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I messed up downgrading nicotine level....

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  1. Keekers

    Keekers Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Michigan
    I'm so sad, I ordered a bunch of bottles of ejuice and downgraded from 18mg to 12mg and had no idea that the difference in the throat hit would be so extreme.

    Is there any way to add nicotine to the juice or do I just have to reorder again?

    :(
     
  2. cricque

    cricque Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 2, 2011
    Leuven, Belgium
    Get some 24mg to get it back up, or get some Flash Liquid I would say
     
  3. Keekers

    Keekers Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Michigan
    Sorry I don't know what Flash Liquid is? So I should order unflavored 24mg ejuice? Do they have that?
     
  4. bobthesalesclerk

    bobthesalesclerk Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2010
    Pittsburgh
    :(

    I find 24mg to be to strong and 12mg to be to weak. 18mg has always given me a perfect throat hit. As already said buy some 24mg and mix them. If you want you can get high strength unflavored nice from blue mist and cut it but you would lose some flavor.

    Also try adding a few drops of 100 proof vodka. I've never tried it myself but have heard it will give you a much better throat hit without sacrificing flavor to much.

    Sent from my flashback honeycomb gtablet
     
  5. Keekers

    Keekers Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Michigan
    Hmm maybe I'll try the vodka so I don't have to reorder all the flavors in 24mg
     
  6. Richie G

    Richie G Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 15, 2009
    Lawn Guyland, NY
    Kristin, if it were me that needed to upgrade the nic level I would use the highest possible nic content allowable to get back to your 18mg. Using 24mg unflavored will severely dilute your flavorings. IF you are comfortable with it, get a hold of some 100mg unflavored nic and pull up one of those e-liquid calculators and plug in your target number. I would shoot for a 16mg nic target and see if the TH is sufficient before shooting for 18mg. You might just be fine with 16mg and there will be less flavor loss. Good luck.
     
  7. Keekers

    Keekers Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Michigan
    Hi Richie, sorry for the questions but can you explain what you mean by using the highest possible nic content allowable to get me back to my 18mg? I guess I'm not as familiar with ecigs as I though. Maybe I should get my title downgraded to noobie!

    What's an e-liquid calculator?
     
  8. markfm

    markfm Aussie Pup Wrangler Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Either 24 mg/ml or 18 mg/ml of the same flavor can be used, especially if you actually want to nudge the nic down. Equal parts of 18 and 12 will get you 15 mg/ml. Two parts 18 and 1 part 12 will get you 16 mg/ml. (In other words, take an empty bottle, fill it half way with 18, fill it the rest of the way with 12, and shake -- you now have 15 mg/ml).

    100 mg/ml is the highest strength nicotine base used in do-it-yourself (DIY). While it's not like plutonium dust, if you aren't into DIY you are probably best sticking with just mixing the 12 mg/ml with some higher strength of the same flavor.
     
  9. Keekers

    Keekers Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Michigan
    Ok so I need to re-order the flavors in 24mg :/
    Lesson learned!

    Thank you :)

    The only reason I wanted to decrease the nicotine was because I wasn't sure if it was better for me than the higher levels. I think I'll stick with 18.
     
  10. r77r7r

    r77r7r ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Feb 15, 2011
    Pa,LandOfTaxes
    It does take a few days for your throat and body and mind to adjust to the less nic level. If your objective was to to lower your nic level, like many here, you can try to get your throat hit back by using lower OHM cartos/attys or higher voltage batteries.
     
  11. Keekers

    Keekers Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Michigan
    Cool I've got some higher voltage batteries coming in the mail. Maybe that will help too! Thanks :)
     
  12. markfm

    markfm Aussie Pup Wrangler Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    If you're happy with 18, then just order 24 mg/ml, mix it 1:1 with the 12 mg/ml and you'll have 18 mg/ml :)
     
  13. Keekers

    Keekers Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Michigan
    Lol ok now I just have to figure out a flavor that will mix well with snickerdoodle, chocolate brownie, and coconut cream pie.

    Maybe vanilla! :)

    Oh, what would be the easiest way to mix them? Just in the cart?
     
  14. markfm

    markfm Aussie Pup Wrangler Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Not in the cart, use a small empty bottle, put the two liquids in it, shake, then use that bottle. You'll probably want 3 empty working bottles, one for each of the main flavors you mentioned. Ask whoever you buy the new eliquid from for a couple of them, they'll probably have them and do it for a pretty small cost (maybe complimentary).
     
  15. 0smitty

    0smitty Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 21, 2010
    Ft. Wayne, IN
    Sounds to me like you're best off cutting your juice with a teensy bit of alcohol...but trust me on this, vodka shouldn't be your first resource. I used some grape-flavored vodka, good stuff actually, to kick up the TH and lower the viscosity of some otherwise-good home brew juice a while back, and the results were tragically unvapeable.

    A few drops of PGA in a 30ml should do the trick. PGA is flavorless in ways that even the cheapest vodka is not, so your likelihood of off-flavors contaminating your juice is significantly lowered. That, and it doesn't take much PGA to do the trick: quite literally, no more than three drops, max...and that's assuming you're working with a high-VG base liquid. I won't use more than two drops for anything above 70%PG.

    Hope this helps! :)
     
  16. 0smitty

    0smitty Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 21, 2010
    Ft. Wayne, IN
    ^^ this. For example, I've found that VB's "old" watermelon was best between 2.4-2.6 ohms. Anything higher and it was like puffing straight air, anything lower and it would scorch the flavors out. Juices are only a small part of the TH equation. Shake things up a bit, try different hardware. You might be pleasantly surprised. :)
     
  17. Keekers

    Keekers Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Michigan
    Thanks :)
    I am going to try and see if I can adjust to the lower nicotine level with my new battery I got, it's got more power to it and it just came today. The lower nicotine level actually isn't so awful with my new battery so there might be hope! I appreciate your suggestion in case I need to increase the TH!
     
  18. Detroit

    Detroit Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 6, 2011
    akron,ohio
    i didnt read all the post but ide like to say i have both cowboy and dship and neither one have a perfumey taste, i let them steep 2 weeks and they were both great. the old lady perfers the dship as i perfer the cowboy(stronger TH)
     
  19. Keekers

    Keekers Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    Michigan
    Luckily I have become accustomed to the 12 mg and now the 18mg is really strong.

    Detroit, I have come to find that juices definitely need their steeping period!
     
  20. Mich1370

    Mich1370 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 6, 2011
    Barberton,Ohio
    I am glad that you r becoming accustomed to the lower mg. Being able to lower nic levels is always a plus!
     
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