home made "sticker" or "bender" or whatchamacallit :)

[turbocad6]

hey guys, don't know how many have seen svoemesto's sticker, it's a base that allows the battery tube to mount along side the head of the mod, reducing it's size by almost half and turning it into a side by side setup like the sidewinder. I've wanted one ever since I've seen it but had a lot of trouble finding one so I decided to build my own. I cut a piece off of the end of a spare 18500 tube and used a collector tank base on the battery tube side and welded this to a stainless steel base. I then used brass screws and a brass bar for my contacts. here are a few shots, it's not finished yet, still may round off some of the sharp edges and still need to polish out the burnt marks from welding but it's working great and now it feels great in my hand too


svoemestos version is a little different from this, well, here's my version



went from this













to this












I still need to polish the base, might round off the sharp edges a bit, it's not 100% finished but it works. it looks burnt from the welding. I welded the 2 connections and then used a brass bar and brass screws for the contacts. it works really good but I think I just toasted my wick


not the best welds but they'll hold this is all 316L stainless steel

















still need to make a lower cap right now I've got a piece of rubber shoved in there to isolate it. I really like this design. it may not be so impressive because as I said, svoemesto already does make something like this, but I really like this design and may expand on it a bit for other mods. already thinking about doing something like this with my poldiac. a poldiac sidewinder, now that would be cool

 

[BobC]

Man Turbo, I want your tool box

 

[Innocuous]

it works with VV/VW tubes nicely, but I have yet to see anyone convert a telescoping, bottom-button mech to place the atty right in that base-plate.

It's beautiful work.

 

[turbocad6]

I'm really liking this form factor. I like that I can put it down and it actually stands up without tipping over and rolling away, and I like that most of the mod is in my fists grip when I hold it. I def want to expand on this form factor with a few more of my mods

tonight I played with a few different combo's and took some pictures so I can step back and see what they look like and show you what kind of things I have in mind as possibilities for this type of bender setup


first, here's what I had in mind as a possibility for the poldiac. of course I could use other atty's here too since this one will keep the 510 connection but the kayfun mini in long mode is a perfect fit and it happens to be one of the best vapes out there so def worthy of this build. def a good mech for a side by side design












then a few other ideas crossed my mind. the poldiac with it's separate switch would be almost ideal for this dna20 conversion. you have to imagine a nicely machined matching high polished base of course, not so square, pretty rounded off and sleek






then I started to look at my other mods. I have a frost 20mm mod that I've never been too crazy about as it sits, I have all the battery tube sizes with it too because I actually bought it to customize it, so I came up with building this as a dna20 mod too. I think I really like this one





















then, I have another mod that I just about never use because it's a bit weak which is my evic. it is good paired with that gp atty though because it works well enough at lower power levels. a conversion like this makes it look really cool I think, this one could be cool to just leave in the center console plugged into a usb charger so it's always being recharged and always ready to go as an emergency backup for my normal backup can sit for months, but always ready to go in an emergency










and a few more misc shots. also my vinci is in a few of these pics, it's a side by side tube bottom feeder, same basic form factor but bottom feed like the reo. this is actually similar to what I originally had in mind to build the frost 20 into when I first bought it, which is a custom side by side tube bottom feeder. also had a design I considered of combining the poldiac and the bod by leo tube into a pretty unique side by side bottom feeder too... to many ideas I think











now the biggest decision is which to actually build. I'm really liking the frost 20 dna20 mod, seems like such a natural thing to do, also thinking the poldiac dna20 would be really cool, but then again the poldiac is such an awesome mech with it's magnetic switch if anything deserves to remain a mech it's the poldiac. I guess the evic could always wait for a rainy day with nothing else to do

 

[BobC]

Make them all, they all would look & work great with the DNA20, sell the ones you don't want (to me

 

[bapgood]

Very nice turbocad!



I also love the form factor

My kicked side by side mod








I especially like the Poldiac layout as I drew some inspiration from the Poldiac on a little project I'm working on....still wip on the design

 

[turbocad6]

hey bap, that looks great. what did you use as the lower threaded metal receiver in there? a spare battery tube? what about the other end? on the poldiac I can't find anything that the battery tube will screw into. I can use a spare battery tube to receive the switch part but I think I'll have to weld the main battery tube itself to my base. won't be a problem because I can unscrew the end cap to replace the battery but I wish I had a few spare poldiac tubes. I guess if I dna it then it won't even matter as it'll never go back to being a regular tube mod at that point anyway. the svoemesto in my first post is not altered at all and can return to it's skyscraper profile without the base no problem but the poldiac will wind up being irreversible. not that big of a deal I guess

really like your new design, what material are you thinking of making it out of?

 

[bapgood]

hey bap, that looks great. what did you use as the lower threaded metal receiver in there? a spare battery tube? what about the other end? on the poldiac I can't find anything that the battery tube will screw into. I can use a spare battery tube to receive the switch part but I think I'll have to weld the main battery tube itself to my base. won't be a problem because I can unscrew the end cap to replace the battery but I wish I had a few spare poldiac tubes. I guess if I dna it then it won't even matter as it'll never go back to being a regular tube mod at that point anyway. the svoemesto in my first post is not altered at all and can return to it's skyscraper profile without the base no problem but the poldiac will wind up being irreversible. not that big of a deal I guess

really like your new design, what material are you thinking of making it out of?

On my wood side by side....all the ss was turned on my 7x10 mini lathe.

On the DNA mod I was thinking hard coat anodized 7075 aluminum for the body, ss for the base plate and buttons, the battery tube/cap could be the same as the body or ss or etc. The way its shown is for an 18650, so an 18490 would be a little smaller and 18350 would just be cap for the body. I don't know it I will mess with interchangeable batteries, I might just make the battery tube side one piece with a cap for 18650....because that is all I really use.

 

[turbocad6]

so how did you thread it? don't tell me on the lathe

 

[bapgood]

on the poldiac I can't find anything that the battery tube will screw into. I can use a spare battery tube to receive the switch part but I think I'll have to weld the main battery tube itself to my base. won't be a problem because I can unscrew the end cap to replace the battery but I wish I had a few spare poldiac tubes.

Do you have any thread pitch gauges or know what the threads are? You could probably just tap the base for the Poldiac tube once you figured out the threading. http://www.victornet.com/ has a pretty good selection of tap sizes and I have had good luck with the ones I have bought from them.

You could always send me your Poldiac and I could measure the threads

 

[turbocad6]

HA, I don't have any good thread gages man, wish I did. any suggestions besides sending all my mods to you?

 

[bapgood]

so how did you thread it? don't tell me on the lathe

The battery tube is only threaded for the switch its not removable from the base. But on the threads I used a tap, but tapped manually on my lathe to keep everything straight and square. I used to 20mm x 1.5 tap and it was pita!!! It would have been easier to thread it using the lathe to cut the threads. A finer pitch wouldn't have been so bad to tap, like 20mm x 1....which is what mods like vela and paps use I believe.

 

[turbocad6]

thanks for that machinery supplier website bro, you just blew my budget all the way through march with that one

 

[bapgood]

HA, I don't have any good thread gages man, wish I did. any suggestions besides sending all my mods to you?

These are the ones I bought....there are cheaper ones but I like Starrett's quality....you probably only need the metric for most pv mods

Starrett 156M Screw Pitch Gage With Locking Device, 0.25-2.5 Threads Per Millimeter, 28 Leaves: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

Starrett 6 Screw Pitch Gage With Locking Device, 4-42 Threads Per Inch, 30 Leaves: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

 

[turbocad6]

cool, thanks for that, going to order these tonight. when you measure the dia, how do you measure that, the outermost thread surface?

 

[turbocad6]

wish I could thread on my lathe man, it's an old thing from the 50's and doesn't know anything about metric at all

 

[bapgood]

cool, thanks for that, going to order these tonight. when you measure the dia, how do you measure that, the outermost thread surface?

Yeah and most threads measure a little under....so if it was 20mm the threads usually measure around 19.85mm or so...Its pretty obvious until you get down to 1.4/1.6/1.8/2.....lol....I made some hybrid adapters for the sigelei 19 and it used a random thread pitch.

Depending on the gears you have and the lead screw pitch you can get pretty dang close....close enough to work....Here is a gear change calculator that may help.

Change Gears - LittleMachineShop.com

 

[bapgood]

Oh and one last thing....here is spread sheet I made for metric threads....but it also gives the dims in inch which is kind of handy sometimes.

Just click on the red box in the top left and select the thread pitch from the list.

View attachment Metric_Thread.xlsx

 

[turbocad6]

yeah, i know I've done some thread measuring on much smaller stuff and there it gets pretty difficult to actually measure the diameter, but your right on the larger stuff it winds up being close enough to be obvious now that I think about it

honestly I don't really know much about actually threading with my lathe... I mean I know the theory and I have a dial attachment on the southbend that's used for threading, but I've never actually mounted it or played with that. all of my tap-die sets seem to be not fine enough for these pv's. I might revisit threading on my lathe and see what I can do but I was under the impression that if the lathe is not set up for metric threads then I absolutely can't do it, never really considered that close may be close enough. if I could thread then the possibilities open up a lot for stuff like this. for example, on the evic I was thinking that I may just have to buy a ss battery tube just to get the threads for the head but the evic really isn't worth spending any more on. if I can thread it myself this will help a lot

 

[bapgood]

You will want to read this Metric Threading