How much Nic base to last a year if vaping

[zoiDman]

Are my calculations correct?

I want to vape 10mg....10ml per day...for 20 years...using 100mg/ml

10mg x 10ml= 100mg per day
100mg per day x 365 days= 36500mg per year
36500mg per year x 20 years= 730000mg
730000mg / 100mg/ml = 7300ml
7300ml / 1000ml = 7.3 ltrs

I would need 7.3 liters of 100mg/ml to vape 10mg, 10ml per day for 20 years

You Forgot about Leap Years in your Calculations.

Just Kidding. Your Numbers look Good!

 

[puffon]

Yes...you are correct!

Thanks!

 

[bnrkwest]

30 ml x 6mg nic = 180 mg nic per week. The sensible size to buy for nic concentrate is a 1 liter bottle of 100mg, a 10% solution. That costs $50 where I buy it plus some amber glass for storage. That one liter bottle has the same amount of nic as the smoke from 5,000 packs of cigarettes. You are vaping the equivilent of 25 cigs a day worth of nic, one mg per cig. If your vaping stays exactly as it is 1 liter of 100 mg nic should last you 10.6 years in the freezer .

Great info So right now I have 6- 120 ml bottles of nic, 3 are 100 mg and 3 are 60 mg. That should be several years worth but may pick up a few more Corrected numbers

 

[bnrkwest]

If you want a simple, pretty accurate 3mg result in a 30ml bottle, adding 1ml of 100mg nic to 32ml of your mix will get you there. Total mix size - 33ml.

That's easy enough, think I can handle that :0

 

[bnrkwest]

Well I found an ejuice calculator and this is what it came out to. Attaching pics in case it can help anyone out Since I have two types of nic base, 100 and 60, I calculated both for 30 ml bottles at 6 mg/ml nic per bottle.

 

[bnrkwest]

Ok so I ordered a bit more nic, if I use about 100ml a year of nic, I think I am set for awhile. Thanks everyone for the help!

 

[salemgold]

Are my calculations correct?

I want to vape 10mg....10ml per day...for 20 years...using 100mg/ml

10mg x 10ml= 100mg per day
100mg per day x 365 days= 36500mg per year
36500mg per year x 20 years= 730000mg
730000mg / 100mg/ml = 7300ml
7300ml / 1000ml = 7.3 ltrs

I would need 7.3 liters of 100mg/ml to vape 10mg, 10ml per day for 20 years

Did you see my post just above yours? It gives the exact calculations there.

To calculate how much nicotine you will need this is how you do it.

take the # of mls you vape each day and multiply by the strength ( mgs) of liquid that you use. Once you have that total, multiply by 365. Now you know how many mgs of nicotine you need for each year.

Next, figure out what strength of nicotine that you want to buy. Most people buy it by the liter ( 1000 mls) multiply the strength that you are buying by 1000 ( mls) that will give you the mgs in each liter of nicotine.

Last, use the total number of nicotine in each liter and divide it by the number of mgs that you use each year. That will tell you how long 1 liter will last you.

 

[Train2]

That, right there, is the "secret" to manually doing juice/nic calculations!!
To get your mix right, or get your annual consumption - "total nic/total mls" is always going to be correct.

1/2 ml of 100mg/ml would have 50 Total Milligrams of Nicotine.

30ml of 3mg/ml would have 90 Total Milligrams of Nicotine.

So something Doesn't Jive.

If I put 50 Milligrams into a 30ml Bottle, to know what my Milligrams per Milliliter is, I divide the Total mg's by the Total ml's.

50 Divided by 30 = 1.6667

So if I added 1/2 ml of 100mg/ml Nicotine Base to 29.5ml of PG, VG or PG and VG, I would have 30ml of 1.667mg/ml e-Liquid.

You are Little more that Half Way to your Goal of 3mg/ml, so if you want to make 3mg/ml, it sounds like you are going to need a Tad Less than 1ml of 100mg/ml

And that kinda Makes sense. Because 1/3 of 100 is 33.3333. And 1ml to 30ml is 1/30th. And 1/30 of 100 is 3.3333.

 

[zoiDman]

Well I found an ejuice calculator and this is what it came out to. Attaching pics in case it can help anyone out Since I have two types of nic base, 100 and 60, I calculated both for 30 ml bottles at 6 mg/ml nic per bottle.

Looks Good.

JMO - e-Liquid Calculators are Great. And can be Time Savers. But I would Always recommend that a DIY-er does a Quick-n-Dirty "pencil" check of what the Calculators says you Should be Mixing.

You check doesn't need to be Accurate to 4 Decimal Places. Or even account for Flavorings. Just a Rough Check of how much Nicotine and Dilute to add.

Because when People make Errors using Calculators, via Input Error, they Usually are Not Off by a Smidge. They are Off by a Huge Amount.

 

[herb]

Are my calculations correct?

I want to vape 10mg....10ml per day...for 20 years...using 100mg/ml

10mg x 10ml= 100mg per day
100mg per day x 365 days= 36500mg per year
36500mg per year x 20 years= 730000mg
730000mg / 100mg/ml = 7300ml
7300ml / 1000ml = 7.3 ltrs

I would need 7.3 liters of 100mg/ml to vape 10mg, 10ml per day for 20 years

Holy moly , you think you will still be vaping 20 years from now lol. I can't even plan ahead for an upcoming weekend.

 

[440BB]

It's pretty comforting to know that by spending a bit less than three cartons of smokes cost, I can have nic for at least nine years for my wife and myself. Ridiculously cheap insurance to keep off the smokes!

 

[bnrkwest]

Ok by this calulation I have enough now for about 9 yrs, if I reduce my nic mg/ml level by 1/2 to 3mg, I have enough for 18 yrs! Yahoo!!!!!!!! Feeling a bit more relaxed now LOL

Did you see my post just above yours? It gives the exact calculations there.

To calculate how much nicotine you will need this is how you do it.

take the # of mls you vape each day and multiply by the strength ( mgs) of liquid that you use. Once you have that total, multiply by 365. Now you know how many mgs of nicotine you need for each year.

Next, figure out what strength of nicotine that you want to buy. Most people buy it by the liter ( 1000 mls) multiply the strength that you are buying by 1000 ( mls) that will give you the mgs in each liter of nicotine.

Last, use the total number of nicotine in each liter and divide it by the number of mgs that you use each year. That will tell you how long 1 liter will last you.

 

[Str8vision]

Are my calculations correct?

I want to vape 10mg....10ml per day...for 20 years...using 100mg/ml

10mg x 10ml= 100mg per day
100mg per day x 365 days= 36500mg per year
36500mg per year x 20 years= 730000mg
730000mg / 100mg/ml = 7300ml
7300ml / 1000ml = 7.3 ltrs

I would need 7.3 liters of 100mg/ml to vape 10mg, 10ml per day for 20 years

Yes. Of course that's assuming the 100mg liquid nic you initially stored in the freezer doesn't slowly degrade in strength over long periods of time. My personal opinion is that even when stored properly liquid nic may lose around 0.5% - 1% of it's strength per year in storage. I also believe the colder it's kept the slower/lower the rate of degradation but a typical residential freezer doesn't get cold enough to completely stop oxidation, it just greatly slows the process down. The defrost cycle in "frost free" freezers may contribute towards higher degradation rates over very long periods of time. Just my opinion.

 

[zoiDman]

Yes. Of course that's assuming the 100mg liquid nic you initially stored in the freezer doesn't slowly degrade in strength over long periods of time. My personal opinion is that even when stored properly liquid nic may lose around 0.5% - 1% of it's strength per year in storage. I also believe the colder it's kept the slower/lower the rate of degradation but a typical residential freezer doesn't get cold enough to completely stop oxidation, it just greatly slows the process down. The defrost cycle in "frost free" freezers may contribute towards higher degradation rates over very long periods of time. Just my opinion.

If a 100mg/ml Nicotine Base lost 1% of it's total Nicotine every year, how many More ml's would a person Need to Start with to Achieve the same 20 Year Goal?

BTW - If someone used 1% Less Nicotine every year, Wouldn't that Counteract the 1% Degradation of the Nicotine Base.

exm:

Year 1: Users Vapes 10mg/ml
Year 2: Users Vapes 9.9mg/ml
Year 3: Users Vapes 9.801mg/ml
Year 4: Users Vapes 9.703mg/ml
.
.
.
Well, you see what I mean.

 

[puffon]

Yes. Of course that's assuming the 100mg liquid nic you initially stored in the freezer doesn't slowly degrade in strength over long periods of time. My personal opinion is that even when stored properly liquid nic may lose around 0.5% - 1% of it's strength per year in storage. I also believe the colder it's kept the slower/lower the rate of degradation but a typical residential freezer doesn't get cold enough to completely stop oxidation, it just greatly slows the process down. The defrost cycle in "frost free" freezers may contribute towards higher degradation rates over very long periods of time. Just my opinion.

I agree. I'm more concerned about taste. Should know at about 10yrs if it's time to quit.
I've got it in a "medical" freezer rated at -4f, but is holding at -8f, no defrost. Not cryogenic, but should help.
Being 60yrs old, I'll be lucky if I make it 20 more years

 

[440BB]

BTW - If someone used 1% Less Nicotine every year, Wouldn't that Counteract the 1% Degradation of the Nicotine Base.

I think that would compound it.

I say just go with the flow. If base degradation drops me from 8mg down to 6.54 mg to start year 21, I think that's fine. I'll also be pretty damn old!

 

[zoiDman]

I think that would compound it.

I say just go with the flow. If base degradation drops me from 8mg down to 6.54 mg to start year 21, I think that's fine. I'll also be pretty damn old!

If the Rate of Change of the Amount of Nicotine you have is the same as the Rate of Change of what you use, and if the Two Rates of Changes are Co-Parallel, shouldn't the Net Result as given by a Length of Consumption Duration stay the Same?

That is, If you Know that the Rate of Change for the Nicotine is Changing, and you Mix with the Decreased amount of Nicotine per Volume in mind.

That is kinda a Mathematical way of say'n if you Eat More, but also Exercise More, can't you stay the Same Weight?

 

[440BB]

Now I see what you're getting at!

 

[zoiDman]

Now I see what you're getting at!

Cool. And know that you said it Best when you said... "I say just go with the flow. If base degradation drops me from 8mg down to 6.54 mg to start year 21, I think that's fine. I'll also be pretty damn old!"

Because all that stuff I posted about Co-Parallel Rates of Change for Consumption Functions kinda sounds like the Ramblings of a Retire Math Professor.

What is Important is it is Very Easy to have enough Nicotine to Last each of Us a Very Long Time. If you Prepare Now.

 

[Str8vision]

BTW - If someone used 1% Less Nicotine every year, Wouldn't that Counteract the 1% Degradation of the Nicotine Base.

That's exactly the way I look at it.