I just got the itaste MVP and wow this box one is awesome. I love the feel and the vape from it. I like this one much better than the itaste svd I got last week. I guess the only thing I am bummed about is that it does not have a replaceable battery. The VTR looks a lot bigger and I have sort of small hands. But ya, I can see I am gonna be a box person for sure. Now to try and find one around the same size that works well and I can use my 18650's in it 