I think I found a question that no one can answer

[want to quit]

Ok guys so I started vaping in March and as you see I love every minute of it the only thing I hate about vaping is that ever since I started my goal was to find a all day vape but man that never happened.

In late march I went to my gas station and they had these square disposable e-cigs for sale $10 a pop ($7 on the website)

Square Smoke Square Smoke Product

I already had a ego to that time but meh I still bought one since I wanted to try it out. The thing was actually pretty good they have a green menthol one and I tried the Red one.

Now to the point of this post. Yesterday I went back to that gas station and bought another Square disposable e-cig because I really really really loved the juice in that thing back in March so I wanted to see if I still liked it.

Well the sad part is I freaking love the juice in the Red Square and this stuff could be my all day vape but HOW IN THE WORLD CAN I FIND OUT WHAT JUICE THEY ARE USING?????

I emailed them no reply at all so if anyone of you knows 100% what juices from what vendor they are using that would be more then just appreciated.

As said I am sure no one knows but I am at the point where I can't find the answer myself and need all of you to help me out if you know the answer.

 

[FenderMetalheade]

I am not 100% sure what companies use for their pre-filled carts, but if I had to take a guess, its probably a Chinese juice such as dekang.

 

[Boodle]

Wish I had the answer for you. You've been helpful to so many of us here on ECF. Gotta be someone who has a way to track that juice maker! Cheering for you!

 

[NicLiq]

I haven't seen the Square, but there are 3 identical high quality disposables and they all use Johnson's Creek.

 

[Sdh]

Square Smoke Announces Online Marketing Partnership with Hearst Media Services / Bay Area

A phone number and contact number as well. It looks like they just sell disposables...nothing else.

For what its worth...ecigexpress sells a e-liquid for the X-3 and X-4 disposable...the e-liquid is the same as the prepackaged e-cig cart. I don't know if it would be similar...or not...good luck on your search.

 

[Major]

Ok guys so I started vaping in March and as you see I love every minute of it the only thing I hate about vaping is that ever since I started my goal was to find a all day vape but man that never happened.

In late march I went to my gas station and they had these square disposable e-cigs for sale $10 a pop ($7 on the website)

Square Smoke Square Smoke Product

I already had a ego to that time but meh I still bought one since I wanted to try it out. The thing was actually pretty good they have a green menthol one and I tried the Red one.

Now to the point of this post. Yesterday I went back to that gas station and bought another Square disposable e-cig because I really really really loved the juice in that thing back in March so I wanted to see if I still liked it.

Well the sad part is I freaking love the juice in the Red Square and this stuff could be my all day vape but HOW IN THE WORLD CAN I FIND OUT WHAT JUICE THEY ARE USING?????

I emailed them no reply at all so if anyone of you knows 100% what juices from what vendor they are using that would be more then just appreciated.

As said I am sure no one knows but I am at the point where I can't find the answer myself and need all of you to help me out if you know the answer.

Just a suggestion and one I have used with some success and some failure: Instead of an email asking what they use, find out their contact for getting a quote for an order. Be specific when asking for the quote and ask that they list the item specifics: size an mah of the battery, shelf life, actual number of "puffs" each unit has, type of juice and strength in cartridge/carto as some consumers are allergic to PG, packaging options, etc.

Certainly no gurantee it will work but I have managed to get a couple of suppliers to give the info I needed/wanted by asking for a specific quote with details. And I am talking about Hangsen and Kanger so it isn't so much they wont give the info up as you simply asking in a way they will respond to.

 

[bobsyeruncle]

I would bet on a Dekang tobacco flavour like: RY4, USA Mix or 555; if that helps.

 

[six]

They have a marketing and PR company working for them called Hearst Media Services. If you can't get a response from the website, contact their marketing/PR people. You'll get an answer. It's probably going to be bauway or dekang.

The only unanswerable question is this: If a tree falls in the forest and lands right on top of the only possible witness who happened to be profoundly deaf... did he or she scream?

 

[MagnusEunson]

OK... Square Smoke appears to be a part of Xhale Distributors or intricately tied together. Business and phone records indicate the same owners and officers. As well as maybe some interesting parallel and prior businesses (e.g. "sexual enhancers"). There then seems to be some ties pointing toward a Dekang RY4 formula or something from Nhaler.com. And there it gets a little more complicated because, as searches will reveal, there appears to be an "original" formula of Dekang's RY4 some people like better than the current one.

However, if I were you, I'd start with Dekang RY4 and Nhaler's "High Voltage" RY4 formula. -Magnus

 

[Critter Man]

Magnus scares me. A lot. Giving props, though, for doing the legwork

 

[webgeek]

That's a little spooky, Magnus. I understand that magicians don't reveal their tricks, but I'd sure be interested to know how you found all that.

 

[player30]

Last Sept, I started vaping Smokestik which has a fantastic prefilled menthol (my husband still only vapes SS). Looking to find a similar e-juice, Halo Coolmist comes the closest to imitating what I found in SS. Halo Truepure is what I now love, but my suggestion is to give one of these a try! Best wishes!

 

[FenderMetalheade]

OK... Square Smoke appears to be a part of Xhale Distributors or intricately tied together. Business and phone records indicate the same owners and officers. As well as maybe some interesting parallel and prior businesses (e.g. "sexual enhancers"). There then seems to be some ties pointing toward a Dekang RY4 formula or something from Nhaler.com. And there it gets a little more complicated because, as searches will reveal, there appears to be an "original" formula of Dekang's RY4 some people like better than the current one.

However, if I were you, I'd start with Dekang RY4 and Nhaler's "High Voltage" RY4 formula. -Magnus

Damn, You are in good hands now. Looks like you got a private investigator on the case. The information is out there, sometimes you just have to dig a little. Good work Magnus.

 

[MagnusEunson]

The problem is, as it's been documented elsewhere:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...kang-ry4-vs-dekang-ry4-flavor-difference.html

... so even if it is Dekang RY4 on record/paper and that can be absolutely confirmed (which it hasn't (yet)).... you've still got some variation to deal with.

:-/

-Magnus

 

[want to quit]

I called them up and the guy was super nice but told me he did not know where the juice is from and even if he did know it they would not tell me. His excuse was that I am not able to purchase the juice by itself they make it just for them. I smell BS but won't give up until I find out haha.

Thanks Magnus and everyone else.

 

[fray]

Soooo what does it taste like?

Is it straight tobacco? Is it sweet? Does it have a vanilla/ caramel taste?

 

[Adrena]

OK... Square Smoke appears to be a part of Xhale Distributors or intricately tied together. Business and phone records indicate the same owners and officers. As well as maybe some interesting parallel and prior businesses (e.g. "sexual enhancers"). There then seems to be some ties pointing toward a Dekang RY4 formula or something from Nhaler.com. And there it gets a little more complicated because, as searches will reveal, there appears to be an "original" formula of Dekang's RY4 some people like better than the current one.

However, if I were you, I'd start with Dekang RY4 and Nhaler's "High Voltage" RY4 formula. -Magnus

You sir are a magician! Well done

 

[MagnusEunson]

Alright, as I mentioned to you last night I picked up two of these. This morning I picked up a third. I tried one, a buddy of mine tried one, and they I broke one up and tried a reverse taryn spin to get the juice out. And that will conclude any efforts on my part in this Square search..... here is why.

- The off-the-shelf experience was like a slightly sweet 555, not really the RY4 I had expected after the searching. It had vanilla and nutiness with an aftertaste of light caramel. It was alright for what it was, perhaps the best disposable I've tried (I've only tried three though: Njoy, eSmoke, Square).

- I wasn't able to get much but I did get some juice out. I used a 2ohm atty, let it soak in, and gave it a vape. COMPLETELY different. Not like normal taste changes from using a carto. I mean, COMPLETELY different. This was still a tobacco but it was sweet w/ banana and vanilla and simple syrup. Like Gorilla Juice made of PG (thin) and overly sweetened.

W2Q, you might want to try to experiment with a 555. However, the only 555 I have left is from BWB and that is NOT the one you want to try here. Maybe Awesome Vapor... not FSUSA either. I can't remember the others I've tried.

I don't know what else to tell you, that's about the only options I have. I'm convinced this is something they've bought but it does change so much once out of their e-cig I have no idea how to compare it. -Magnus

 

[want to quit]

Haha thanks a lot magnus very kind of ya. I tried a couple 555 and a you are right the 555 has parts of the square juice with more sweetness. Thanks for buying a couple and go through so much research really kind of ya dr. Wish you a great time at Disney enjoy your sunday my friend.