Hybrid Mods- Pretty Insane

[WharfRat1976]

Here are Two pics of a hybrid mod top cap I recently bought. As you can see, the positive tab on the battery is directly connected to your 510 pin or whatever it comes in contact with at the bottom of your atty.

Here is a pic of the 510 pin on the bottom of the Atlantis:

The pin simply pushes into a grommet and floats there. If the pin comes in contact with the side of the atty it will short the circuit and if left there will short the battery. Notice how close the pin is to the sides of the atty. If that grommet gets deformed in any way, that pin can touch those sidewalls and short the circuit. After screwing and unscrewing the atty on and off mods, that pin and grommet can move out of its centered position. On a hybrid mod if this atty is over tightened directly onto the positive tab of the battery, the pin can MASH down onto it, deform the grommet and touch the sidewall causing a short. Someone not aware of this with little experience has a ticking time bomb in their hands. Be safe out there.

 

[Ou2mame]

People who don't have the knowledge to be safe shouldn't be using these devices. But ultimately it's their responsibility to know what they do and don't know and choose devices that are safe for them to use. I wouldn't recommend an rta to a beginner with no electrical knowledge either.

 

[nyiddle]

I really think there should be a site-wide PSA/warning about using sub-ohm tanks/any carto-style tanks on hybrid/direct-connection mech mods.

I've already heard from several other people that vape shops RECOMMENDED things like a SMPL + an Atlantis, or a 4nine + a SubTank. This is absolutely dangerous, and if people aren't actively informed we're going to see a lot of these catastrophic battery discharge issues occurring..

 

[crxess]

That type of pin is simple to correct for a knowledgeable vapor. Simply remove and add a small o-ring to extend/hold the pin. Next is make sure to use a Button top battery if it will properly fit.

I would not use either example mod as neither has a Delrin insert to avoid shorting to the top.

 

[Thrasher]

That's why this should be left to actual "real" hybrid mods

 

[juggler86]

I put a Atlantis on a SMPL just to try it On something different and instantly shorted battery. Threw it in a pile of snow and it melted all the way into the ic at the bottom

 

[pistolpete]

I put a Atlantis on a SMPL just to try it On something different and instantly shorted battery. Threw it in a pile of snow and it
melted all the way into the ic at the bottom

That's why all these types of highbrid mods should come with a warning sheet but the smpl mod will vent unlike the 4 nine mods

 

[Tagi]

Every single mech I own is one of these hybrids. I sold off all that used a positive pin. The mod makers have nothing to do with the vape shop employees recommending mods that are aimed toward experienced vapors to newbies. Bottom line is any atty without a positive pin that is compatible with a hybrid mod was not designed to work with this type of mod. If you put one on a hybrid and it shorts, its your own fault.

I don't need a nanny to dictate how I do things. There is only one thing in life that is 100% guaranteed.

Edit - Posted by a odd libertarian that when told by others how he should do things responds with a mind your own business. I am not trying to be hostile towards anyone. If these mods do not fit into your vape needs don't by them. Mods like the SMPL are however exactly what I want in a mech.

 

[WattWick]

That's not a hybrid. That's a hybrid adapter.

Difference being that a hybrid is a both an atty and a mod. A hybrid adapter simply lets you put an atty on a mod - regardless of the atty being suited for such. Whether it's suited or not depends on the design of the 510 connector on your atty. Hybrids don't use 510 connectors. That's part of what makes them a hybrid.

Sorry if this came out a bit ranty. I'm just a bit on edge about all the "WOLF WOLF"-ing going on lately. The technical aspects of vaping is safe and sound as long as people stick to what they know and learn before doing what they don't.

 

[tj99959]

Knowledge is a wonderful thing. Hybrid mods were made to be used with specific toppers. If a person is using any other topper than what they were designed for, they had damn well better know what they are doing.

I don't use hybrid mods simply because my RDA of choice was not designed for them.

 

[vapero]

with more hybrids coming out there should be a redesign on the 510 of all atties to acomodate some safety features, positive pins on toppers should be made to protude a bit more than today's stuff and make them fixed or really tight
the derringer is a perfect example of this, it was made to be paired with their praxis mod hybrid

 

[NCCTC]

Referring to the OP. No floating pin atomizers should be used on any hybrid cap. And non-floating pins need to be long enough
so as not to cause shorting. I add either a paper-thin piece of delrin, or an o-ring to my other hybrid caps that don't come with them.
Knowledge is power people ... let's keep each other safe.

That's why all these types of highbrid mods should come with a warning sheet but the smpl mod will vent unlike the 4 nine mods

I keep hearing this. However, as a 4Nine owner, it's just not the case. The 4Nine does vent. I've heard that some of the clones
do not vent; so be careful there. Also, the designers (Tarsius Customs) suggest using only button top batteries in this device.
That's what I use, and the mod works great.

 

[kkahmann]

I'm new to vaping and I just want to quit smoking. I don't need to be cloud chasing nor even flavor chasing. I'm not into dripping nor rebuilding. I got an eleaf Istick 20w with a Nauty Mini.

Have I got this right? Mechanical Mods are like mushroom picking--if you're going to fool with them you better know what you are doing.

 

[NCCTC]

I'm new to vaping and I just want to quit smoking. I don't need to be cloud chasing nor even flavor chasing. I'm not into dripping nor rebuilding. I got an eleaf Istick 20w with a Nauty Mini.

Have I got this right? Mechanical Mods are like mushroom picking--if you're going to fool with them you better know what you are doing.

Yup, you've got it right. On both points.

 

[WharfRat1976]

That's not a hybrid. That's a hybrid adapter.

Difference being that a hybrid is a both an atty and a mod. A hybrid adapter simply lets you put an atty on a mod - regardless of the atty being suited for such. Whether it's suited or not depends on the design of the 510 connector on your atty. Hybrids don't use 510 connectors. That's part of what makes them a hybrid.

Sorry if this came out a bit ranty. I'm just a bit on edge about all the "WOLF WOLF"-ing going on lately. The technical aspects of vaping is safe and sound as long as people stick to what they know and learn before doing what they don't.

It's sold as a hybrid. I have genniy hybrids that were the original "hybrid." Why they call these pin less mods hybrids I will never understand.

 

[pistolpete]

Referring to the OP. No floating pin atomizers should be used on any hybrid cap. And non-floating pins need to be long enough
so as not to cause shorting. I add either a paper-thin piece of delrin, or an o-ring to my other hybrid caps that don't come with them.
Knowledge is power people ... let's keep each other safe.

If you won't take my word for it maybe U will take one of the popular newbies the word for it I still use my 4 nine mod im just totally in love with these SMPL mods http://youtu.be/nJKtJ00jSiQ

I keep hearing this. However, as a 4Nine owner, it's just not the case. The 4Nine does vent. I've heard that some of the clones
do not vent; so be careful there. Also, the designers (Tarsius Customs) suggest using only button top batteries in this device.
That's what I use, and the mod works great.

If you can't take my word for it maybe will take one of YouTube favorite newbies words for it
http://youtu.be/nJKtJ00jSiQ
Don't get me wrong I love my 4 nine mod it was the first highbrid mod I had

 

[pistolpete]

Referring to the OP. No floating pin atomizers should be used on any hybrid cap. And non-floating pins need to be long enough
so as not to cause shorting. I add either a paper-thin piece of delrin, or an o-ring to my other hybrid caps that don't come with them.
Knowledge is power people ... let's keep each other safe.

If you won't take my word for it maybe U will take one of the popular newbies the word for it I still use my 4 nine mod im just totally in love with these SMPL mods Hybrid Top Caps, Battery Failure, & A Little Advocacy Rant! - YouTube

I keep hearing this. However, as a 4Nine owner, it's just not the case. The 4Nine does vent. I've heard that some of the clones
do not vent; so be careful there. Also, the designers (Tarsius Customs) suggest using only button top batteries in this device.
That's what I use, and the mod works great.

If you can't take my word for it maybe will take one of YouTube favorite newbies words for it
Hybrid Top Caps, Battery Failure, & A Little Advocacy Rant! - YouTube
Don't get me wrong I love my 4 nine mod it was the first highbrid mod I had

 

[WharfRat1976]

Referring to the OP. No floating pin atomizers should be used on any hybrid cap. And non-floating pins need to be long enough
so as not to cause shorting. I add either a paper-thin piece of delrin, or an o-ring to my other hybrid caps that don't come with them.
Knowledge is power people ... let's keep each other safe.



I keep hearing this. However, as a 4Nine owner, it's just not the case. The 4Nine does vent. I've heard that some of the clones
do not vent; so be careful there. Also, the designers (Tarsius Customs) suggest using only button top batteries in this device.
That's what I use, and the mod works great.

I know you are not saying this but button top batteries will not avert attys that can short.

 

[NCCTC]

If you can't take my word for it maybe will take one of YouTube favorite newbies words for it
Hybrid Top Caps, Battery Failure, & A Little Advocacy Rant! - YouTube
Don't get me wrong I love my 4 nine mod it was the first highbrid mod I had

No worries. I posted there too.
Cheers!

 

[NCCTC]

I know you are not saying this but button top batteries will not avert attys that can short.

Yup ... never said that. Never would. That would be overtly high risk advice.

... And non-floating pins need to be long enough so as not to cause shorting.