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I love this site! But too many categories even not for a noob. I hate to use the term noob anyway. I also find that just buying a bottle of USP vg, can save you 60% or more on your juice needs. Which I have many!! For the sub thing I put 8 mills of any space jam flavor into 29 mills of pure vg. I can fit it all into a 30 mill bottle no matter what, but make sure you leave room to be able to shake the bottle. This makes 3 mill nic juice. The space jam is 12 mills nic. I can't believe how the vg compliments the space jam juice! Even at 50 or 60 watts it's all day!!!! For my nautalis mini, which I still love so much, I use a 24 nic flavor mixed 50 50 with the vg. The nautalis bvc can handle the high vg at 10 or 11 watts perfectly. It's a win win!! Get a bottle of VG! LIVE TO VAPE - VAPE FOR LIFE!
 

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Aw-w-w-w, you can get so excited about a "discovery" and want to share that numbers just fly out the door! Ha! Perhaps Vic Vape meant a 60 ml bottle. :)

I've also "cut" my store bought juice with my own mixture of unflavored and "un nic'd" pg/vg simply to reduce some heavy duty flavoring. My taste "buds" have come into their own now, so don't need as much flavor to taste good.
 
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Will toss this out and leave it here. ;) :)

Can admit, I am giving DIY juice mixing a lot of consideration lately. A simple 50/50 base juice at the nicotine strength I prefer is dirt cheap. Flavorings are rather inexpensive as well. Then, you need a scale and some other equipment. I've seen folks mixing by weight & to me that seems a good way to do it.
 

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Will toss this out and leave it here. ;) :)

Can admit, I am giving DIY juice mixing a lot of consideration lately. A simple 50/50 base juice at the nicotine strength I prefer is dirt cheap. Flavorings are rather inexpensive as well. Then, you need a scale and some other equipment. I've seen folks mixing by weight & to me that seems a good way to do it.

No need to weigh anything.
Small measuring cups and a syringe.

If you can mix a drink you can mix juice.
 
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Will toss this out and leave it here. ;) :)

Can admit, I am giving DIY juice mixing a lot of consideration lately. A simple 50/50 base juice at the nicotine strength I prefer is dirt cheap. Flavorings are rather inexpensive as well. Then, you need a scale and some other equipment. I've seen folks mixing by weight & to me that seems a good way to do it.

I find a scale the easiest weigh. Syringes are the bane of DIY.
 
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I find a scale the easiest weigh. Syringes are the bane of DIY.
I still have not figured out how to place 1/4 drop to hit the weight accurately:D

Actually I get a good laugh(and I do have digital scales) at people discussing mixing by weight and making less mess, using syringes to deliver liquid into the weighing container.:blink: Ummm............ if I just use the Bottle then I'm done, have the same # of syringes to clean and one less Beaker/container and the scales to put away.
 

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I find a scale the easiest weigh. Syringes are the bane of DIY.
I agree 100% first started DIY using pipettes and syringes, what a pain! Syringes can be hard to read exactly, different syringe for EVERYTHING, and then all the cleanup....I bought some good squeeze bottles, put the PG and VG in that, put some NIC(100MG per ML VG based) in a 120ml dropper bottle...Most of my containers the flavors come in I can just drip/squeeze the flavors in... some(flavors) I need to use a pipette(4 oz bottles that just have a cap). Still, put the bottle on the scale, drip,pour,squeeze until you get the desired weight, tare the scale, and then move on to the next....when I'm done, most times nothing to clean at all! VG with a pipette, or syringe , UGH... PITA, even with a large gauge needle(14-16).

So, why DIY... Once you get past the initial investment, scale, bottles, etc...the ejuice costs something like .75 to 1.75 per 30ml depending on flavors....less than $5.00 for 120ml....It's fun and I actually enjoy doing it, I know exactly what's in the ejuice, and I know where and how it's made.... All good things....

But yeah, no downside, besides learning, and the initial investment, which you back QUCKLY... Even CHEAP juice costs $15 per 120ML.....I go through about 500ml-600ml a month(maybe even more)... So buying inexpensive commercial ejuice at a cost of $15.00, per 120ML that's $75+ per month, it costs me about $20-$25.....

I could be wrong, but I've never had commercial inexpensive ejuice that was really good, some was ok, but not great. Mine is USUALLY better. Although I've made some nasty stuff too(usually when substituting ingredients). That said, I've ALWAYS been able to fix it, re-mix it, as I KNEW exactly what was in it!

My biggest piece of advice...When you buy your first flavors, have recipes already that you want to make, and that you are pretty sure you are going to like! Then BUY the exact flavors and BRANDS to make those recipes. There are many brands, and many types of the same flavors, substituting usually doesn't work out well! Example -->

Strawberry --> TFA -- Strawberry, Ripe Strawberry
Banana ----> TFA -- Banana Cream, DX Banana Cream, Banana Foster, DX BananFosterr, Ripe Bananna

The DX Prefix means not supposed to have 'Acetoin' , 'Acetyl Propionyl', etc.....
Also, you usually can't just substitute the same amounts for the DX and non-dx and expect it to taste the same.... it won't. In some case, the DX and original non-dx will never be the same....

BEST scale to buy,

American Weigh Scales LB-501 Digital Kitchen Scale

Amazon.com: American Weigh Scales LB-501 Digital Kitchen Scale: Kitchen & Dining

Currently $22.91 -- You want the 500G version, they have three different capacities listed... The 500Gram is accurate to .01 of a gram, comes with calibration weights, and an AC power cord. Power cord is NICE as scale will NOT power off, most of the scales WILL power off after 90 seconds or so. The scale also has a back light which is nice...

The 1000g might seem better for a few dollars more, BUT it's only accurate to .1g, matters when making small test batches, trust me, and 500G is enough to mix 120ml at a time, perhaps more but that's what I make...
 

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Oh, another thing that is pretty cheap, BUT makes life easier... Small funnels...Why? I mix in 120ML bottles, steep it, and then transfer to 30ML bottles for daily consumption... Droppers work, but are slow and messy(I mix 70VG/30PG)...Funnel, quick, and clean. They too can be found on Amazon, just get the smallest they have...
 

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The only syringe I use with the needle is the 3 ml for the nic base. Being that I'm down to 1.5 to 3 mg nic, don't need anything bigger.

The 60 ml or 30 ml syringes (depending on amt. I'm making) are used without needles. Just hold finger over where needle goes, pour in the vg/pg in the amt. I want, quickly insert into mouth of big enough bottle, insert plunger, hold bottle and syringe together with one hand and plunge with other! Next comes the shot of nic into mix in bottle and any flavor (low if at all). Close up, shake and I'm good to go. 'Course, I'm not making gormet juice here.

I wind up having to clean two syringes IF I use nic and flavors. Otherwise, just one. :)
 
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Cut my nic to 6mg using 500ml bottles. Take 30ml flavouring, dump it into bottle with 470ml or so of my base. Shake, Done.

Single flavour, know the percentage, don't care too much about being super precise =really, really, easy peasy.
Yes, that is easy. I usually mix ejuices that have 3-5 flavors, so not quite as easy as that....I tried doing the single flavor mixes, but didn't like them as nearly much.... Sorta wish I did, as you can't get much easier than your method...
 

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I still have not figured out how to place 1/4 drop to hit the weight accurately:D

Actually I get a good laugh(and I do have digital scales) at people discussing mixing by weight and making less mess, using syringes to deliver liquid into the weighing container.:blink: Ummm............ if I just use the Bottle then I'm done, have the same # of syringes to clean and one less Beaker/container and the scales to put away.

I'm sorry but after reading several discussions on the subject you are still failing to grasp the concept. We don't use syringes ever. No clean up. Much faster and easier. Do it any way that makes you comfortable but try to understand the process if your going to comment on other methods.

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I have several mixes that take up to 8 different flavors to make. Instead of digging out all of those flavorings each time I mix, I make a 60 ml bottle of just flavoring. When I need to mix up a bottle, I only have to dig out that 1 60ml bottle of flavoring. Measure out what I need with a syringe, squirt it in the bottle I am mixing in and put it away. I dig out a 250ml bottle of my preferred strength of nic and fill the mixing bottle up by pouring it in. Put the nic away. Cap my bottle of finished e-liquid and give it a good shake and put it in my steeping box. I normally mix 60 mls at a time and transfer it over to my 30 ml working bottle. I can fill my working bottle twice from that original 60 mls. When it is empty I still have 30 mls for vaping and I make another 60mls for steeping. Works for me :D Isn't it great that there's no wrong way.
 
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