the largest manufacturers in the US. They have been killing us for years with their crap labeling and FDA crap labels. What is my point ? I don't really have a precise point, just food for thought. There are a lot of folks on this forum a whole lot smarter than I am and I would like some more info that does not come from some association.
I have heard this one sooo many times ....... Pharmaceutical and United States Pharmacopeia (USP) grade ingredients.... great ..fantastic, but where does it come from ? It could come from a village in Pakistan and be Pharmaceutical and United States Pharmacopeia (USP) grade ingredients. Ill bet you most of it isn't coming from the good ole USA. Prove me wrong. I would really sleep better if someone did.

 

[Thunderball]

Sorry to sound negative above, but the original poster sounds like a plant from Halo and I didn't care for my 12 samples I ordered a few months ago........ pretty much.

 

[Cig-Nature]

Buy a DIY (do it your self kit)

 

[Thrasher]

Pharmaceutical and United States Pharmacopeia (USP) grade ingredients

just so you know this is a packaging standard as in what type of clean room. it has nothing to do with the purity of the actual products. other then saying things like it was sterile when we got it and we made sure its sterile now.

most of the better DIY places like essential depot and wizard labs will gladly show you purity reports as well as source and MSDS information.

personally i dont buy liquid for 15 bucks i can make for 1.90 lol

 

[NotMantis]

fda does not approve every ingredient if you have nicotine in your liquid

 

[Thunderball]

just so you know this is a packaging standard as in what type of clean room. it has nothing to do with the purity of the actual products. other then saying things like it was sterile when we got it and we made sure its sterile now.

most of the better DIY places like essential depot and wizard labs will gladly show you purity reports as well as source and MSDS information.

personally i dont buy liquid for 15 bucks i can make for 1.90 lol

There you go !! Smart folks on here like I said. Thats great info that I didn't know and bet 90% or more of the folks on here didn't know. Thank you. Keep that kind of info coming.

 

[Thunderball]

fda does not approve every ingredient if you have nicotine in your liquid

Maybe I shouldnt have used the FDA as an example. I was really trying to say that if the FDA is a joke, then how can I trust someone like the AEMSA ? Just saying...... I clicked the link and read through some of it. (Thanks for sharing RelativeBewt)

 

[Jethead]

I'd trust some toothless hillbilly that hates big tobacco to make good juice for me than most big businesses with licenses approved by the flipping FDA.

The FDA is the biggest joke on the face of the earth. Bought and paid for.

 

[NotMantis]

but they are mshaw and osha approved i was just busting your balls bout fda lol

 

[Gauntlgrym]

Sorry to sound negative above, but the original poster sounds like a plant from Halo and I didn't care for my 12 samples I ordered a few months ago........ pretty much.

first off....thx for derailing the thread.....i appreciate it this isn't about if people believe in the FDA/AEMSA or not!

second, i'm no "halo plant" they are just an ejuice i like, and i'm trying to find more ejucies i like.
sorry for wanting standards in the vapor that goes into my lungs.
maybe some choose to trust some hillbilly in a barn, making juice right next to pig feces, but i don't.

i'm sorry, but if a company can't even take the time/effort to make a proper label, then what makes you think they are gonna take the time/effort to make sure your juice is a safe as possible???

 

[Gauntlgrym]

just so you know this is a packaging standard as in what type of clean room. it has nothing to do with the purity of the actual products. other then saying things like it was sterile when we got it and we made sure its sterile now.

yeah??......don't you want your ejuice ingredients from a sterile/clean enviornment??
not really seeing the point you are tying to make by pointing that out?? are you trying to say a sterile enviornment doesn't matter to you??

anyways, that's cool that you diy. maybe i will someday.

*back on topic*

so, any other companies out there with high standards??

 

[stevegmu]

yeah??......don't you want your ejuice ingredients from a sterile/clean enviornment??
not really seeing the point you are tying to make by pointing that out?? are you trying to say a sterile enviornment doesn't matter to you??

anyways, that's cool that you diy. maybe i will someday.

*back on topic*

so, any other companies out there with high standards??

I find it odd many cry about all the poisons the tobacco companies added to cigarettes, yet will vaporize and inhale anything, as long as the price is right. Now that I quit smoking, the last thing I want to do is inhale mystery juice.

 

[Caridwen]

yeah??......don't you want your ejuice ingredients from a sterile/clean enviornment??
not really seeing the point you are tying to make by pointing that out?? are you trying to say a sterile enviornment doesn't matter to you??

anyways, that's cool that you diy. maybe i will someday.

*back on topic*

so, any other companies out there with high standards??

In order to get the answers you want- best for you to do your own research.

 

[Heavyrocker]

I love Halo,TRIBECA and PRIME 15.

 

[SouthernBliss]

6)The production of the nicotine base is done within proper laboratory facilities, and conducted by trained chemists, ensuring that proper procedures are always followed

Pretty sure I read that most of the nicotine sold in the US is made by DOW. Then it is sold to companies like Wizard labs that have labs with the proper ventilation etc that cut it down further to be packaged and sold. The bottom line is that US pharmaceutical grade is US pharmaceutical grade no matter who does the processing. The only potential difference is if it is made from leaves or scraps. Then the question is does it matter after all that processing and don't they then end up with the same designation of pharmaceutical quality.

Personally I am perfectly comfortable with people that buy from places like Wizard labs at lower concentrations (100 ml) so that they don't have to invest half a mil in an extraction lab or processing lab. I'm confident that flavorings and so forth are more of an indication of quality and high standards than having a nic extraction plant. Flavorings are more a risk additive than the nic currently available through in the US as long as it is pharmaceutical grade.

It sounds like you prefer to deal with a big corporation but not everyone thinks that is a good thing. I prefer to know that the person(s) doing the e liquid have a very personal stake in doing the best and that know that their reputation and hence income rides on doing what they do well.