I have a dead MVP2

[Garemlin]

Suffered a death in the family. Came home and grabbed my MVP off the table. Didn't fire. Thought it was odd because I don't remember it being fully drained. Hooked it up to the charger and no light. Took it back off and pushed the button. Got it to turn on. Checked the battery level and it was 4.0. So I figured I would charge it anyway. Hooked it up and the green light came on. It had been on for a few hours and the light was off. Took it off the charger and went to turn it on and nothing. Nada. Zip. So this thing lasted all of about 6 weeks. Nice!!!! I do have another MVP that I have had a few weeks less than the dead one as well as two VV 3.0's that just came in this week. I really hope this isn't a sign of things to come with the rest.

I think I am just gonna bite the bullet and buy a damn Provari and be done with it.

 

[p.opus]

Sorry to hear of your loss.

Both my MVP 2's are still working, but I found my self pondering life without them. They were built to be disposable. I knew this.... Sure, I could always buy a new one....but what if they were no longer available? What if Innokin did something to them that I absolutely hated? I really wish the voices in my head would shut up sometime.

When I brought home my ProVari I felt conflicted. Almost like I had cheated on my girlfriend. I mean my MVP was my first love....(The VV3 was an infatuation...grin).

All the arguments I had made about the ProVari, all the stuff I said about the MVP....I had betrayed my MVP and my Innokin Army brothers.

But I quickly realized something...I had captured my Unicorn. I had found a device that I could love long term and was confident that it would last.....long term...

My latest stunt of submerging my ProVari in a full glass of water and having it come out of the experience unscathed sealed the deal. I currently own only two. A mini and a Standard. They are backups of each other and they represent all the available size batteries I can use. I no longer need backups for backups with my ProVari's. The odds of two failing within days of each other is so rare as to be almost impossible. If ProVari offers a V3 in the near future and provides a cost effective upgrade, then I might cycle them through. If they don't offer an upgrade, then I'm not sad about it either. The ProVari as is with a kayfun is an amazing vape.

The vape quality actually exceeds the MVP slightly in that it is more consistent than the MVP.

I still have a place in my heart for my first love, and I will probably always own one MVP just for travelling as long as they are still being made. But for my daily driver, one of my two ProVari rarely leaves my hand.

 

[ENAUD]

Sorry to hear about your MVP. I've got two of them and love them, even though my first ( about 4-5 months old) has a very loose center pin issue ( I did a jury rig fix with an o-ring). For 40 +- $ they really can't be beat, but when they crap out they are just more fodder for the landfills I got a Provari about two weeks ago looking for a device to have for the long haul. I find myself using the Provari more and more, and my MVP II's less and less as time goes on. They are expensive, but the quality of materials and build is top notch. I was able to check one out back last Christmas time at a party and was put off by the one button function, but after using the MVP's a bunch, then getting the Provari, the one button menu really isn't any more time consuming than the MVP's press and hold menu. It actually is pretty intuitive and straightforward after just a short time in use.

 

[sando7]

Mec Mod a good RDA & some Micro-coils = a mighty fine Vape!

sorry about the death of your MVP

 

[Pocha]

Sorry to hear about your MVP. I've been vaping exclusively on mine since November including a week long motorcycle trip to Death Valley. It's been bulletproof so far. I'm also intrigued by the Provari mystique but not having variable watts is a deal breaker for me.

 

[DavidOck]

Sorry to hear that, Garemlin. They're generally pretty reliable. Mine, a V1, is over a year old and still going fine. (Although it's not getting daily use anymore.)

Did the output switch on the bottom somehow get its position changed? And maybe try charging something else with it to see if that part still works?

And check the 510 post to make sure there's nothing causing a short, which will shut it right down.

 

[edyle]

Suffered a death in the family. Came home and grabbed my MVP off the table. Didn't fire. Thought it was odd because I don't remember it being fully drained. Hooked it up to the charger and no light. Took it back off and pushed the button. Got it to turn on. Checked the battery level and it was 4.0. So I figured I would charge it anyway. Hooked it up and the green light came on. It had been on for a few hours and the light was off. Took it off the charger and went to turn it on and nothing. Nada. Zip. So this thing lasted all of about 6 weeks. Nice!!!! I do have another MVP that I have had a few weeks less than the dead one as well as two VV 3.0's that just came in this week. I really hope this isn't a sign of things to come with the rest.

I think I am just gonna bite the bullet and buy a damn Provari and be done with it.

Maybe it's a switch problem.

 

[edyle]

Sorry to hear of your loss.

Both my MVP 2's are still working, but I found my self pondering life without them. They were built to be disposable. I knew this.... Sure, I could always buy a new one....but what if they were no longer available? What if Innokin did something to them that I absolutely hated? I really wish the voices in my head would shut up sometime.

When I brought home my ProVari I felt conflicted. Almost like I had cheated on my girlfriend. I mean my MVP was my first love....(The VV3 was an infatuation...grin).

All the arguments I had made about the ProVari, all the stuff I said about the MVP....I had betrayed my MVP and my Innokin Army brothers.

But I quickly realized something...I had captured my Unicorn. I had found a device that I could love long term and was confident that it would last.....long term...

My latest stunt of submerging my ProVari in a full glass of water and having it come out of the experience unscathed sealed the deal. I currently own only two. A mini and a Standard. They are backups of each other and they represent all the available size batteries I can use. I no longer need backups for backups with my ProVari's. The odds of two failing within days of each other is so rare as to be almost impossible. If ProVari offers a V3 in the near future and provides a cost effective upgrade, then I might cycle them through. If they don't offer an upgrade, then I'm not sad about it either. The ProVari as is with a Kayfun is an amazing vape.

The vape quality actually exceeds the MVP slightly in that it is more consistent than the MVP.

I still have a place in my heart for my first love, and I will probably always own one MVP just for travelling as long as they are still being made. But for my daily driver, one of my two ProVari rarely leaves my hand.

aww nothing wrong with that
sometimes you gotta get some experience first before you..... take the plunge

 

[Garemlin]

I have no idea what is going on with thing. I went out with one MVP and one VV in hand. That has now become my traveling package. When I got home I went to take a vape off of my other MVP (different flavor in the tank) and nada. That is what made me think it had somehow died and I didn't realize it. I have done that before. I get so caught up in vaping that I don't catch the battery being low. But this is the one with a wrap and is the one I usually take out so I always make extra sure this one is charged. So when I put it on charge and got no light a red flag went up. Checked the bottom switch and it was still set to off. Tried holding the power button while plugging in the charger. Hey maybe it has some sort of unknown reset. Still nothing. Took it back off the charger and saw the green light. Yay all is fine. Back on the charger it went and figured all was fine. Light went out so I figured it was good to go. Wrong.

So at this point I don't have the warm/fuzzy about the MVP that I did before. Yes I know anything electronic has an expected failure rate. I just don't want to be going through this every few months and not know if I will be left without a device to use. And I don't want to be spending $30-$50 every 3-4 months for a new mod when I get failures. I read all kinds of threads about Vamos, SVD's, Zmax's and others that die within a few months and become paperweights. I just yesterday sold off all of my SI/Halo stuff. So there is no back-ups there now. But that also gives me $125 extra in the vape fund. So I am thinking I will get this one replaced under warranty and turn around and sell it since it will be brand new. Then go ahead and buy a Provari for my daily driver. I will still have my other MVP (if it lasts) and my two VV's for on the go.

sando: I was actually considering a mech mod. Specifically a Panzer Black Hawk clone. They are so sweet looking. Mech mods take it into the tinkering/hobby level. I have already got into that much more than I had already planned with building coils for my PT heads.

 

[GeorgeWachsmuth]

Frankly, I have had no issues with my MVP. I don't use it that much anymore except as an occasional ohm checker for builds. One thing though,it was that device that launched me out of ego batteries and Evods (which are fine for some people!). I got one and some glass clearomizers and had a much better vape! Then I started rebuilding coil heads. I was screwed at that point! I got a very reliable, lots of history, changeable batteries regulated mod, the Buzz Pro. I had an even better vape, out of the reach of the MVP. Got a dripper or two and a mech mod. Very nice, I began to truly realize some very nice vaping and that rebuilding was pretty easy. I then got a Kayfun which is nice on the MVP but great on the Buzz. A mech mod was nice to play with lower ohm builds (not sub ohm) but it can drink batteries. The next is the Sigelei 20 watt (not waiting months for the untried Hana Clone) and this thing is now my go to device for drippers, Kayfuns..everything! Regardless..it was the MVP that really opened the doors to a better, more personal vaping experience. Good luck, the Provari is a great device!

 

[r77r7r]

@Garemlin- Where did you purchase to get such a long warranty?

 

[Garemlin]

Right on George!!! The MVP is what brought me out of the vGo world. It was my first true MOD. And while it lasted I loved it. Was great to take out and about. Though I am finding the VV's are even easier.

Mech mods intrigue me. But turning this into a hobby is not what I want. And I want something that is reliable. The closest I will be getting into the hobby aspect of this, besides what I already do with PT heads, is a Kayfun. But that will be for a better vaping experience only. Not for experimenting or tinkering. Build some coils, change some wicks and vape on. Not interested in sub ohm coils and becoming a smoke machine. I am trying hard to keep my focus on what vaping is all about to me. A tool to keep me off of the stinkies. To me building my own coils for my PT heads is pretty much the equivalent of rolling you own cigarettes. Getting deeper into it would be more like making your own pipes or creating your own tobacco mixes. LOL If that makes any sense.

 

[Garemlin]

@Garemlin- Where did you purchase to get such a long warranty?

I honestly didn't know they even had any kind of warranty until another member pointed it in another thread. Apparently 3 months is the standard warranty.

 

[Scott_Simpson]

I've had five MVPs (two v1s, two v1.5s, and my latest, the v2) ... three are in daily rotation, one was given to a friend, and I'm keeping one as a backup. All of them are still working just fine, and the youngest—the MVP2—is six months old, and is my daily out-and-about mod. After reading up on Li-Ion|Li-Po batteries at Battery University, I discovered that Lithium batteries such as we vapers use don't really like to be fully discharged; in fact, they seem to last much longer if they are "topped up" frequently, as opposed to waiting until the red light goes on before charging. Since the MVPs give such amazingly long runtimes, I just re-charge mine in rotation, even if the indicator light is still green. (That's why I have three in rotation; two to use and one being charged.) Also, Lithium batteries like to "rest" a bit after charging; I usually allow at least an hour before putting a freshly-charged battery back into use. Given reasonable care, I'd expect an MVP to last at least a year of moderate-to-heavy use ... at least, that's been my experience.

 

[sando7]

your correct about the Hobby & Tinkering and it's time consuming.
in my case i'm retired and enjoying carefree times around the house and this new hobby is filling the bill sorta-speak...really enjoy tinkering and after i'm done i'm rewarded with a fine Vape.
i remember not to long ago i said i would never sub-ohm, then i tried it and was hooked line & sinker, i can equate it to using the Kayfun for the first time and discovering how different & better the taste was...imagine the taste being better than the Kayfun, sorta hard to imagine but it's true....another thing about subbing i like is that you get an almost instant Vape and a small toot is all you need...i had to cut my jooze in half or better with VG because the Nic was way too strong for dripping; so another benefit for me by doubling my jooze stash...i go thru 2 VTC5 30A 18650's a day around the house (re-charging at 3.5V).
when i travel out i take my MVP or VVv3....all is covered.
just wanted to share my new found enthusiasm for learning/experience on a new level, not to sway anyone else from what they enjoy....Vape on ....and yes i remember the true mission, NO Stinkies!

 

[DavidOck]

Right on George!!! The MVP is what brought me out of the vGo world. It was my first true MOD. And while it lasted I loved it. Was great to take out and about. Though I am finding the VV's are even easier.

Mech mods intrigue me. But turning this into a hobby is not what I want. And I want something that is reliable. The closest I will be getting into the hobby aspect of this, besides what I already do with PT heads, is a Kayfun. But that will be for a better vaping experience only. Not for experimenting or tinkering. Build some coils, change some wicks and vape on. Not interested in sub ohm coils and becoming a smoke machine. I am trying hard to keep my focus on what vaping is all about to me. A tool to keep me off of the stinkies. To me building my own coils for my PT heads is pretty much the equivalent of rolling you own cigarettes. Getting deeper into it would be more like making your own pipes or creating your own tobacco mixes. LOL If that makes any sense.

Then skip the mech mod and go for the ProV or similar. With a mech, you need to "learn" when to change the battery, as no display. Unless you're preparing for vapocolypse, where the no electronics to fail might be a boon

Put the Kayfun on a regulated mod, best of both worlds. Unless you want to sub-Ω it. But then need to learn a lot more about battery safety, C ratings and so on.

Since you're already recoiling Kangers, you'll find the KF a snap. Lots of room. Nice bottom coil vape, and lots of it! (I typically run a 1.5 Ω micro coil, cotton wick, on my SvoeMesto KF style.) Looks good on mechs and the regulated tube mods.

 

[herb]

I've had five MVPs (two v1s, two v1.5s, and my latest, the v2) ... three are in daily rotation, one was given to a friend, and I'm keeping one as a backup. All of them are still working just fine, and the youngest—the MVP2—is six months old, and is my daily out-and-about mod. After reading up on Li-Ion|Li-Po batteries at Battery University, I discovered that Lithium batteries such as we vapers use don't really like to be fully discharged; in fact, they seem to last much longer if they are "topped up" frequently, as opposed to waiting until the red light goes on before charging. Since the MVPs give such amazingly long runtimes, I just re-charge mine in rotation, even if the indicator light is still green. (That's why I have three in rotation; two to use and one being charged.) Also, Lithium batteries like to "rest" a bit after charging; I usually allow at least an hour before putting a freshly-charged battery back into use. Given reasonable care, I'd expect an MVP to last at least a year of moderate-to-heavy use ... at least, that's been my experience.

I also think the charging differences that everyone uses plays a role in longevity, everyone doesn't charge the same way , I can't prove that it is a factor but I have little doubt that some will get significantly more life out of them over others just by the way they go about charging them.

Exposure to excessive heat and possibly even cold can have an effect as can repeated drops , not saying either is the case here but something to keep in mind.

 

[edyle]

I have no idea what is going on with thing. I went out with one MVP and one VV in hand. That has now become my traveling package. When I got home I went to take a vape off of my other MVP (different flavor in the tank) and nada. That is what made me think it had somehow died and I didn't realize it. I have done that before. I get so caught up in vaping that I don't catch the battery being low. But this is the one with a wrap and is the one I usually take out so I always make extra sure this one is charged. So when I put it on charge and got no light a red flag went up. Checked the bottom switch and it was still set to off. Tried holding the power button while plugging in the charger. Hey maybe it has some sort of unknown reset. Still nothing. Took it back off the charger and saw the green light. Yay all is fine. Back on the charger it went and figured all was fine. Light went out so I figured it was good to go. Wrong.

So at this point I don't have the warm/fuzzy about the MVP that I did before. Yes I know anything electronic has an expected failure rate. I just don't want to be going through this every few months and not know if I will be left without a device to use. And I don't want to be spending $30-$50 every 3-4 months for a new mod when I get failures. I read all kinds of threads about Vamos, SVD's, Zmax's and others that die within a few months and become paperweights. I just yesterday sold off all of my SI/Halo stuff. So there is no back-ups there now. But that also gives me $125 extra in the vape fund. So I am thinking I will get this one replaced under warranty and turn around and sell it since it will be brand new. Then go ahead and buy a Provari for my daily driver. I will still have my other MVP (if it lasts) and my two VV's for on the go.

sando: I was actually considering a mech mod. Specifically a Panzer Black Hawk clone. They are so sweet looking. Mech mods take it into the tinkering/hobby level. I have already got into that much more than I had already planned with building coils for my PT heads.

I've been reaching that conclusion too. Mech (+ kick + replacement parts).
As with tanks where the best thing is to get a rebuildable instead of throwing aways clearos all the time, with mods, better to get a rebuildable mod that having to too the whole thing just because a switch has a problem or because the center pin or the 510 threads has a problem.

 

[edyle]

I've had five MVPs (two v1s, two v1.5s, and my latest, the v2) ... three are in daily rotation, one was given to a friend, and I'm keeping one as a backup. All of them are still working just fine, and the youngest—the MVP2—is six months old, and is my daily out-and-about mod. After reading up on Li-Ion|Li-Po batteries at Battery University, I discovered that Lithium batteries such as we vapers use don't really like to be fully discharged; in fact, they seem to last much longer if they are "topped up" frequently, as opposed to waiting until the red light goes on before charging. Since the MVPs give such amazingly long runtimes, I just re-charge mine in rotation, even if the indicator light is still green. (That's why I have three in rotation; two to use and one being charged.) Also, Lithium batteries like to "rest" a bit after charging; I usually allow at least an hour before putting a freshly-charged battery back into use. Given reasonable care, I'd expect an MVP to last at least a year of moderate-to-heavy use ... at least, that's been my experience.

I think you can improve battery life by reducing the 'window' of operating;
by default the chargers charge up to 4.2 volts and the mod lets it drop down to 3.3 volts, and the plateau voltage the the battery stays longest at is 3.7 volts.
That is an operating voltage of:
3.3 to 4.2 centered around 3.7
So instead you can aim for :
3.5 to 3.9 centered around 3.7
or
3.4 to 4.0 centered around 3.7

=edit=
oops .. straying off topic

 

[ddarlington24]

As I currently own a mvp 2 ,svd I currently have had no issues out of mine but for it to just brick like you have decribed makes me think its more then likely the CENTER PIN. Has been pushed down and if that is the case it will not turn on or fire untill you pull the pin back to the correct position. I had this happen on the svd I thought it was dead but after pulling the pin it was perfect after the fix. It's usually caused be overtighning your tanks

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