I have some reo work to do...at work

[thinkingaboutit]

Vapers just starting out with starter kits, or egos and clearos, are usually not that fussy about the ohms of their coil, or the airhole size, because they don't know much about it yet. They are just trying to get into vaping. Their gear usually doesn't deliver the flavour or vapor production of a Reo/RM2 combo, so anything that works considerably better than what they have would be welcome. I would be inclined to go just a bit hotter than their existing setup, say 1.6 or 1.7 ohms. 30g on 1/16" drill bit, 8 turns, (and is what I still use). Remember the Ego batts are usually set at 3.6V output so the Reo's going to deliver a bit more than that to whatever ohm coil they were using before. Plus the microcoil adds to the efficiency, and the RM2 gives heaps better flavour. I'd keep it simple, give them the 1.7 ohm coil, and ask them to come back and see you if it doesn't do what they want it to. If they come back you can ask more questions to see what they want. The risk is overloading them with info and choices at the start. Instead you could just show them how to drive it, and send them on their merry way. Usually the first puff where they see a heap of vapor released puts a smile on their face You are doing these people a great service, I hope they appreciate it.

Because I WAS one of those people only about 4 months ago, I can still remember what it was like. If someone asked me what ohms coil do you want on your Reo, I would reply with "do you speak English?"

Some spot on advice. One of the guys said it wasn't quite doing it...I asked about his juice. He answered "its medium". I'm trying to save them from going back to cigs, or for chasing the vape they won't find without a reo. If I had an RM2 and a reo early on...I'd have saved a lot of frustration and money. I know I am not alone from reading here.

 

[CATastrophe]

Kudos on a great idea, thinkingaboutit. I'm quite partial to Ahlusion for pre made juice. Can't really price compare as I just buy occasionally and it supplements my DIY. Oh, I did just try a new place, myvapejuice.com. I like the stuff I got, and it's 7.99 for 15ml. Pretty good price-wise, I think.

 

[Ian444]

If I had an RM2 and a reo early on...I'd have saved a lot of frustration and money. I know I am not alone from reading here.

I agree 100%. I'll be very interested to hear how you go. One would think that forward company management might express interest in the welfare of their smokers' health by offering incentives to vape, maybe a relaxation of smoking area restrictions for vapers for example.

 

[Borescoped]

Mt. Baker Vapor, $4.99/15mls for most of their flavors ($5.99 for signature blends like Hawk Sauce.... Go Seahawks!!!!). 236ml for like $35. They have a discount code also for juice almost all the time, run occasional sales, and do a military discount.


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[Borescoped]

I was thinking about this. Take a drip tip for each of them. Build multiple Reos at different ohms, say 1, 1.5, 2.0. Let them try all three and tell you their impressions. If the 1 is to hot and 1.5 is to light you'd build that person a 1.2 or 1.3 ohm coil.

This a great idea.


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[MamaTried]

cool on you, thoughtaboutit...

 

[turbocad6]

this is a great thing you are doing. I have a good friend that I too have been pushing to stay with e-cigs and I've tried to get him to buy a reo but sometimes people are just so stubborn. he's on and off with the e-cigs but just the little cig-a-like type things, smoking them along with regular cigarettes and every time I see him with a real cig I yell at him, the little cig a likes are just a tease man, get a REAL mod and you won't have to give in to real cigs anymore, but it doesn't help, in one ear and out the other. I'm waiting for some funds to clear up and then after the woody run I'm going to buy him a grand and stick my rm2 on it and see if he'll have better luck staying off reg cigs with the reo. it sucks to see someone so close yet still not quite close enough

 

[JayTater]

The main thing I would worry about with a new vaper, is the battery. My wife still has a tendency of overdraining her 18490's.. As for liquids, you can't go wrong with Heathers Heavenly Vapes, the descriptions on the site are pretty spot on, and you'll be hard pressed to find better prices for NET's as good as hers.

 

[thinkingaboutit]

Grrr....

Target #1 was nowhere to be seen today. Target #2 reeks, is already starting to give up. Trying to talk him into just a baby step of "for the day" tomorrow. Hoping for something good with Target #1 tomorrow.

 

[moondragon]

This is a wonderful thing that you are doing. Hopefully if one of them will give it a try and find out how nice it works, then perhaps the other two will follow. They have to be at the point where they want to quit, and I think people cycle through that phase, so if their most receptive phase is missed right now, they may come around again in a little bit of time.

 

[turbocad6]

honestly, one thing I've found is, anyone who is not enthusiastic enough to really get in there and buy there own equipment and try and learn what they can, and suffer through the learning curve then they may not really want it bad enough. no mater what equipment you give them, if they don't really want it bad enough then it won't help.

I went out and bought my sister a whole setup, bunch of different juices and different atties, showed her what to do and how to do it, she did it a few times , in between cigarettes mostly, and now it all just sits in a drawer somewhere... so the point is if they don't really want it and aren't willing to make the sacrifices involved then just buying someone a setup is not always the answer

now in your case, your guys are already buying stuff and already trying, in a case like that you're effort may make all the difference, same as my friend who has been playing with cig-a-likes for a long time now... at least they are trying somewhat and just turning them onto equipment that gives more than just a tease may be all they need... hopefully... but I find more times than not, just buying some one stuff doesn't really make them quit. it's almost like since they have so little invested then they only make so little effort. the easiest thing in the world is to just light a match and suck.... vaping takes some work and dedication and takes some sacrifice. you can guide them and give all the input and help you care to give, but if they don't really want it bad enough then sometimes there's not much more you can even do. it's very nice that you want to help and are willing to go out of your way to do so, but if the others don't have as much dedication to trying to do this as much you do then don't be too discouraged, there's only so much you can do...

I stopped buying setups for smokers just out of the blue because I've done this more than a few times for people I care about and honestly, not one that I have set up like that has really "stuck" to it. many smokers subconsciously really don't even want to quit, even if they say they do. they've got to really want it bad enough and no amount of stuff you can give them will ever really make up for that

 

[ric23]

kudos to you!!!

 

[nerak]

Remember that some smokers will need a high nic like 36mg to quit. Often people grab lower nic and think it should work. I only smoked 1 pack a day. And they were ultra lights. But when I tried nic any lower than 36 it was like vaping air.

Don't be afraid to give them 36mg at first. Chances are they are not vaping as much as they smoked either. I had to vape more often. Couldn't go the hour without a vape like I did with cigs.

Good luck! But don't get hurt if they fail. It is all up to them now. They must want it and be ready to commit.

 

[thinkingaboutit]

Remember that some smokers will need a high nic like 36mg to quit. Often people grab lower nic and think it should work. I only smoked 1 pack a day. And they were ultra lights. But when I tried nic any lower than 36 it was like vaping air.

Don't be afraid to give them 36mg at first. Chances are they are not vaping as much as they smoked either. I had to vape more often. Couldn't go the hour without a vape like I did with cigs.

Good luck! But don't get hurt if they fail. It is all up to them now. They must want it and be ready to commit.

Guy # 3 is going to like the .9 ohm coil I think. It kicked my .... a little. My goal is to let them use whatever juice they have, but if I see "low, medium, high" or a mg/ml level that looks low, I will make the suggestion. Thanks to earlier posts I have places to send them looking. I have a .9, 1.2, and 1.45 ohm coil ready to try.

turbocad,

I agree. The only reason I am doing this is I saw all three make their own efforts. Now I will try to save them trouble. Worst case is they smoke, I can't stop them. Best case, they fully listen. Middle ground is they vape with what they have knowing where to find me when they need help. Two of the three aren't friends in the traditional sense, but I would still be very happy to see them succeed. Even if I have to watch them suck a big light up tube.

Side note...double fisting the .9 and the 1.45, I do prefer the .9 at the moment

 

[thinkingaboutit]

Months later...guy #3 finally took a reo from me. Friday during the day he said he really liked it, sent him home with two fresh 18650s.

Tomorrow I hear how it went.

 

[rudy4653]

I have a hard time paying over 0.55 /ml! do B&Ms really charge $1/ml?!

as for juice suggestions, where I can only be of help at this point, Nicoticket has a variety of flavors, and the 30ml is 0.50/ml and the 50ml (60) is 0.37/ml

of they're using RM2s, any juice can (needs to) be cut- found that out pretty fast!

Wait until they realize they can go the DIY juice method and cut their cost down to about .04/ml!!!!
I just buy flavoring and add 3/5 drops in the 6ml bottle each time I fill my Woodvil. If I want to change flavors the next time I just rinse bottle, dry burn my coil & readyXwick, then good to go with next flavor or just go unflavored next time around.

 

[elscorcho]

One more suggestion for juices MT BAKER VAPOR.

Prices are ridiculous (.33 for 15ml / .25 for 30ml)

They have a bizzilion flavors!

 

[UncleChimney]

Months later...guy #3 finally took a reo from me. Friday during the day he said he really liked it, sent him home with two fresh 18650s.

Tomorrow I hear how it went.

Good on him! I'm anxious to hear how it went!

 

[thinkingaboutit]

Good on him! I'm anxious to hear how it went!

Call it "going". I don't think he wants to give it back

I have only seen him for battery charges. I take it as a good sign.

 

[thinkingaboutit]

Not sure what to say...I'm starting to think no good deed goes unpunished.

I just got a story from him that I can't really buy. About how it was in his pocket, heated up, sparking...blah blah. Knowing the spring would collapse even if the battery went nuts...I am quite skeptical. I am even more skeptical with the "I'll have to see what my wife did with it". I have this feeling he is trying to save himself $200 or so...and I expect to have him say they threw it away in fear. The description of the fiasco was almost exactly how it would sound if it was an ego...not a reo. You know, a story that's easy to find online.

Sigh. I hope to see it again. Even if it had a fried battery and a collapsed spring...I want it back. I hope I am overreacting.