How crucial is an AW IMR in the Reo Grand?

[DillPickles666]

Reo noob here (liking it, not quite loving it yet)

i have been been reading some corrections on the "sparking" at the battery (positive) connection and plan to take corrective actions (noalax and a file)

My question is to question the emphasis on AW IMRs. Would an Efest IMR preform the same? How about an orbtronic?
I had been switching back and forth between my efest IMR 2000mah and my Orbtronic PD 2900 (both nipple top) and I wanted to see if these batteries could have something to do with the "lack of performance" in my Reo Grand?

i am aware of how these boxes of beauty can preform, and wonder what I can do to get the most out of it.

 

[Joshinthecity]

Are you finding a difference in performance yourself during your "switching back and forth"?
Other than the battery lasting longer I'd imagine....

j

 

[JC Okie]

The AW IMRs are the recommended battery, so that's all I use. But I do know that others do/have used both of those you mentioned, so I'll let someone else chime in about the batteries. Did you buy a new REO or one off the classifieds? Also....what atomizer are you using? What ohms do you vape?

If you bought it used, possibly you can kick up the performance a lot just with a little cleaning/basic maintenance. Remove the battery and take a file or emery board to the tip of the firing pin, then put some Noalox on it. That will help the performance a LOT if it's not hitting quite as hard as it should. If you bought it new from reosmods, you should have a little packet of Noalox that came with it. Otherwise, you can get it at Ace, Lowes, Home Depot, etc.

Also, many, many of us use the Reomizer 2.0 that Rob sells.....and it's awesome. It would help to know what atty/rba you're using.

Welcome to Reoville.....if you're underwhelmed with the performance, we can fix that. We just need to know what you have going so we can suggest how to tweek it.

 

[super_X_drifter]

I wish I could help but aw IMRs are all I've ever used. Only had one misfire in a year of using nothing but REOs and it was because I was running a .8 ohm coil with 27 ga with a oxidized firing pin.

All it took to get it back to perfect was to file and noalox the tip of the firing pin.

Since then I went 1.5 ohm coils (where I like em) and no arcing or pin maintenance required whatsoever.

 

[NicoHolic]

What's critical is that you use a safer technology IMR battery with a maximum continuous current rating greater than the current you'll draw from it. Current = Voltage/Resistance.

What's highly advisable is not trying to use a flat top battery. The battery top is half of the switch and REOs are designed for the button top on an AW IMR battery. There seems to be no standard dimensions for battery button tops, and if there is, no one seems to follow them. A mismatch where the REO switch bar contacts the battery top can cause high-resistance heating or arcing.

What's a no-brainer is using REO's (and Provari's and most other quality mod maker's) recommended AW IMR batteries from RTDvapor.com. I've seen a picture of what appears to be a protected ICR battery in an AW IMR wrapper. Know your source and don't get ripped off. The real thing from a reliable source is at best a few dollars more, and often not that.

 

[dchest02]

I used the Orbtronics in one of my Grands for a while. The reason I switched to the 1600 mAh AWs was because of the higher amp rating. There wasn't a noticeable difference in the vape, but knowing I'm well below the danger zone with the AWs was a good enough reason for me to stick with them.

If you're into sub-ohm builds then I would suggest going with the 1600 mAh AWs, if not I would stick with what you're running now as you're probably well below the limit.

And if you're worried about the battery life going from a 2900 mAh battery to a 1600 mAh battery, don't, I really didn't notice a difference there either. I run the Orbtronics in my Provari now, but they really don't get much use since I have a Reo in my hand 90% of the time.

 

[dchest02]

BTW, I also had a heck of a time with my first Reo. So much so that I actually sold it. Shortly thereafter I bought another because I just couldn't live with myself knowing that I had given up so easily, and because the vape when it worked was far superior to anything else I had experienced. Once I figured out what I was doing wrong everything got a lot easier. Here's a short list of what I have learned

1. Noalox is your friend. A good portion of my bad experience had a lot to do with the fact that I wiped off the Noalox, and didn't reapply. The difference in the vape was like night and day.

2. The Reomizer 2.0 was meant to be atop the Reo therefore it is a no brainer. On my first Reo I was using an A7, the adjustable center pin was causing me to melt hot springs left and right. Now, I have three RM 2.0 on top of my three Reos.

3. It's not the Reo that is not working correctly, it's your setup (No offense). Once I figure this out things got WAY better and easier for me. Most of the time, it ends up being one flaw in your setup that messes things up. You figure out that one thing, your vape will be the greatest vape ever.

 

[jwat82]

BTW, I also had a heck of a time with my first Reo. So much so that I actually sold it. Shortly thereafter I bought another because I just couldn't live with myself knowing that I had given up so easily, and because the vape when it worked was far superior to anything else I had experienced. Once I figured out what I was doing wrong everything got a lot easier. Here's a short list of what I have learned

1. Noalox is your friend. A good portion of my bad experience had a lot to do with the fact that I wiped off the Noalox, and didn't reapply. The difference in the vape was like night and day.

2. The Reomizer 2.0 was meant to be atop the Reo therefore it is a no brainer. On my first Reo I was using an A7, the adjustable center pin was causing me to melt hot springs left and right. Now, I have three RM 2.0 on top of my three Reos.

3. It's not the Reo that is not working correctly, it's your setup (No offense). Once I figure this out things got WAY better and easier for me. Most of the time, it ends up being one flaw in your setup that messes things up. You figure out that one thing, your vape will be the greatest vape ever.

Absolutely, 100%. Especially #3. I was impressed right of the bat, but wasn't blown away (as I still am, a month in) until I figured out how to properly set up my RM2. The small deck and chamber are a different beast than larger rba's, which is most of them. Relation of the coil to the airhole is the biggest thing IMO. Up, down, left, right, can all create different dynamics in the chamber.

 

[pdib]

What may be more pertinent than the specific brand of buttontop batteries would be the condition of your batteries. If the contact area of your batteries is scuffed up or marred, if it used to have a conductive coating that's been worn away, these things can seriously contribute to sparking. Folks coming from screw-together tube mods have sometimes found that to be an issue. If that's the case, you can get some more use out of them by sanding to a high grit (1500, 2000) and polishing them to a shine. Always maintain battery tops in conjunction with firing pin, as they "infect" each other with sparking issues.

When you get new batteries, you'll find that the REO's gentler positive contact doesn't do the kind of damage to them that a screw-head contact can do; and their contact surface will retain it's new condition much longer.

All this, in conjunction with a firm filing of the pin tip and noalox.

 

[rabernet]

Absolutely, 100%. Especially #3. I was impressed right of the bat, but wasn't blown away (as I still am, a month in) until I figured out how to properly set up my RM2. The small deck and chamber are a different beast than larger rba's, which is most of them. Relation of the coil to the airhole is the biggest thing IMO. Up, down, left, right, can all create different dynamics in the chamber.

Agreed. I was liking but not loving mine either and reached out to superxdrifter for some help. Now I'm in love!

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[Jazzi Mike]

Your Efest/Orbtronic instead of the AW IMRs is most likely not the issue. I was not very pumped about my REO's performance when it first got here either.

The most important aspect of using a REO outside of the device itself is the atomizer you are using. You should look into the Reomizer 2.0 if you do not already have one. It still will take some experimenting to find a build you like.

If you don't build your own coils, then start looking into nice atomizers, like the Cisco ones from Avid Vaper : Personal Vaporizers and Accessories or the 510/306 ones from EmpireMods.

The benefit of using a REO is that you can drip all the time with no mess or fuss. Technically, you can use cartomizers, but it kind of defeats the point. Having the device itself is only half, you have to find a dripping atomizer that gives the vape you are looking for.

Lastly, you want to use low resistance atomizers if you did not buy a VV REO. Depending on what kind of atty you're using and the resistance of it, it might be the problem.

 

[bunker0617]

I'm enjoying my panny crg18650ch...

 

[DillPickles666]

Wow that's a lot of great info
Thank y'all so much. I'll be hitting Home Depot this evening and ordering some AW IMRs from RTD as well.

You guys are the best