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wolf10851

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ok I have had a problem when I refill carts for quite a while now. what I do when I refill them is I put a plug and condom on the battery end I hold the cart at about a 45 degree angle and then I drop in about 20 drops of juice. then I put the rubber ring back in put on the white cap another condom then spin it in a battery bag. correct me if I am wrong but I think that is all correct right? does it sound like I am doing anything wrong?

here is the problem that I run into. I take about 5 or 6 hits off the refilled cart and the thing heats up like crazy. not hot enough to burn me but close to it. this happens on carts that I have refilled quite a few times but also on carts that I am refilling for the first time.

anyone have any ideas why they would heat up so bad?
 

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I always keep in mind that these things were designed to be disposable...so anything after the first use, things might happen.

If a refilled cart gets hot right away, I either set it aside, or take off the white plastic back and center the atty.

When I am out and about, I have 3-4 refilled carts with me at a time....along with a fresh one.

Once you sort out how your vaping habits work, its no hassle.
 

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i have found that when i fill them i put the caps back on and let them settle for a couple of days or a week than they vape just like a new prefilled cart. i rotate them 1 set drying 1 set settling and 1 set i'm vaping.............the ones i'm vaping during the week i wash out on sat. and rotate ect.....
wow way too organized for me lol
 

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I always keep in mind that these things were designed to be disposable...so anything after the first use, things might happen.

Can't be a refill issue - I'm getting the same effect on BLANKS.

I just got my order yesterday, 3 boxes of premiums (Cowboy, Apple Cinnamon, Blank); all have the soft rubber caps.

So far the Cowboy and the Blanks get really hot; uncomfortably hot. So, I have been re-using some Kant premiums that have the hard cap, and they don't seem to burn.

I'm kinda concerned about this actually. I have $30+ worth of carts now that I am afraid to use. And, from what I read, all carts will be like this going forward.:(
 

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keep in mind these aren't like ciggies, you can't keep puffing and puffing- it will get hot. Take a long puff or two, put it down a minute or two, give it a chance to cool down--thats all I can really think of

I've never experienced this in 6months of vaping, sure they get hot occasionally, but not enough to cause any uncomfortableness :p
 

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There are 2 instances in which I've experienced this:
1. refills without washing inbetween. I don't like to do this so all my carts get washed after one use before refilling.

2. On blanks if I fill and vape right away. This doesn't happen if I fill and then let them sit for a day or two.

My carto reuse/refill cycle is exactly the same as timothy's. I haven't had that issue since.
 

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keep in mind these aren't like ciggies, you can't keep puffing and puffing- it will get hot. Take a long puff or two, put it down a minute or two, give it a chance to cool down--thats all I can really think of

I've never experienced this in 6months of vaping, sure they get hot occasionally, but not enough to cause any uncomfortableness :p


^ I agree. Even the real analogs can get too hot if they're puffed on back-to-back.

I have also read about people using a rubber cap on the mouth end with a hole in it. But I think it's most important to chill for a moment between puffs. This gives both the liquid and the temperatures just a moment to even out internally.
 

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I'm wondering what actually is causing this... I have a old style carto that just started doing this to me last week. But for the 2 months previously, it was just fine and not getting that hot.

My vaping style hasn't changed, my juice I put in it hasn't changed, still using the same batteries on it.... Atty is still centered...

Is it possible the metal is getting thinner, so it gets hotter with the same current running through it?
 

yano_jl

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keep in mind these aren't like ciggies, you can't keep puffing and puffing- it will get hot.

Not ciggies, I get that. But I treat the hardcaps and the softies the same, and get different results. I am doing an A/B comparison right now.

I have a full 555 carto (harcap premium), and
a softtip premium blank filled with the same 555 juice.
Each is on a fully charged shortie.

They perform quite differently; and I actually prefer the hardcaps. To me, they seem to have a cooler vape, and more flavor.

I'm gonna miss them :(
 

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I'm new. My wife and I are smoke free for three weeks now, overnight it seems, even in light of the fact that we pulled down three and a half packs a day combined. That being said, I have noticed the 'hot cart' on refill condition, and have chalked it up to viscosity... I noted that the prefab carts I get in the mail run cooler while producing less vapor, generally, while my refills run hotter and produce more vapor. Unscientifically, I have to push the effect onto 'staleness'- that being that the prefab carts have already lost real water volume, while the juice I refill with has not. Water is an excellent conductor. I've found that by letting my refills sit for longer than 48 hours, in open air (uncapped) I can avoid the 'uncomfortable' heat exchange, while still noting that the heat produced is higher on average than from prefab carts... Any help?
 

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Unscientifically, I have to push the effect onto 'staleness'- that being that the prefab carts have already lost real water volume, while the juice I refill with has not. Water is an excellent conductor. I've found that by letting my refills sit for longer than 48 hours, in open air (uncapped) I can avoid the 'uncomfortable' heat exchange, while still noting that the heat produced is higher on average than from prefab carts... Any help?

Unscientific? perhaps, but appreciated nevertheless.

I will try this. It just seems kinda "hacky", to have to do this stuff. The hardies just work.
 
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