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What is the voltage of your passthrough?
For mods and passthroughs - I think the lowest hottest ohms you want to go is around 2 or 2.2 less than your voltage. Got that bit of wisdom from a member. The coolest you ever want to go will usually be about .5 less than your voltage. That is simplistic but works in general.
So for a 3.7v passthrough the hot end would be 1.5 ohms and the coolest would be 3.2ohms
For a 5v passthrough maybe 3 ohms for the hottest and 4.5 ohms for the coldest
So choose what you want in those ranges, based on your PT's voltage.
For slim cigs you have to stick to standard resistance (usually 2.5 ohms to 3.2 ohms)
For mods and passthroughs - I think the lowest hottest ohms you want to go is around 2 or 2.2 less than your voltage. Got that bit of wisdom from a member. The coolest you ever want to go will usually be about .5 less than your voltage. That is simplistic but works in general.
So for a 3.7v passthrough the hot end would be 1.5 ohms and the coolest would be 3.2ohms
For a 5v passthrough maybe 3 ohms for the hottest and 4.5 ohms for the coldest
So choose what you want in those ranges, based on your PT's voltage.
For slim cigs you have to stick to standard resistance (usually 2.5 ohms to 3.2 ohms)
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will have to ask my mom about the voltage. She and her husband got it for me for Christmas last year and i dont know a thing about it.
Ohms are the measure of resistance in an electrical circuit. A standard resistance atomizer will be around 2.2 to 2.5 ohms. A high resistance will be higher than 2.5 ohms, and a low resistance atty will be less than 2.2 ohms. Given the same voltage the lower the resistance the faster and hotter the atomizer will run. This produces more vapor quicker. On an eGo pass through I'd suggest a resistance level of 1.7 to 2.2 ohms. Some people have reported that really low resistance such as 1.5 ohms can damage the battery by overloading it. If you go over 2.5 ohms you'll probably get kind of weak vapor.
Madvapes does have good prices on atty's, but I've been buying mine from here BULK 901 801 Joye 510 and 306 atomizers. They're about the cheapest price on genuine Joye atty's from a US vendor. If you get a 510 to 901 adapter you can save even more, but buy it elsewhere because they want too much for them at Vapor Kings.
Madvapes does have good prices on atty's, but I've been buying mine from here BULK 901 801 Joye 510 and 306 atomizers. They're about the cheapest price on genuine Joye atty's from a US vendor. If you get a 510 to 901 adapter you can save even more, but buy it elsewhere because they want too much for them at Vapor Kings.
If you have a 5v passthrough you can use duel coil cartomizers. They work fine with a 3.7v passthrough as well.
No offense guys but this is where you loose people. ohms, volts, duel coils, high resistance, low resistance....man. I thought I had started to get a handle on these things but ya'll lost me here.
Someone said on here once that the only way e cigs were going to go mainstream was if people can understand them and they are easy to use etc. Now I've been reading about them for nearly a week now, almost non stop. I'm not exactly a techy person, I raise sheep and punch keys all day. So I am trying to wrap my brain around this stuff and just when I think its almost all the way around, I read something like "Ohms are the measure of resistance in an electrical circuit..." and my brain says HUH???? I'm with you Ohiomom.
Sorry, my Metro is stuck in the usb port charging, the red light is mocking me. I don't have a backup because I've been reading these boards trying to figure out which one to buy so I'm a little cranky.
Someone said on here once that the only way e cigs were going to go mainstream was if people can understand them and they are easy to use etc. Now I've been reading about them for nearly a week now, almost non stop. I'm not exactly a techy person, I raise sheep and punch keys all day. So I am trying to wrap my brain around this stuff and just when I think its almost all the way around, I read something like "Ohms are the measure of resistance in an electrical circuit..." and my brain says HUH???? I'm with you Ohiomom.
Sorry, my Metro is stuck in the usb port charging, the red light is mocking me. I don't have a backup because I've been reading these boards trying to figure out which one to buy so I'm a little cranky.
No offense guys but this is where you loose people. ohms, volts, duel coils, high resistance, low resistance....man. I thought I had started to get a handle on these things but ya'll lost me here.
Someone said on here once that the only way e cigs were going to go mainstream was if people can understand them and they are easy to use etc. Now I've been reading about them for nearly a week now, almost non stop. I'm not exactly a techy person, I raise sheep and punch keys all day. So I am trying to wrap my brain around this stuff and just when I think its almost all the way around, I read something like "Ohms are the measure of resistance in an electrical circuit..." and my brain says HUH???? I'm with you Ohiomom.
Sorry, my Metro is stuck in the usb port charging, the red light is mocking me. I don't have a backup because I've been reading these boards trying to figure out which one to buy so I'm a little cranky.
Its not hard to understand once you get into it.
I agree. Not all newbies need to hear techno babble but then again some want to know everything there is to know about ecigs including ohms, voltage etc....This is very useful information for those who really embrace the ecig world and make it a hobby. Just skim over the techno babble and move on. Or...if you have a question just tell us in your post that you don't want to hear any techie stuff, you just want it plain and simple. I see that occasionally and people respect it. Take what you want out of each post and forget about the rest.
No offense guys but this is where you loose people. ohms, volts, duel coils, high resistance, low resistance....man. I thought I had started to get a handle on these things but ya'll lost me here.
Someone said on here once that the only way e cigs were going to go mainstream was if people can understand them and they are easy to use etc. Now I've been reading about them for nearly a week now, almost non stop. I'm not exactly a techy person, I raise sheep and punch keys all day. So I am trying to wrap my brain around this stuff and just when I think its almost all the way around, I read something like "Ohms are the measure of resistance in an electrical circuit..." and my brain says HUH???? I'm with you Ohiomom.
Sorry, my Metro is stuck in the usb port charging, the red light is mocking me. I don't have a backup because I've been reading these boards trying to figure out which one to buy so I'm a little cranky.
I am new, so I can only give you my opinion as a newb, but from what I have been learning so far, I don't think, at this point, that it is necessary you understand exactly what an ohm is, but it is good to understand how it affects your vaping experience. I would also recommend browsing more than one forum or site if there is something there you don't understand. There are a lot of great resources out there to utilize, and someone else's explanation of something might be more clear to you.
Don't get me wrong, I am all for research, but don't let it bog you down to the point of stagnation would be my advice...that, and don't get discouraged.
No offense guys but this is where you loose people. ohms, volts, duel coils, high resistance, low resistance....man. I thought I had started to get a handle on these things but ya'll lost me here.
Someone said on here once that the only way e cigs were going to go mainstream was if people can understand them and they are easy to use etc. Now I've been reading about them for nearly a week now, almost non stop. I'm not exactly a techy person, I raise sheep and punch keys all day. So I am trying to wrap my brain around this stuff and just when I think its almost all the way around, I read something like "Ohms are the measure of resistance in an electrical circuit..." and my brain says HUH???? I'm with you Ohiomom.
Sorry, my Metro is stuck in the usb port charging, the red light is mocking me. I don't have a backup because I've been reading these boards trying to figure out which one to buy so I'm a little cranky.
I know, right? It's a crazy new world. I bugged the poop out of the veterans with questions. Many will give up in their quest. I send friends/family for two kits options and cartomizers. That's all they need. They're happy vaping tards doing as well as those with uber vape wisdom. Good luck to you! I hope this finds you with your red light out and vaping with a smile
Ohms, volts, nicotine mg/mL are just measurements, kinda like shoe sizes, just need to find which fits you personally.
Ohms range from 1.5 to about 4 for attys or cartos, the lower the hotter, higher = cooler vapor.
Volts range from about 3.2 to 7.4V, lower is cooler, higher is warmer.
You can mix and match but usually lower voltages work better with lower ohms. The usual range
starting out is 3.2 - 3.7v matched with 2.0 - 2.7 ohms attached, good vapor, good flavor, less
chance of burning the atty / carto or juice.
Buying any atty or carto where the vendor doesn't have the ohms on their site is like buying a
pair of shoes without knowing the size, what the "size" actually represents is less important than
knowing what it is so you can buy more when you find what ohms you like.
p.s. starting out I think I understood less than you guys do, judging by your questions!!
OK, I give up!
-Ya give an endorsement of a tried and true combo, you're playing favorites 'cause it's what you use.
-Ya give technical info in order to try and find what the poster really 'needs' due to their requirements, 'nerd alert'.
-Ya give personally proven options, someone will chime in with their personally proven options and bad mouth yours; all without ever using your recommendations.
-Ya suggest a more than satisfactory, trouble free and long lasting combo that's reasonably priced for entry and intermediate levels, naw too expensive, naw too cheap, naw "I heard that...".
I won't give up on trying to assist others; but day-um folks, take a deep breath and consider the other person and how they're trying to help (even though they haven't tried your favorites).
And YES, there is a learning curve. And NO, ya can't explain it ALL to someone that's just starting vaping.
I try to assist the 'vaping virgins' in not wasting money the way I originally did. Now once they're hooked, they're on their own. No one can stifled the 'chase the latest and greatest' except the individual (don't ask me how I know
)!
So, let's determine what the n00b is seeking and help without elbowing each other outta da way. (Hey, you... yeah you... you're so fracking wrong...
)
-Ya give an endorsement of a tried and true combo, you're playing favorites 'cause it's what you use.
-Ya give technical info in order to try and find what the poster really 'needs' due to their requirements, 'nerd alert'.
-Ya give personally proven options, someone will chime in with their personally proven options and bad mouth yours; all without ever using your recommendations.
-Ya suggest a more than satisfactory, trouble free and long lasting combo that's reasonably priced for entry and intermediate levels, naw too expensive, naw too cheap, naw "I heard that...".
I won't give up on trying to assist others; but day-um folks, take a deep breath and consider the other person and how they're trying to help (even though they haven't tried your favorites).
And YES, there is a learning curve. And NO, ya can't explain it ALL to someone that's just starting vaping.
I try to assist the 'vaping virgins' in not wasting money the way I originally did. Now once they're hooked, they're on their own. No one can stifled the 'chase the latest and greatest' except the individual (don't ask me how I know
)!So, let's determine what the n00b is seeking and help without elbowing each other outta da way. (Hey, you... yeah you... you're so fracking wrong...
I'm new to all this as well. I fully transitioned from analogs two months ago and have only been on the forums a week. My thoughts are this... No one can learn all there is to know in the vaping world overnight. The veterans and members in-the-know can share their wealth of knowledge (and think of how blessed we are for that instead of being on our own, running around like rats in s maze! @_@) with us, but they shouldn't have to completely dumb themselves down to suit us. If we have a question, we can ask or (novel concept) do our own research like so many before us had to. Everyone here has been so friendly and helpful and no one has pointed me in such an off-kilter direction that five minutes of Googling could not fix.
That being said...
Ohiomom10, welcome to the wonderful world of vaping and the abundant treasure trove of knowledge that is the ECF. Do you only use a passthrough at this point?
That being said...
Ohiomom10, welcome to the wonderful world of vaping and the abundant treasure trove of knowledge that is the ECF. Do you only use a passthrough at this point?
OK, red light turned green, I'm vaping and feeling a little guilty for my rant . I just was getting a little frustrated, I know everyones been there done that and moved on. So I'm moving on.
I will say that the advice everyone gives here is priceless and I really DO appreciate all the time you guys put into helping us greenhorns...ok thats showing my age. Generally when I see something I don't understand I look it up and figure out what it is. Next time I'll keep my mouth shut and look it up
. I just was getting a little frustrated, I know everyones been there done that and moved on. So I'm moving on. I will say that the advice everyone gives here is priceless and I really DO appreciate all the time you guys put into helping us greenhorns...ok thats showing my age. Generally when I see something I don't understand I look it up and figure out what it is. Next time I'll keep my mouth shut and look it up
Ok, you mentioned you have an Ego passthrough. Actually, I believe what you have is technically an Ego-T passthrough. It has the 5-button press shutoff and can be disconnected from the USB charger, am I correct? It runs like a standard eGo battery, i.e. 3.4 volts (PCM).
If you really want an atomizer, the standard Joye 510 atomizer might do you fine. I like the 306 low-resistance atomizers with a 306 drip tip. I'm not big on cartridges.
But, for the most part I use cartomizers, instead. You might like the Boge low-resistance or SmokeTech dual coil cartomizers. A bunch of people on the Canada forum swear by the Ego Mega Dual Coil cartomizer as well.
For all the talk about resistance, your standard resistance atomizers or cartomizers usually run between 2.5 and 2.8 ohms while your low-resistance atomizers run about 1.6 (SmokTech dual coil) or 2.0 ohms (Boge LR). A low-resistance atomizer will discharge your battery faster, but you get more flavor and vapor. The low-resistance atomizers don't last as long, either. I think it's still a good tradeoff.
If you get confused, just keep asking questions. Sometimes, you just get a wave of confusing and sometimes contradictory advice. But, it can all be straightened out in the end.
If you really want an atomizer, the standard Joye 510 atomizer might do you fine. I like the 306 low-resistance atomizers with a 306 drip tip. I'm not big on cartridges.
But, for the most part I use cartomizers, instead. You might like the Boge low-resistance or SmokeTech dual coil cartomizers. A bunch of people on the Canada forum swear by the Ego Mega Dual Coil cartomizer as well.
For all the talk about resistance, your standard resistance atomizers or cartomizers usually run between 2.5 and 2.8 ohms while your low-resistance atomizers run about 1.6 (SmokTech dual coil) or 2.0 ohms (Boge LR). A low-resistance atomizer will discharge your battery faster, but you get more flavor and vapor. The low-resistance atomizers don't last as long, either. I think it's still a good tradeoff.
If you get confused, just keep asking questions. Sometimes, you just get a wave of confusing and sometimes contradictory advice. But, it can all be straightened out in the end.
@woolgrower - the only stupid question around here is the unasked question!!
If you are really having a problem understanding someone's explanation try a quick PM to the person.
The worst, you don't get an answer, the best, you make a new friend.
If you are really having a problem understanding someone's explanation try a quick PM to the person.
The worst, you don't get an answer, the best, you make a new friend.
p.s. check out this thread for some simple straight forward advice http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/211061-one-piece-advice-youd-give-new-vapers.html#post3792692
and finish up with a few laughs here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/207925-things-ive-learned-ecf.html#post3711826
and finish up with a few laughs here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/207925-things-ive-learned-ecf.html#post3711826
Wow. This is really a cool thread. Most of ECF is the same info round and round. There's feelings (and frustrations) in this threat that reminds us all of the learning curve. Rant's OK, wookgrower.
I just wanted to remind all of you that it's all subjective and requires real world, hands on experience. What I like may not be what you like anyway. Look around, read up a bit. In the end though, you have to pick a few options and try em. I know it's hard to pick... very overwhelming and confusing on what to get, what will work with what. We sometimes make it worse by just saying "Get an eGo" or "Carto XXYZ is the only way to go". lol. There are plenty of people that got an 808 kit, or 510 kit and have been using it (plus parts) for the last 2 years or more. Others hate those models, and go with big fat batteries and tanks. It's all subjective (well mostly).
The kits often solve some of this confusion since they are bundles of atomizer/cartomizers and batteries and chargers. See what's in them, and pick similar stuff to start with and have spares. Then read up and branch out.
This industry is changing fast, and doesn't have many solid standards in place. If it did, atties and connectors would be labeled and color coded to match devices or some such. It's definitely buyer beware, buyer research, buyer hope-it-works.
I'll offer a tip. Wookgrower is all nicked up now, so he'll like this one........ There is one formula in vaping that comes up over and over. Of course, there are others, but this one is THE formula for figuring out if things will work together. Just memorize this one thing: "Voltage squared divided by resistance". That's all you need to remember for vaping, IMO. You don't need charts, or fancy calculators (you can use those if you want tho). But this formula will give you the amount of heat (watts... like a light bulb).
If you know the voltage of your e-cig (takes looking up if you don't know) and the resistance of the atty/carto (ohms) you know how hot it will be. Most vape between 4 and 8.5 watts. You do need info. It's not that bad tho.
So a 3.2 volt e-cig at 2.0 ohms is 3.2 x 3.2 / 2 = 5.12 watts. OK vape. I vape at 5 volts with a 3.0 ohm atty (5*5/3)=8.3333 watts. Don't let your eyes glaze over. It's always the same equation, the same variables. PER COIL (they have dual and triple coils stuff out now...lol... just to make a complicated thing even more complicated).
Anyway. That one formula will solve 99.99% of your vaping needs. You don't need to know what ohms, watts, volts, amps actually are... just how to use them.
Wow. There's been 3 posts since I started typing. lol. Hope I didn't ramble too much. Hope it helps.
Good Luck!
I just wanted to remind all of you that it's all subjective and requires real world, hands on experience. What I like may not be what you like anyway. Look around, read up a bit. In the end though, you have to pick a few options and try em. I know it's hard to pick... very overwhelming and confusing on what to get, what will work with what. We sometimes make it worse by just saying "Get an eGo" or "Carto XXYZ is the only way to go". lol. There are plenty of people that got an 808 kit, or 510 kit and have been using it (plus parts) for the last 2 years or more. Others hate those models, and go with big fat batteries and tanks. It's all subjective (well mostly).
The kits often solve some of this confusion since they are bundles of atomizer/cartomizers and batteries and chargers. See what's in them, and pick similar stuff to start with and have spares. Then read up and branch out.
This industry is changing fast, and doesn't have many solid standards in place. If it did, atties and connectors would be labeled and color coded to match devices or some such. It's definitely buyer beware, buyer research, buyer hope-it-works.
I'll offer a tip. Wookgrower is all nicked up now, so he'll like this one........
There is one formula in vaping that comes up over and over. Of course, there are others, but this one is THE formula for figuring out if things will work together. Just memorize this one thing: "Voltage squared divided by resistance". That's all you need to remember for vaping, IMO. You don't need charts, or fancy calculators (you can use those if you want tho). But this formula will give you the amount of heat (watts... like a light bulb).If you know the voltage of your e-cig (takes looking up if you don't know) and the resistance of the atty/carto (ohms) you know how hot it will be. Most vape between 4 and 8.5 watts. You do need info. It's not that bad tho.
So a 3.2 volt e-cig at 2.0 ohms is 3.2 x 3.2 / 2 = 5.12 watts. OK vape. I vape at 5 volts with a 3.0 ohm atty (5*5/3)=8.3333 watts. Don't let your eyes glaze over. It's always the same equation, the same variables. PER COIL (they have dual and triple coils stuff out now...lol... just to make a complicated thing even more complicated).
Anyway. That one formula will solve 99.99% of your vaping needs. You don't need to know what ohms, watts, volts, amps actually are... just how to use them.
Wow. There's been 3 posts since I started typing. lol. Hope I didn't ramble too much. Hope it helps.
Good Luck!
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