I have an idea : How about using remote control glow plugs

[Catanonia]

I fly remote control helicopters and planes with Nitro Engines.

They have glow plugs in them, similar to atomizers.

A quick link to how one works

How does a RC Glow Plug work? What Glow Plug do I need to use?


They come in all types of size and power ratings and have to work properly. But they do fail at times.

A list of some types

O.S. Glow Plugs

Here is what we use to make it glow to start the engines

http://www.salveohobbies.co.uk/product.asp?id=1787

A perfect and very very cheap screwdriver ya thing ????

Plug in the glow plug and it starts to glow off the battery contained in the stick. Charge it using a wall adapter or a standard remote control charger.


Has anyone tried this before ????

I might have to have a play this w/e as I have everything at hand in plenty...

I feel a mod coming on. These glow sticks / starters easily last a few hours constant use and I am sure the batteries can be upgraded.

The best part is they can be found in every town all over the world. I can't see the FDA stepping into the remote control arena to ban them can you ?



Cat

 

[Catanonia]

Feck, the more I think about this the more it makes sense.

The glow plug sits inside the tip of the glow stick that contains the batteries.

Next fit an atomizer tube over it without the inards.

Next fit a cart and puff.

The only problem with the sticks is that they activate the glow plug as soon as they are in contact with the stick. Some kind of switch needs to by put in place.


A glow stick + wall charger run at about £8 in all uk model shops.

http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/acatalog/info_1_8405.html


Glow plugs are cheap in all uk model shops.

http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/acatalog/FieldAccs_Glowplugs.html

On that page you can get a card of 12 glow plugs for £27 !!!!!!!!

Compare to prices of batterys and atomizers we pay and have to get shipped. You can get these in any decent sized town.


Use the same atomizer casing every time and bingo.


JEEEEEEEZ I am so fecking excited, but it is 1am here in the UK and I need to sleep.

Experiments tomorrow, maybe a video as well

Cat

 

[surbitonPete]

I think if you do a search you will find out they have been experimented with and ruled out.

 

[Catanonia]

I think if you do a search you will find out they have been experimented with and ruled out.

bummer, will have to look.

edit.

Had a search, i am sure I can over come the problems.

1. No wick.... Who needs a wick, just keep the coil of the glow plug in eliquid.
2. Power...... Use the glow stick. It is built to do the job of heating the glowplug.


going to try anyway

 

[crazyhorse]

Good luck with this Cat. I hope it works like a champ. We need a better way.

 

[franklyspeaking]

Good luck with this Cat. I hope it works like a champ. We need a better way.

+1 I don't even care if it looks like an RC car....

 

[surbitonPete]

bummer, will have to look.

edit.

Had a search, i am sure I can over come the problems.

1. No wick.... Who needs a wick, just keep the coil of the glow plug in eliquid.
2. Power...... Use the glow stick. It is built to do the job of heating the glowplug.


going to try anyway

Fantastic....a solution to the atomizer problems will turn vaping into a whole new era.......you will certainly be my hero if you can work out how to do it. I have had so much expense with atomizers ...I may end up going back to smoking to save money.

 

[EDO]

Couldn't you use the VaporKing cart design....where the cart material surrounds the atomizer? Of course you would need a fire ......ant material surrounding the ato (in between the cart material and the ato)...just like the VK carts.

I don;t know how to post pics....but here is a link... go to the middle of the page.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo.../10757-kr808d-1-aka-vaporking-revealed-5.html

 

[Coombs]

My thought (havnt tried it yet) is to use a small amount of either fiberglass or spun glass as a wicking material, I dont know how well it would really "wick" but Im pretty sure this would work for dripping.
The only other problem to get over is fact that they have no switch,
Tough one......(lol)

I can't wait to actually give this a real test run
Been to busy lately but should be able to (start at least) this coming weekend

 

[THICKFOG]

It's been over 2 weeks,,,did it work,,not work,,still working on it,,well???? The suspense is killing me.

 

[planetofthevapes]

You know, people have talked about doing it, but I don't think anybody actually did it. They were posing possible problems. I think they all can be addressed. Having never seen/touched a glowplug or seeing one working...I would have no idea where to start. How did it work catanonia?

 

[crazyhorse]

I have glow plugs in my diesel engines. I know the ones in the V-8 Ford diesel are pretty small. Not sure how much voltage the controller sends to them but I imagine it's 12.

 

[Vee]

Interesting concept. I am much more interested in atty mods or completely new technology as, imo, the atomizer is the heart of the e-cig.

My question is what voltage should it be run at? Doesn't platinum and rhodium require much more current to heat up to whatever the nichrome elements in existing atties need to get to the same temp? And do those metals let off any chemicals when hot?

What about this?

Sullivan Head Lite (tm) II Glow Plug Igniter without battery or charger

I wonder if you could mod this as an attachment to a battery housing of your choosing.

For wicking, would cig filters work? I mean, they burn pretty good when you let your cherry go down too far... though you don't need temps nearly that hot for vaping, right? If it didn't burn, you could stuff a cig filter in a 510 or 901 cart and cut off the extra then screw the center part of glow plug into the cig filter? Guess you'd have to make sure that the coil didn't get too hot and melt the cart itself. Thinking about it, this sounds like it should be approached as a "cartomizer" design rather than just an atty.

Bah, just an idiot, who knows very little, brainstorming...

 

[RayJ1]

Glow Plugs are shaped much like a mini Spark plug.... for those who don't know. The interior of the plug is hollow and the igniting coil is inside the hollow chamber. These coils are generally made of very thing platinum wire and are designed to be powered by a 1.2 volt battery. The problem with using a glow plug is that you will need to drill holes in the plug to draw air through the coil. This would prove to be very difficult w/o destroying the coil.

 

[planetofthevapes]

Glow Plugs are shaped much like a mini Spark plug.... for those who don't know. The interior of the plug is hollow and the igniting coil is inside the hollow chamber. These coils are generally made of very thing platinum wire and are designed to be powered by a 1.2 volt battery. The problem with using a glow plug is that you will need to drill holes in the plug to draw air through the coil. This would prove to be very difficult w/o destroying the coil.

Can you explain why this is a necessity? If they needed air holes to work, wouldn't they come that way? Sorry, I'm a bit naive on this subject. Just wanted more info on it.

 

[Vee]

Wouldn't drawing on the cart provide the air or would that not be enough?

 

[Kewtsquirrel]

Wouldn't drawing on the cart provide the air or would that not be enough?

I was dicking around with some glow-plugs I had in the garage a couple days ago with alligator clips, and the vapor production seemed enough that if you mounted the plug and allowed air to pass through from under it, the air passing by would give you plenty of vapor.

Another option would be to divert the airflow from the bottom so it passed directly over the top of the plug. If i ever hit 15 posts i'll link a picture.

 

[planetofthevapes]

Ope, you hit 15 posts....link link link!

 

[RayJ1]

Can you explain why this is a necessity? If they needed air holes to work, wouldn't they come that way? Sorry, I'm a bit naive on this subject. Just wanted more info on it.

With our e-cig atomizer design, we draw air and fluid into the heating coil chamber. The fluid and air is heated by drawing it over the coil with suction. With a glow plug, it would be difficult to be able to this because there is not enough effective coil area exposed to heat the fluid and air mixture. It would work... but I believe that vapor production would not be up to what we currently use.

 

[Lakota]

Noticed these $4 metal pipes at variety store the other day. I had all else needed at home so I grabbed it to try this out having read this thread already.

Drilled and tapped a hole to fit a glow plug in the end. Did it in end so I could put couple drops of juice in bowl, one in plug itself, and control how much gets into glow coil by simply tipping pipe downward from horizontal position.

My experience is a waste of time. Put igniter on plug, glowing great, get a drop or two of juice on element and it goes dark, snaps, crackles, tiny trickle of vapor. Not enough voltage to vaporize instantly like ecig. Hooked it up to my a 12 Volt supply with variable output and slowly cranked it till I popped the plug. Plug popped before getting to three volts.

This seems to be a no go.