How to delude nicotine?

[Amy41996]

this info i put forth is what i have learned during my time vaping,,,,,its just what i have come across.....no, maybe a tiny .not even 1 % comes out with exhale,,,,your body absorbs slower with vaping then with cigs. Worded it wrong in the post you quoted.
noone around you is affected,,,and if any portion is exhaled, it disapates immediately...noone around you is affected by what you exhale its just water vapor.
sorry to alarm anyone with that statement,,,,at one time i was wondering why i would feel the hit off a cig immediately and when i vaped the feeling of the nic was not felt so fast...i heard from someone when I asked that in a forum once they also assured me that i wasnt exhaling harmful chems. That is how they explained it to me (what I put in the post)
my son is VERY sensitive to nicotine and other chems that were in cigs, he has major sinus probs and had rsv when he was a baby, so i do need to be careful with what is around him......he can be around me when i vape and there is no reaction at all. I do believe he would have a reaction if nicotine was affecting him.
Happy vaping

p.s. remember when we smoked we inhaled and exhaled smoke,,with vaping we inhale and exhale water vapor. not a fact. but i think that is a biggest factor concerning others around (including beloved animals/pets around us) with second hand smoke. i dont believe there is anything such as second hand water vapor harming anyone. my friend vapes, she has copd,,,,,she hasnt had to use her inhaler within days of quitting. she always needed it when she smoked, even when she laughed she had to use her inhaler. now she can laugh and get thru the night. she coughs here and there, but no need for her inhaler...oops wrong, when her allergies started to kick in she needed it ...... but not from vaping

hope this helps ease your mind and i hope i made any sort of sense
Amy

 

[VirusZ]

3 packs a day? WOW, i cant believe that some people smoked that much, i smoked one pack of Winston lights and then Pal mal lights, and in last 3 months i moved to 14 cigarettes a day.
And i was all scared, i smoked for 15 years 16 to 31 and the older i got the more scared i got but couldn't stop..
When i moved to vaping, i quit in one day, basically i got my first order from DX some 9USD cheapo eciog (was waiting for my mods from USA) so i took this cheapo automatic, connected Gotvapes small cleromizer and cvaped away, haven't touch a n analog from that moment.
I kept my analogs till today and today i finally sold them, about 6 new packs..

I try vaping below 18mg, i wont touch anything stronger even for free, I would prefer to vape less then 18 becuase the less the better for our health, IMO 16mg should be a good sweet spot with nice TH.
I never get any TH with 12MG or less

I got my Crystal at 6mg and im really disappointed, not of the ejucie but becuase i was stupid to order 6mg, it almost tasteless and no TH like vaping warm air, Ill give it to someone starting vaping and get myself 18 or 16mg whatever they sell..

I got 18mg lasso and Americano and believe me i cant vape Americano, i vaped it for 2 days and i cant anymore, i get chest pain and huge TH that kills me and after smoking it for half day i feel my throat killing me and my chest is beating like something pushing on it ..
But Lasso 18mg is OK, tastes nice, good vapor its like vaping lights or something..

Maybe im weird but i liked the .... stuff, like the Dekang Winston, DKtab, Davidoff

Beofre i got juices from GT, i got about 30 now maybe 50 sample bottles from most big US sellers, and i dont like 95% of it, everything that have non tobacco taste is meh, and most of Tobacco is strange, like the "uber top" Organic stuff, i couldn't vape it...

GT found good flavours with the Crystal and Lasso, maybe Crystal is bit weak but at least its not strange with wierd aftertaste of honey and what not..

Whew, LOL sorry I hope it wasn't too much info

I have a range

my "have to have a cig" panik time is 24mg drip my all day vape ranges between 18mg-12mg i use cartos my "fun vapes" the sweet yummy colada and sugar cookie pb&j type ejuices are like 8mg-0mg....those i mainly driip--they taste really good but i get a bit of an upset stomach if i vape them tooooo much.
my main vapes now are---crystal flux, lasso, americano, egyptian and a menthol from somewhere else. They all have something about them that i just love. i rotate them and like i said am trying to take it slow with the crystal and the lasso til stock comes back in.
my Egyptian i do like in 24 because the next choice is 15mg i believe,,,and i realy do like it at 24..
with most ejuices that are 24 i get that peppery nicotine taste,,,the egyptian is very smooth and dont get that taste from it

lololol a litle more info then you asked.....am loopy as ususal

24mg not too much ..thats where i started..i use to smoke 3 packs of newport a day,,,,,they are about 20mg in the cig use to smoke...when you smoke a cig the nic is absorbed almost immediately in the body,,,with vaping from what i learned it takes 30-60 seconds for your body to absorb it during that time the nic dilutes a little.
I have never done 36,,,kinda scared to eeeks

sorry if lengthy,,,but when i start to talking, i just keep at it sometimes

 

[leannebug]

Just a little extra info..:

If you are relatively new (and even not) your 'all day' vape could very well change over the coming weeks and months. Mine has changed many times. As your taste buds and sense of smell returns, things will change.
Just telling you this so you don't buy too many gallons :d

Also: my son had RSV too. He smokes. And the fool has asthma too.

Sent from my pod

 

[wrigleyvillain]

I try vaping below 18mg, i wont touch anything stronger even for free, I would prefer to vape less then 18 becuase the less the better for our health, IMO 16mg should be a good sweet spot with nice TH.
I never get any TH with 12MG or less

While nicotine is toxic in larger doses it's consumption in moderate amounts is not unhealthy in and of itself. In fact, some research indicates there may even be some health benefits, mainly for the brain.

Research has pointed to a compound called acetylcholine as the reason. Nicotine is structurally similar to acetylcholine, a naturally-occurring compound that serves as a neurotransmitter. Nicotine binds to nerve receptors and makes nerve cells fire more frequently. In one study, a group of Alzheimer's patients were given nicotine patches, while another received a placebo. Those with nicotine patches maintained their cognitive abilities longer and sometimes even recovered lost cognitive function. A follow-up study indicated that nicotine may also boost cognitive abilities in elderly people who aren't suffering from Alzheimer's but who are experiencing the typical mental decline associated with old age.

Nicotine certainly isn't what makes cigarettes so destructive to health-it's the actual act of smoking combined with the crazy crap they put in them. Smoke of any kind is no good for your lungs with varying degrees of "no good" depending on whats in the smoke and how much is consumed.

 

[earthpig]

If anything is of harm in e-cigs the biggest caution is not nicotine, it's flavorings and carto/filler/juice burn or scorch.
By percentages, we are talking minimal in comparison to the real deal. The numbers vary from 100x to 1400x safer (which is technically a unknown), and much is dependent on what you smoke(d) compared to what you vape.
Hey, I can easily live with just the 100x number and if that's all the better,,,,I'm WAY good with that!
Always recall though, this isn't "Harm Elimination", it's "Harm Reduction" and by a major degree.

A safer Pig

 

[Amy41996]

While nicotine is toxic in larger doses it's consumption in moderate amounts is not unhealthy in and of itself. In fact, some research indicates there may even be some health benefits, mainly for the brain.



Nicotine certainly isn't what makes cigarettes so destructive to health-it's the actual act of smoking combined with the crazy crap they put in them. Smoke of any kind is no good for your lungs with varying degrees of "no good" depending on whats in the smoke and how much is consumed.

Great Info thanks

 

[VirusZ]

I have to agree, I also noticed very negative effect from dark juices, and i always ask if they use oil based flavors, i dont want any of these they dangerous.
So far from looking on forums is advised to avoid:
Butter flavors (when heated release carcinogens, see people working at popcorn factories getting sick)
Vanilla flavors (same reason)
Oil Based flavors very very bad
In my case also dark juices (but im not alone in this)
Im sure tehre are other that I missed and

If anything is of harm in e-cigs the biggest caution is not nicotine, it's flavorings and carto/filler/juice burn or scorch.
By percentages, we are talking minimal in comparison to the real deal. The numbers vary from 100x to 1400x safer (which is technically a unknown), and much is dependent on what you smoke(d) compared to what you vape.
Hey, I can easily live with just the 100x number and if that's all the better,,,,I'm WAY good with that!
Always recall though, this isn't "Harm Elimination", it's "Harm Reduction" and by a major degree.

A safer Pig

 

[wrigleyvillain]

Great Info thanks

You're welcome. That particular quote was from an article at Discovery Health. Google" nicotine health benefits" or some such thing for more info.

Yeah, vaping lower nic juice is good for helping ones addiction but not health.

 

[earthpig]

VirusZ
Commonly oils are never used.
There are some issues I have with artificial sugars and other components. Artificial sugars are not even good eaten, even with your stomach acids, let alone in the lungs which cannot metabolize it as well.
Generally when folks run low ohms or high voltage fluids get singed. The PG , VG and Nicotine vape up well, and are a non issue. It's the flavorings that that don't make it.
So under optimum heat all is generally well, but everyone pushes the envelope and goes for very low ohms and then they kick the voltages up. It gets the coil very hot. Normally a coil hits ~480 deg F, and I don't even know what it hits outside of optimum.
Other things like Cinnamon are flavors many have allergies to.

Sorry to go on and not discuss the nicotine, but to me it is the least of the concerns, and the nitrosamines in Nic, are also of minimal concern. Even to the FDA who allows them in their gum, patches and inhalers, and in similar quantities.

 

[VirusZ]

Im not afraid of nic as in afraid, but i had some strange effects from high nic juices, like chest pains, throat pains, heavy chest and so on..
Now i think it was becuase of dark juice not the nic, i used a light juice with same nic as the dark one and was totally fine, but the dark one kills my throat after 2 hits and after 10 hits i get heavy chest (Americano juice).
On the other had the Lasso also 18Mg was fine, no strange effects and I smoked it much more.
No i know which 2 ill order the crystal and the lasso had no effects on me...

VirusZ
Commonly oils are never used.
There are some issues I have with artificial sugars and other components. Artificial sugars are not even good eaten, even with your stomach acids, let alone in the lungs which cannot metabolize it as well.
Generally when folks run low ohms or high voltage fluids get singed. The PG , VG and Nicotine vape up well, and are a non issue. It's the flavorings that that don't make it.
So under optimum heat all is generally well, but everyone pushes the envelope and goes for very low ohms and then they kick the voltages up. It gets the coil very hot. Normally a coil hits ~480 deg F, and I don't even know what it hits outside of optimum.
Other things like Cinnamon are flavors many have allergies to.

Sorry to go on and not discuss the nicotine, but to me it is the least of the concerns, and the nitrosamines in Nic, are also of minimal concern. Even to the FDA who allows them in their gum, patches and inhalers, and in similar quantities.

 

[earthpig]

Virus. It sounds like you might have an allergic reaction to some component.
Might be wise to chase it down, so you don't run into it again.

 

[VirusZ]

Yep, ill do that. At least I already know to avoid dark juices

Virus. It sounds like you might have an allergic reaction to some component.
Might be wise to chase it down, so you don't run into it again.

 

[wrigleyvillain]

Well tobacco/nicotine (I think it's the nicotine) is also a vasoconstrictor. For the record, this is the opposite of some other, uh, commonly smoked plants. That's why cigs control appetite (again as opposed to the opposite lol)--constricted blood vessels in the stomach.

 

[GeekyGirl36]

I have to agree, I also noticed very negative effect from dark juices, and i always ask if they use oil based flavors, i dont want any of these they dangerous.
So far from looking on forums is advised to avoid:
Butter flavors (when heated release carcinogens, see people working at popcorn factories getting sick)
Vanilla flavors (same reason)
Oil Based flavors very very bad
In my case also dark juices (but im not alone in this)
Im sure tehre are other that I missed and

Oh no! NOT my beloved Vanilla!!! Vanilla is my go to juice for trying any new company, I base any future orders based on their Vanilla because it's such a hard flavor to mess up. Why is it advised to be avoided?!?

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