I need a really simple answer

[CGlassford]

Ok, I'm not a stupid person. I am willing and able to learn about most things. But ohms, volts, mAh's and such just give me a head ache and confuse the heck out of me. So I really don't need an explaination of what these things are, I just need some help on what I need for my pv's.

I have a Smokeless Image Volt. Both maual and auto 78mm.
I recently won a FS ego kit. It came with a 1000mAh batt and a 650mAh batt.

I would like very much to try the FLuXomizer Clearomizer on my pv's. They give choices for ohms for both the 808 and the 510 and I have no clue what to choose. PLEASE HELP!! lol

Choices for 808: 2.4 - 2.6ohm or 2.6 - 2.8ohm
Choices for 510: 2.4 - 2.6ohm , 2.6 - 2.8 , 2.8 - 3.0 , 3.0 -3.2 , 3.5 - 3.6

I don't know the difference, or what the differences will mean to performance. I do know I like my vape to be smooth with a little TH. A very little TH. The cigs I smoked (and still do smoke a few a day) are very light and smooth and I prefer to replicate that as close as possible. I have a bad reaction to PG so my juices are at least 50/50 PG/VG.

Hopefully this is enough info for somebody to help me.
Thanks in advance!!

 

[carpedebass]

I've vaped 50/50 with clearos successfully but never tried fluxomizers yet. That said, my clearos were 2.4 ohm. But if you like little TH and smoothness, I think I'd recommend the 3.0 ohm or even higher. Make sure you stick with the single coils though...the duals will hit like a freight train...especially at a lower resistance. Beyond that, a lot of this is trial and error. As a general rule, lower resistance (Ohms) and more coils equal more TH.

 

[rj1]

If you really want to try clearomizers for your volt you need to start with a low ohm. I believe that they sart at 2.4-2.6. Its going to give you more vapor and a better throat hit but IMHO clearomizers dont wick well at all! Thats just my experience with them and they require a lot of fiddleing to get them to work properly if they work at all...

 

[mistinthewoods]

You have low voltage batteries. Stay with the lowest resistance cartos that you listed. Put a 3.6Ω carto on those batts you have and you'll be lucky to get a whisp of vapor out of them.

 

[rj1]

Carpedebass, I think Glassford is talking about clearomizers not cartomizers!

 

[AttyPops]

The equation is voltage squared divided by resistance. That, once you get used to using it, solves all the problems for any combo. You do have to know the e-cig voltage. Use 3.4 volts for the eGo style battery. Your target watts is 8.5 or less.

So, use a calculator, or this Ohm's Law Calculator and have at it.

3.4 * 3.4 / 2.4 = 4.82 watts.
3.4 * 3.4 / 2.0 = 5.78 watts (if you can find 2.0 ohm) nearly a 25% gain.
3.4 * 3.4 / 1.5 = 7.71 watts

So... most like 1.5 or 2.0 ohm stuff on eGo batteries for obvious reasons. Also, once you memorize this equation, you'll be able to use it for the rest of your vaping "career" for any combination of anything. Just remember that it's per coil. So divide by the # of coils if using DC/TC stuff.

Additionally, note that they don't recommend LR stuff on standard sized e-cigs due to battery stress (it's too small to put out the amps). So that means use the 2.6-2.8 stuff (bleck).

Note... you don't have to know an amp from an ant. But I know you can multiply and divide so there it is. I use this formula any time I talk about hardware. I have that calculator bookmarked. Every vaper should just know that formula... without electronics theory, definitions of ohms, watts, etc. Just know the formula "voltage X voltage / ohms" and you're set.

 

[carpedebass]

I would like very much to try the FLuXomizer Clearomizer on my pv's.

From the OP.......

 

[CGlassford]

The equation is voltage squared divided by resistance. That, once you get used to using it, solves all the problems for any combo. You do have to know the e-cig voltage. Use 3.4 volts for the eGo style battery. Your target watts is 8.5 or less.

So, use a calculator, or this Ohm's Law Calculator and have at it.

3.4 * 3.4 / 2.4 = 4.82 watts.
3.4 * 3.4 / 2.0 = 5.78 watts (if you can find 2.0 ohm) nearly a 25% gain.
3.4 * 3.4 / 1.5 = 7.71 watts

So... most like 1.5 or 2.0 ohm stuff on eGo batteries for obvious reasons. Also, once you memorize this equation, you'll be able to use it for the rest of your vaping "career" for any combination of anything. Just remember that it's per coil. So divide by the # of coils if using DC/TC stuff.

Additionally, note that they don't recommend LR stuff on standard sized e-cigs due to battery stress (it's too small to put out the amps). So that means use the 2.6-2.8 stuff (bleck).

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my post, but this is EXACTLY the explaination I was talking of when I used the word "HEADACHE" lol

I'm really more confused now than I was. So the lower the # ohm the more TH??? I really don't want a lot of TH. When someone uses the word "better" when talking of TH, I think they mean harsher on the throat. What I mean when I use the word "better" when talking of TH means I hardly felt anything in my throat when I inhaled.

I really don't want to seem ungrateful for any help offered and I definately don't want to seem stupid. lol I just can't seem to wrap my head around electrical stuff. I really want this method of quitting cigs to work and I'm afraid I will continue smoking until I find something at least close to my perfect vape. Trial and error I'm ok with, wasting more money on cartos that don't work I'm afraid will begin to cause problems with my marriage like cigarettes never did. So I have turned to all of you wonderful veterans and smarty pants' to help me.

Thanks again

 

[CGlassford]

I've vaped 50/50 with clearos successfully but never tried fluxomizers yet. That said, my clearos were 2.4 ohm. But if you like little TH and smoothness, I think I'd recommend the 3.0 ohm or even higher. Make sure you stick with the single coils though...the duals will hit like a freight train...especially at a lower resistance. Beyond that, a lot of this is trial and error. As a general rule, lower resistance (Ohms) and more coils equal more TH.

Thank you so much for this simple answer. Leave it to a fellow Texan to give it to me straight!!

 

[AttyPops]

<snip> So the lower the # ohm the more TH??? I really don't want a lot of TH. When someone uses the word "better" when talking of TH, I think they mean harsher on the throat. What I mean when I use the word "better" when talking of TH means I hardly felt anything in my throat when I inhaled.

Yes, lower ohms = hotter.

You're not ungrateful nor stupid. I posted it to help others also, since carpedbass already posted the easy answer. If you don't want to use it, fine for you. Nice of you to take the time to reply tho.

TH. The TH is a factor that is more complex. It varies. It varies by PG/VG ratio. It varies by e-cig/atty/carto. It varies by flavor. It varies by nic content.

General rules:
Watts = more TH.
More PG = more TH.
More Nicotine = more TH.
Poorly performing atty/carto = more TH with less vapor (harsher hit due to bad vaporization)
Some flavors = more TH
Some vendors add TH factors to the juice too.

So, you would want 100% VG or nearly so, lowest nic that works for you, flavors without added TH stuff (vendor/flavor specific... try em) and to keep the atty/carto working well.

There's a learning curve to this stuff. Usually with cigs, if you didn't like it... you'd just switch. You didn't have all these variables to mess with. With TH... I can have harsh juce with any ohm rating... and smooth juice with any ohm rating. So it may take some experimentation depending on your setup and juice.

Good Luck.

 

[carpedebass]

For sure juices will play a large part. Stay far away from the cinnamon and menthol or minty juices...I get the least amount of TH and most smoothness from chocolatey juices. The problem is, though...they have a tendency to clog up the cartos and atties. I'd stick with a good combination of 50/50 PG/VG juices and try to find one that's as clear as possible. Others may have more eexperience with smooth clear juices. I tend to like a ton of TH, so I go with the menthol type flavors that are clearer.

 

[tj99959]

OK as simple as it can be stated.
The lower the voltage -- the lower the resistance needs to be.

However this comes with limits. When we start explaining those limits, you can expect a headache.

 

[fender0942]

@cgglassford- I know the headache your enduring. I went through the same same thing, but I would just try to learn it. It sounds like you want the perfect vape for you and unfortunately unless you you get a VV mod your just gonna have to hunker down and learn it. It just comes with the territory of vaping.

Question to everyone- if you wrap your own Atty, would the more coils you wrap, give you more vapor? Obviously you must have the power to handle the resistance which I do. I am fiddling with my g-tank and figured the more coil surface you have the more vapor. Right? This goes back to the old battle of vaping at 3.7V with a 1.5ohm Atty is the same as vaping at 6V with a 4.0ohm Atty. The 4.0ohm Atty has more coil surface so wouldn't you get the same "heat"/"wattage" but over a larger area giving you increased vapor.
Did this make sense. I hope it did. It makes sense in my head. Hard to translate.

 

[CGlassford]

I guess I did forget to mention that I do seem to have found my perfect combo of flavor and pg/vg. I like the fruity and candy flavors to play with and keep from munching when I shouldn't, but mostly my favorite is the chocolate flavors at a 50/50 pg/vg. With this on my Volt with the SI cartos, I have pretty close to perfect. My reason for wanting to try the FLuXomizer Clearomizer so I don't have to change cartos or drip into cartos on the go. I have a 7-8 hour drive coming up and I would like something that is going to at least come close to lasting that long juice-wise.

 

[Sedateme]

I have an eGo. I use the 2.6-2.8 ohm fluxos and they are wonderful.

 

[carpedebass]

I would think you'd be OK with the 3.0 Ohm or so fluxomizer clearo...keep in mind though, I have yet to try the Fuxomizers. I'm just coming from experience with the Clearos.

 

[ime5000]

Yes, lower ohms = hotter.

You're not ungrateful nor stupid. I posted it to help others also, since carpedbass already posted the easy answer. If you don't want to use it, fine for you. Nice of you to take the time to reply tho.

TH. The TH is a factor that is more complex. It varies. It varies by PG/VG ratio. It varies by e-cig/atty/carto. It varies by flavor. It varies by nic content.

General rules:
Watts = more TH.
More PG = more TH.
More Nicotine = more TH.
Poorly performing atty/carto = more TH with less vapor (harsher hit due to bad vaporization)
Some flavors = more TH
Some vendors add TH factors to the juice too.

So, you would want 100% VG or nearly so, lowest nic that works for you, flavors without added TH stuff (vendor/flavor specific... try em) and to keep the atty/carto working well.

There's a learning curve to this stuff. Usually with cigs, if you didn't like it... you'd just switch. You didn't have all these variables to mess with. With TH... I can have harsh juce with any ohm rating... and smooth juice with any ohm rating. So it may take some experimentation depending on your setup and juice.

Good Luck.

atty pops, could you reccomend some of these flavors or vendors that add th variables to the liquid? if you cant advertise on here could you send me a pm? and thanks for the ohms law aspect to it too, i did HVAC for 6 years, dont know why i ever put it into perspective myself!

 

[AttyPops]

@ime5000 PM Sent.
@fender See this sub-forum and kick it around with them: Atomizer Mods

 

[JustaGuy]

CGlassford, I like high VG myself, up to 100%, don't care about TH either, irritating, in it for the flavor. I've found the mini batts do give less TH, less oomph as AttyPops said. When I use my Rivas (eGo clones), there is more TH.