I Thought the FDA was told by the Court

[gtxsliarmor]

I Thought the FDA was told by the court in the US that they have not right to take or shipments from China well I order from China when there is something I want that the E-Stores I buy from dose not stock well this is the e-mail I got from a china e-store that I am sure most of You know,
Dear Don Swad,

We are awfully sorry for this situation, we will refund you the goods cost USD115 as soon as we receive your returns. You may assured it. China EMS site will show when it arrives to post company.

Today, unfortunately, one of our customers met the same problem with Chicago customs, he contacted with them and got such reply: US Customs claims that the FDA seized the package BEFORE customs could process it. The FDA will not release any info on the shipment. It appears that the FDA did seize this.

Now it is a little complicated now. We really want to supply products to our US customers successfully. Hope it will get better soon.

Sorry again for the inconvenience.

Enjoy the weekend
Heaven Gifts.

I guess the FDA is above the Law, now I must blast My Rep's with E-Mail and phone calls to fine out why the FDA dose not respect the laws and courts of the U.S.A. what do You people thing?

Later,

Don Swad

 

[UberDuper]

That was only for Smoking Everywhere shipments and some other company. The order didn't apply to other distributors.

UD.

 

[Vicks Vap-oh-Yeah]

Not to mention the Appeals court has put a stay on Leon's order to have the FDA release shipments....so it's business as usual at the FDA and their objective to shut it all down.

 

[gtxsliarmor]

Well all I can come up with is to why the FDA is working so hard to keep the E-Cig and any thing to do with it of of our life's, is one thing someone at the FDA has there hand's behined there back and Philip Morris is filling it with nice smoke filled Money. As one of the self thinking American's left in the U.S. it is the only reason I can come up with and that, should tell people that have never used an PV or C-cig is that they work and keep You off the Cigarettes that would be the only reason Philip Morris would care about the E-Cig and sure in the hell is not or Health.

 

[Sun Vaporer]

The FDA uses all shipping companies like EMS to help them anytime they invoke an embargo. So be it in China or in Customs in the US, if a shipment is bound for a US address, the FDA can seize it at any point in time that the minute it is put in the shipping process.


Many Suppliers are now reporting that the seizures are taking place right in China. This we have not seen before.


Sun

 

[AJMoore]

Sun, is there a country we could have it mailed to (I have relitives in the UK) and then on to us? Would we get around the FDA?

 

[Sun Vaporer]

Sun, is there a country we could have it mailed to (I have relitives in the UK) and then on to us? Would we get around the FDA?

AJ--what they are doing is nailing everyone at the source, that being China. They are reading the barcodes as it goes though China Customs and taking it right there.

Customs works with the shippers and adds Company names and addresses to the bar code that are known to sell e-cigs. That is how it was explained to me. So from the Consumers end, there is no way to control this.

Sun

 

[CaptJay]

I saw a post here a while back that a company in china was shipping ecig stuff to a guy in Canada (the poster was commenting on Health Canada's drive against nic imports) labelled 'White shirt' - when it was clearly not shirt-shaped - and it cleared customs without a hitch LOL.

 

[AJMoore]

This is sad, very sad.

 

[jfdpl686]

I received my shipment from Heaven Gifts today. I'm in NY and ordered on April 1st; arrived without a problem yesterday (but I was not at home) and picked it up this morning.
Tracking was stopped on 4-4-10 when the shipment left Shangai; even USPS said "foreign sender preparing package".

I was planing to get more stuff from them when the attys went back in stock but now I'm afraid... oh god...

 

[gtxsliarmor]

Jorge if You were going to buy from Heaven gigts for the cost being lower on attys then go to Value Vapor.com He has very good prices you will see when You get to His site, I only go to the China E-store when I want something that VV dose not carry His attys are 4.99 and Dekang e-liquid is 8.00 for 30ml Here is starting to sell U.S.A made also but only has one right now. fast shipping always and a great guy His name is James.

Later,

Don

 

[jfdpl686]

Don,
Thank you for the info! Yes, mostly I'm looking for Joye attys. I want to have some "in reserve". I've been step by step getting liquid and finally found my niche; so I want to be ready with attys since I know now I'll stay with the 510.

I'll check this site out. Thanks again.

 

[noo]

So is it confirmed that the FDA has stepped up enforcement again? I just checked the March import rejection page and there was not a single e-cig related item listed on it. Has anybody had anything seized recently? If so what was the size of the order/markings on the box?

 

[Jules22871]

So is it confirmed that the FDA has stepped up enforcement again? I just checked the March import rejection page and there was not a single e-cig related item listed on it. Has anybody had anything seized recently? If so what was the size of the order/markings on the box?

Could you please post a link to that page. I would love to be able to watch it also.

 

[noo]

Import Refusals
^Lets you search (Type in a manufacturer to see if they get shipments seized a lot)

Import Refusal Report
^list by product type, e cigs usually fall under industry 66 - "Human and Animal Drugs"

Have there been reports of seizures recently? (ie in the month of April?)

 

[Jules22871]

Thanks for the links.

 

[Ralph T]

Well all I can come up with is to why the FDA is working so hard to keep the E-Cig and any thing to do with it of of our life's, is one thing someone at the FDA has there hand's behined there back and Philip Morris is filling it with nice smoke filled Money. As one of the self thinking American's left in the U.S. it is the only reason I can come up with and that, should tell people that have never used an PV or C-cig is that they work and keep You off the Cigarettes that would be the only reason Philip Morris would care about the E-Cig and sure in the hell is not or Health.

I think there are three main entities that are losing steady income:

1.) The tobacco industry. For obvious reasons.
2.) Federal, State and Local governments aren't getting their tax cut, at a time when coffers are empty.
3.) The health industry, (including insurance and big-pharma). We simply are not going to die as fast. This is somewhat delayed. But if we begin to die "less quickly" in massive numbers it will have a bad effect on their bottom line(s). Even the companies that market and sell the quit smoking products and drugs lose out to vaping.

I figured it out once. I contributed over $32,000 directly to #1 & #2 during my 30 year cigarette habit. As of today, in NM, I would be contributing about $6.80 per day to #1 and #2, had I not quit. These people want my money, and what better way to get it, than my return to a life-long addiction.

It sucks, but its really ALL about the money.

 

[gtxsliarmor]

The FDA got My order on 4/16/2010 And sent Me a letter the reason is "The article appears to be a new drug without an approved new drug application Federal FD&C act (21 U.S.C. section 331) prohibits the interstate shipment/importation of unapproved new drugs" it had 14 Pieces in the order just some liquid and Batteries. Just more Bull.... from the FDA.

Later,
Don

 

[CaptJay]

Makes me laugh (hollowly) - so the 'war on drugs' now includes tax paying American voters whose only vice is ciggies without the ciggie part. Legal drugs, not illegal or 'medicinal' mind you but legal, government approved stuff, like a drink or a cup o'joe.
Your tax dollars at work.
What the hell happened?

 

[katsmeeoww]

The FDA got My order on 4/16/2010 And sent Me a letter the reason is "The article appears to be a new drug without an approved new drug application Federal FD&C act (21 U.S.C. section 331) prohibits the interstate shipment/importation of unapproved new drugs" it had 14 Pieces in the order just some liquid and Batteries. Just more Bull.... from the FDA.

Later,
Don

It said that it prohibited the interstate shipment? Is this a new one?