Hoog, I have a Problem...

[Harley]

I tried to pm, But you are not receiving Pm's @ this time it says....

I have been vaping your Dekang RY4 for close to 18 months now, I usually order 8, 50 ml bottles @ a time. 4 24mg and 4 0 mg and mix them together to get 12 mg,,, As i said i have been doing this for quite awhile, My last order came and i just put it away because i had about a 100 ml already mixed.. This weekend i mixed two bottles together and the 24 looked pink instead of amber which i thought was a little weird.. Then i loaded up a cartomizer and WOW what is this stuff, This is NOT RY4.... It tastes nothing like dekang RY4.... What has changed ??? Or is this stuff Mislabeled ????? The Bottles i used to get were white, These are clear... And the 0 mg says Dekang RY4 But on the top of the label it says TOP VAPOR.

I also ordered a 60 ml. Bottle of USA Mix 11mg. It is clear instead of the amber color as it usually is, It also says Top Vapor on it and has Very little flavor... Do you still have the TRUE dekang juices, I cannot vape this stuff. I need some help here !!!!!!!!!!!

Harley

 

[Sjkader]

Harley,
Not to step on anyones toes here. Just trying to help. Check your last order and see if you ordered the custom china mix. Those come in the topvapor bottles. Im sure Hoogie will answer. Just an idea that popped into my head.

 

[lexi60]

Harley.
I have the same problem. The only thing I've vaped in the last 3 months it RY4 from here. Same old white bottle. great stuff.
The last 2 I ordered, clear bottles with pink juice. Nasty, I have a 100Ml of it sitting there hoping it may change. but it hasnt in almost 2 weeks.

 

[fray]

Same here. It has more of a maple taste to me. I don't mind the stuff too much so I kept it.

 

[Harley]

Harley,
Not to step on anyones toes here. Just trying to help. Check your last order and see if you ordered the custom china mix. Those come in the topvapor bottles. Im sure Hoogie will answer. Just an idea that popped into my head.

kader,,, I called up there and David told me it was all the same juice so i ordered it... Well the proof is in the pudding, This is not the same stuff, Someone has dropped the ball some where.. As i said before i usually order the china e liquid,,, NOT the custom china e liquid or the top vapor.. And as i said the bottles were always white NOT clear... And it definetly NEVER tasted like this... I just want the old stuff back.. 50 White bottles, liquid amber in color and taste like RY4.....

 

[Sjkader]

kader,,, I called up there and David told me it was all the same juice so i ordered it... Well the proof is in the pudding, This is not the same stuff, Someone has dropped the ball some where.. As i said before i usually order the china e liquid,,, NOT the custom china e liquid or the top vapor.. And as i said the bottles were always white NOT clear... And it definetly NEVER tasted like this...

I have ordered a custom china mix also and had no luck with it. it has been sitting for a few weeks now. took the lid off and the top smells like it should, but inside still has a chemical smell. so now im open air steeping to see if that helps.

 

[Harley]

Harley.
I have the same problem. The only thing I've vaped in the last 3 months it RY4 from here. Same old white bottle. great stuff.
The last 2 I ordered, clear bottles with pink juice. Nasty, I have a 100Ml of it sitting there hoping it may change. but it hasnt in almost 2 weeks.

lexi it sounds like you have the same batch that i have i believe i ordered this 2-3 weeks ago....Pink juice is nasty

 

[Harley]

I have ordered a custom china mix also and had no luck with it. it has been sitting for a few weeks now. took the lid off and the top smells like it should, but inside still has a chemical smell. so now im open air steeping to see if that helps.

Yep i have had the lid off this steeping 100ml.since Saturday. i tried it last night before i posted this thread to Hoogie but it still tastes nasty....

 

[Sjkader]

Yep i have had the lid off this steeping 100ml.since Saturday. i tried it last night before i posted this thread to Hoogie but it still tastes nasty....

I hope you the best. Did you submit a ticket?

 

[Harley]

I hope you the best. Did you submit a ticket?

I have never had any luck with the ticket system,That is why i posted this to Hoogie.....

 

[Sjkader]

I have not seen him post in the last few days. Im sure he will respond once he gets on

 

[Harley]

I hope so,,,, We'll see, I hope this is all just a mix up in some way, I hope the recipe has not changed......

 

[hoogie76]

Hi folks, been busy as crap the last few days, sorry for the delayed response.. The ry4 we have is all dekang but it did come in different bottles this time.. All of it is right from Boge, which is Dekang's hardware company.. I haven't vaped from this batch so will grab a bottle and check it out..

hoog

 

[retird]

Had the same issue with Custom China 11mg USA Mix.....no flavor and came in Top bottles....submitted a ticket......was told that the juice is Dekang and that MV only adds the Nic to it.....clear in color and no flavor.....was given a partial credit for the juice.....

Been using genuine Dekang USA Mix for 8 months, so I have a good idea of what it should taste like and the Custom China is not that taste.....

MV's newsletter this time talks about the Custom China juice and how it saves on having to stock a large inventory of juice strengths........but IMO the Custom China juice is not 100% Dekang, since MV is adding ingredients to it......

Long story short......no more Custom China juice for me......only 100% Dekang from MV for me.......

Hope they fix your issues.......as long as MV has good customer service and 100% Dekang I will be a happy customer.....

 

[retird]

5-25-2011 News Release from Dekang......interesting.......not an accusation, just good info to pass on....

Announcement of Counterfeit Dekang

Response to counterfeit of Dekang ingredient


Yunnan Changning Dekang Biotechnology Co., Ltd (hereinafter as “Dekang”) is one the most reputable and reliable refilling e-liquid producers in electronic cigarette industry, which renowned for our product purity. We hereby make the following announcement concerning the counterfeit ingredient of Dekang.

Our company only sells the finished e-liquid. Hence we announce that anyone declared that the ingredients they bought from Dekang are counterfeit.

The counterfeit situation contains:
1. Unauthorized refilling and sale of bottles with "Dekang", and "YNDK" logo or mark. (Authorized companies are listing in our website)
2. Any seller declared or marketed that their e-liquid base were made by Dekang
3. Any seller declared that flavor was made by Dekang.
4. Any seller declared that solvent was made by Dekang.

The situations above are all could be confirmed counterfeit. Anyone who bought or using these products and causing any side-effects will take their own responsibility.

A set of actions to prevent the counterfeit accessories is coming out, including the authentic Dekang logo, new bottles, new label, etc. It would be much more convenience for the clients to distinguish the different authentic Dekang.

We offer our gratitude to your attention to electronic cigarette industry and Dekang.

Yours Faithfully
Dekang China

 

[Sjkader]

Not an attack. Hard to word it
Good info. madvapes stated they buy 0mg nic juice (completed product) in quantity and then add nic to it. They did not state the brand of nic juice.

Thank you for the info.

 

[retird]

I hope so,,,, We'll see, I hope this is all just a mix up in some way, I hope the recipe has not changed......

My opinion:

The 50 ml (white bottles) are 100% Dekang (China Juice) with nothing added by MV.
The 60 ml (clear bottles) are 0mg Dekang (China Juice) and MV adds ingredients to it and it is called Custom China (Dekang).

Thus my opinion is that the Custom China juice is no longer 100% Dekang and thus the flavor is different(or lack thereof).
So, I will only order 100% Dekang........and my opinion also is that the Custom China line should not be advertised as Dekang, since it is no longer pure Dekang when ingredients are added to it after it leaves the manufacturer.

I like MV and order alot of different things from them, and will continue to order.......just my 2 cents on what is happening and why we are seeing a difference in juice flavor ( or lack of)....

By the way Harley....I have 120 ml of Custom China USA Mix (11mg) that I can't use either (flavorless)...

 

[Harley]

Well this was a waste of time,,, I guess i will just move on.................

 

[retird]

I tried to pm, But you are not receiving Pm's @ this time it says....

I have been vaping your Dekang RY4 for close to 18 months now, I usually order 8, 50 ml bottles @ a time. 4 24mg and 4 0 mg and mix them together to get 12 mg,,, As i said i have been doing this for quite awhile, My last order came and i just put it away because i had about a 100 ml already mixed.. This weekend i mixed two bottles together and the 24 looked pink instead of amber which i thought was a little weird.. Then i loaded up a cartomizer and WOW what is this stuff, This is NOT RY4.... It tastes nothing like dekang RY4.... What has changed ??? Or is this stuff Mislabeled ????? The Bottles i used to get were white, These are clear... And the 0 mg says Dekang RY4 But on the top of the label it says TOP VAPOR.

I also ordered a 60 ml. Bottle of USA Mix 11mg. It is clear instead of the amber color as it usually is, It also says Top Vapor on it and has Very little flavor... Do you still have the TRUE dekang juices, I cannot vape this stuff. I need some help here !!!!!!!!!!!

Harley

Bump this one more time to see if you can get some help......

 

[hoogie76]

I've forwarded this thread to our sales rep for clarification. Let's see what the answer ends up being..

hoog