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I am probably about to tee off everyone here but....

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ElProximo

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I know it is very Canadian to roll over and play dead when the government says BOO. I know its very Canadian to be polite, passive, and totally non responsive. I am SICK OF IT. Stand up for what you believe in already.

Well said and I totally agree. I'm actually ashamed of us sometimes in that we really do just roll over and 'yawn' or in this case 'shrug' when we really ought to be standing up even stronger than ever.

One thing I am becoming increasingly defiant is NOT allowing the government to simply replace Cigarette money to vaping money.
And they WILL do that. Already planned. Simply having massive taxes on vaping. This will ultimately lead to the death and illness of millions and all to save 'non-smokers' from having to be infuriated when they have to make up the difference after smoking disappears.

Anyways, YES - you are right and we need to stand strong and start fighting back instead of 'whimpering'. I'm actually hoping to talk to my MP this election and mention e-cigs.
Hey.. we can still be polite. Polite is good. But I want to politely make it clear I do NOT want these taxed a penny more than would be on a wristwatch or muffin.
Actually, I would prefer there were ZERO taxes on any vape products. None! Because if they claim smoking costs tax-money and social ills then put the money where the mouth is and make vaping as inexpensive as possible at every turn!

btw.. i can actually remember when a local Doctor pleaded with politicians they do NOT tax nicotine gum. He said if they really want to get people to stop smoking then make the nicotine gum so inexpensive in comparison that masses would choose the gum.
What happened?
Nicotine gum is regulated and taxed like cigarettes and so is the patch making them as expensive (if not more) than a pack of cigarettes.

Anyways, pardon my ranting and rambling but the OP is bang-on and that is the spirit more of us Canadians need to start getting into now.

Add - yes, its great everyone in Canada wakes up and shows huge community spirit over a hockey team HOWEVER imagine if we put just 10% of that same effort and energy into ACTUAL THINGS AFFECTING OUR ACTUAL DAILY LIVES, PERSONAL RIGHTS AND FAMILIES AND BANK ACCOUNTS?
 

runout_mick

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Nevermind lawyers, I'd be worried about pitchforks and torches if I was HC. I know I'm just about blind with rage at the hypocrisy and injustice of it all, and I'm about as mellow as a person can get without being in a coma.

Go ahead, try to force me back to cigarettes. It won't work. If I need to become a criminal, so be it, but if you come for me you'd better come in force.
 

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I also can't help but think, were I to be opening a Juice Web store, what a great move it would be to send mysterious ominous letters to the competitors asking them politely to stop selling nic juice... on grand opening day they would have ZERO nic and I would have ZERO competition...
 
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Lil-Stewie

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I also can't help but think, were I to be opening a Juice Web store, what a great move it would be to send mysterious ominous letters to the competitors asking them politely to stop selling nic juice... on grand opening day they would have ZERO nic and I would have ZERO competition...


Well I'm glad I'm not the only one with a tinfoil hat! Thoughts of some kind of underlying conspiracy have raced around in my head too but then again it's to be expected given that the only info we all have is whats been posted here.
 

Dondlelinger

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It's absurd Canada Government just wants a cut as per usual. They already know it's "safer" than smoking, who doesn't! You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out 4000 chemicals vs 4 which is better.......So they will do whatever in necessary to get their tax dollars, greedy .......n government.....We already are one of the highest taxes countries in the world (with a few exceptions) but they still need their cut on these.....man.I can see this going to supreme court of canada before getting resolved.

Its just sad I just found out about vaping and the success percentages, got me so excited that I purchased one last week. I haven't even received my ego yet but I already feel like a criminal thanks to HC.
 

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Well by definition it is sort of a conspiracy but I don't know if it truly is. What I can say is that none of the NRT's work and smoking is my only other alternative. Smoking kills, vaping doesn't... Yet the government still wants me to smoke myself to death slowly.

It's pretty clear to me that I am guilty of a crime... Not paying my addict tax like a good little smoker.
 

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Well by definition it is sort of a conspiracy but I don't know if it truly is. What I can say is that none of the NRT's work and smoking is my only other alternative. Smoking kills, vaping doesn't... Yet the government still wants me to smoke myself to death slowly.

It's pretty clear to me that I am guilty of a crime... Not paying my addict tax like a good little smoker.
Didn't ya read the script you silly wabbit? You're still breathing!
 
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