Honest Cartomizer Review

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Snarkyone

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How many of you have looked into the cartomizers, read the literature and hype on the sites and whatnot and still ended up asking yourself "How much do the cartridge's really, really compare to a pack of cigarettes?" Everyone's ad say they last for the same amount of puffs as a pack of cigarettes. I think they are basing this on their 200-300 puffs per cartridge vs 10 or so puff per single cigarette multiplied by 20 cigarettes per pack. Doing the math like that and sure it makes sense. Now look around at any other human being and see if your breathing pattern and volume is exactly like theirs, I am going to take a stab in the dark and say no it is not, and therein lies the problem with stating that it is equal to a pack of tobacco cigarettes.

That said, I put a cartridge on at 4:00pm on Friday afternoon and used the KR as I normally would my other models. It lasted until roughly 4:00pm the next day. There were a couple of times I grabbed a different model for a couple of hits but only a couple of times, not enough to really impact this test. I was surprised that it lasted the full 24 hours without trying to monitor my hits or make it last longer. I wanted a real life application of the unit to base my findings on, not optimal conditions, but average conditions. Needless to say I was happy with the initial results. In that same time I would have refilled a 510 more times than I care to count, or dripped directly to it either way it would have been a lot of playing around instead of a lot of vaping.

The battery life is hard to say at this point since I have yet to run it down but the PCC I have with my KR unit will handle any issues that come up when I am out and about. The batteries can be substituted with some others like the 901 I have been told but I don't have a 901 to see but I don't doubt it one bit. The taste is a bit different at first but once you get a little bit in you then it is just fine. It may seem on the sweet side but I think that could have just been the kind of juice I had ordered with it to check out.

The biggest thing I have some issues with the KR808D-1 model is that it the draw is super light. It's like sucking on a straw, the airflow is too much. The were smart enough to realize that it was needed but they didn't put a lot of thought into tightening up the draw a little with a narrowing slot or smaller holes. The setup now is just too light, you have to suck on it now about 3-4 times to get a decent hit which of course cuts into the juice and cutting down the cigarettes per cartridge number as well. What I did at first was wrap my index finger around the holes where the cart and the battery come together and that helped a little. I then just cut a 1/8" wide band from the "cart condom" and slid that down the filter and over the holes and now it hits much much better. You need to leave a couple of holes open but it does the trick. One other thing I do that I imagine others might have done is I also cut the closed end of the cart condom off so I have about a 1/2" or a little bigger band to stick on the very end of the cart where our lips go so that it is softer than the hard plastic that they are made out of. Having that little bit of give seems to help with the seal between the lips and the cart and it gives a it a little bit more of a comfortable feel in the mouth.

I have since talked over these differences berween a GreenCig and it's my understanding that the GreenCig hits a bit more like a tobacco cigarette since the air flow is a lot different on the GreenCig. If this is not the case can someone who has a GreenCig kit pipe up before I order the GreenCig kit? I would hate to order one only to find that it's pretty much the same as the KR model on the draw. I know the carts are usable between the two models if you have the notched battery. I was told the air flow on the KR is closed in the battery area and when I was testing it is, and that the GreenCig battery airflow does happen in there unlike in the KR thus resulting in a draw more like a tobacco cigarette.

Overall depending on the persons smoking habits I would not hesitate to recommend the KR808D-1 to the right type of person that it would be a good fit for. I think if I had gotten that first I still would have stuck with it since the taste is very good and the vapor is warmer going in than with the other models. This would make a good introduction to vaping and it is a good choice for your go to main E-Cig if your like me and have a few different models that you use throughout the day. Hope someone finds this helpful. I know how daunting it can be trying to find the right one for you and not feel ripped off in the process. One thing to keep in mind is that if you don't like your kit you can always sell it here or trade it here with someone and get a different one to try.
 
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Scottbee

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Good analysis Snarky.

This brings up the proverbial query. The KR carto holds what... maybe 20 drops? And it lasted you a full day. And in that same time, you (just like me) would have probably put twice that amount of liquid in our 510. So where does that "wasted" 510 liquid go? Is the KR that much more efficient... or is it actually producing less vapor and we don't necessarily notice it?

Intriguing.. eh?
 

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Just ordered the Kr808d-1 I may do the same to mine if it seems too light. I was never a heavy smoker anyway, usually a pack every 2 to 3 days. Good to know the modification though.

You can also just plug one of the small holes in the battery (on the sides of the thread relief). Looks a bit more "sanitary".
 

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I have since talked over these differences berween a GreenCig and it's my understanding that the GreenCig hits a bit more like a tobacco cigarette since the air flow is a lot different on the GreenCig. If this is not the case can someone who has a GreenCig kit pipe up before I order the GreenCig kit? I would hate to order one only to find that it's pretty much the same as the KR model on the draw. I know the carts are usable between the two models if you have the notched battery. I was told the air flow on the KR is closed in the battery area and when I was testing it is, and that the GreenCig battery airflow does happen in there unlike in the KR thus resulting in a draw more like a tobacco cigarette.

Ok Questions.. how many holes are in your battery? Are they auto or manual? I am guessing its and auto because the manuals have a harder draw (the battery bottom is flush and has no notch as the auto).. but I could be wrong.
Did you know you can use the green cig carts on the auto Kr808 battery? Only if the battery has notch in the bottom.
The Green Cig cart to me is much much smoother and def like a draw on an anaolg.
I do not have a green cig battery but will be getting one shortly because I want to see the difference with the battery.
I like the carts on my Kr808 because I can twist the cart and get a different draw.. lighter or harder. The vapor on these carts is unbelievable..flavor is very smooth and there is a throat hit for sure but not as "harsh" as the kr808 carts.. to me they are too harsh!
I started purchasing green carts back in July and the carts LAST without burning! I do need to pull a July cart apart and look to see..the atty is not dead yet.. they are like energizer batteries! I killed 2 and that was because I was trying to Mod them.
I love dripping on these carts.. at night I add about 3-5 drops.. roll and let sit overnight, in the morning they are ready to go.. I also drip on them during the day sometimes to switch out a flavor and also because I dont want it to burn dry.
I cannot say enough good things about the greencig carts.. I LOVE them.. hence (my name) I use Nhaler's HV juice on them and if I need more Nic I add some of his unflavored 48 and never a burnt taste!
I am also not sure about the airflow being closed on the kr808.. this is new to me. I have also used on my 901 with an adapter from vapor country..but still like the kr808 better.. more airflow so you will not like that. I do like my kr808 carts better on the 901 with adapter for this very reason.. it calmed the harshness of the kr808 for me.
I think you will be very very happy with the greencig carts!
Drew at Nhaler actually has some being made with his Lung juice and other flavors. Greencig is very "green"... another reason I made the switch to them.
Lori B
 

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I agree with NeedVapor! I love the greencig cartomizers!! You can adjust the draw. I don't like a lot of air and no pull when I draw and the green cig lets me adjust it. I use them on a regular kr8081-d battery...well most of them. I got a couple of new batteries yesterday and they will not work on them. The new batteries do not have a notch on them, and for some reason they won't work. :( But they do work on all the older batteries that have a notch in them. The vapor is amazing and the taste is good!
:) :) :)
 

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Yes, I was aware of all of these things. I spent the time doing the research, buying the products and becoming as much an expert on them as I can. I have talked with Drew and other vendors way too much for their taste I imagine because I ask the questions before I buy. Drew has been great really above and beyond the norm, not that the others have sucked but you have to acknowledge superior effort and service.

I had already made up my mind to order some GreenCig carts to play with when I ordered the KR kit, I just held off on it because I wanted to try the KR carts with it first so I could see a difference if there was one which I now know there will be. The GreenCig kit is next up to bat in the order....

The KR cart is pretty well done in it's own right. You can take it apart with the minimum of effort and a pair of tweezers. The inner design is just about perfect, it's how they all should have been done from the start if you ask me, so now I am really amped to see the difference in the GreenCig cart and the KR cart.

I put in something like 15 drops in the cart that I refilled. I was also given a cart of the cognac flavor from V4L with my order of carts that I got from them. I must say if you are a fan of cognac or love the taste of a cigar dipped in cognac then this is the cart for you! Personally I can't stand the stuff, it taste god awful to me, but then again so does cognac. It taste just like cognac if that's any help. I don't mean to sound like an ingrate since it was cool of them to throw that in, that's why I say if you like cognac then you won't be disappointed if you order some.

That's odd my new one arrived and it does have the notch in it. The draw can be slightly adjusted on the KR but as I am sure you have found that if you tighten it too much it will keep it locked on which is not such a good thing, lol! I agree with the HV juice too that stuff is just too good for mortals really. If I could I would order a 55 gal drum of the stuff so I would always have some around. I swear I could put it on my pancakes in the morning instead of syrup and be a happy camper.
 
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