How dangerous is it to ship 100 mg? who is responsible if there is an accident

[BigCypress]

So, I usually buy my nic from the main 2 sources. One is always out and the other... well

I'd rather not get it there but sometimes I have to.

Anyway, I recently tried a new place, just a little 120 ml bottle to test it out.

I open up my mailbox and there is a package wrapped in plastic wrap and put in a bag.

So I knew this thing had opened in transit. It looked like it was jammed up in some kind of gear or sorter.


I get this package inside and decide to Photograph the process of me opening this package.

THe stench was horrid. My wife was taking pix i was trying to peel the layers of plastic off. I started feeling strange, I told the wife to go outside.

I contained the package and sealed it up and tossed it in the garb.



So to the question. If i started feeling strange with gloves and a mask on, then what about the postal workers who had no idea what this liquid was?

Would we ever know if anyone got really sick from this accident? More to come...

 

[FACE MEAT]

No bueno. Was it USPS?

 

[BigCypress]

 

[FACE MEAT]

That and a nickel still won't get you a cup of coffee.

Was the package insured?

 

[BigCypress]

Yes USPS, ist there some rule about liquids in first class?

 

[BigCypress]

More info coming, Im not done with the story

 

[Barbara21]

Who is responsible? Obviously the sender.

But I definitely understand your concern. I suspect incidents like this (among other things) will lead to the banning of high-nicotine liquid sales to the public. (To be honest, I'm surprised that they even allowed this in the first place.)

Having said that, there are ways to ship dangerous liquids. My ex-husband (we're still good friends) deals with the chemicals used to strip furniture and has to ship things occasionally. But it has to be done right.

Question - you say it was 'wrapped in plastic wrap and put in a bag'? Was that how it was shipped or could something have happened to the original packaging and the post office wrapped it and put it in the bag?

 

[FACE MEAT]

It's up to whoever ships the package to ensure that liquid contents are sealed and sufficiently padded to prevent leaking during shipping. If the packaging itself is damaged, it seems to me that USPS would reimburse you.

 

[BigCypress]

Facemeat, I'm not worried about $$

I'm worried about the poor dude cleaning up the machine
and then dying later at night in his studio apartment.

 

[FACE MEAT]

I doubt anybody is going to keel over and die, but it's not something you want to bathe in. Have you contacted USPS?

 

[cookiebun]

So, I usually buy my nic from the main 2 sources. One is always out and the other... well

I'd rather not get it there but sometimes I have to.

Anyway, I recently tried a new place, just a little 120 ml bottle to test it out.

I open up my mailbox and there is a package wrapped in plastic wrap and put in a bag.

So I knew this thing had opened in transit. It looked like it was jammed up in some kind of gear or sorter.


I get this package inside and decide to Photograph the process of me opening this package.

THe stench was horrid. My wife was taking pix i was trying to peel the layers of plastic off. I started feeling strange, I told the wife to go outside.

I contained the package and sealed it up and tossed it in the garb.



So to the question. If i started feeling strange with gloves and a mask on, then what about the postal workers who had no idea what this liquid was?

Would we ever know if anyone got really sick from this accident? More to come...

This is something I've been worried about for years.
If i were you I'd call the company you bought it from and give them an earful.
There's no excuse for the shoddy packaging that many vendors use to ship nic.

 

[BigCypress]

40-60mg is the ld-50 of nic, so there is that much nic in every 1 ml of 100mg/ml

 

[BigCypress]

Just a little more insight,

the 120 ml bottle just had a regular screw cap ( not childproof) and wasn't sealed or anything. that was then wrapped in 1 layer of bubble wrap, put in a paper envelope.

I did contact the vendor, and explained the danger. the vendor is a chemist btw and i dont know why i needed to tell him to pack things better.

So they sent me a replacment, same size bottle, same packaging little bigger paper envelope.

Luckily the second shipment didn't break, but I couldnt believe that they sent it essentially the same way after the talk we had.

 

[FACE MEAT]

40-60mg is the ld-50 of nic, so there is that much nic in every 1 ml of 100mg/ml

That's 40-60mg per kilogram of body weight.

 

[BigCypress]

face, how much 100mg have you gotten on your skin?

 

[Wow1420]

Who was the vendor? If you don't want to post the name yet, perhaps you'd PM it to me? I just want to be sure I don't order from them.

 

[Mohamed]

Who was the vendor? If you don't want to post the name yet, perhaps you'd PM it to me? I just want to be sure I don't order from them.

same here as I'm looking into my first nic purchase.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

If it wasn't legal to ship it via air then the reputable places wouldn't be doing it. I've only bought from WL and they package in bubble wrap then THREE heavy sealed bags. Bombproof. One bottle leaked a smidge, probably from altitude, never escaped the bubble wrap. Their packaging is amazing, kind of like Christmas when you get something from them. I don't know who your vendor is but I'd never order from them again. I do appreciate your concern for those that may come into contact with your package.

 

[glasseye]

I'd like to know who it is too. That's just irresponsible to ship nic like that. I would think (hope) that all postal workers wear gloves now. Anthrax, ricin and whatever all else. Just FYI, the post office now has auto $50 insurance on certain mail. Don't know if you qualify but your vendor should.

 

[unknown_shooter]

40-60mg is the ld-50 of nic, so there is that much nic in every 1 ml of 100mg/ml

I was actually reading a thread on reddit discussing the "commonly accepted" lethal dose of nicotine for humans.. it seems that figure may be much like the advice to drink "6 glasses of water per day", and "every fingerprint is 100% unique".. an assumption made a long time ago with no real basis in reality - and quite likely incorrect.

certainly if 100mg nicotine was as menacing as reported, someone here in the usa would have won a darwin award by now.

as for dangers to post-office personel, I doubt they're licking up spills of any undetermined liquids, and I'm pretty certain theyre wearing gloves as well.

I buy all my bug killer & weed killer online & it ships usps without a hitch.. I had 20 pounds of gunpowder & 20,000 pistol primers delivered via ups a couple months ago - the driver wasn't in a bunny-suit, nor did he drive an armored vehicle..

lots of "dangerous" products travel the roads & through the post every day, no need to give the nanny-whiners an excuse to single out nicotine for special treatment.