i try not too in public!

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diabolic-mind

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i try not vaping in public, however if i am with my girlfriend shopping and it is taking awhile it is nice to know that i have the option too. i had a pretty crappy encounter back when i first got into vaping. it was about 1 week after i bought a vapor king at a mall kiosk. i know, i know, the mall kiosk's are very overpriced. i have since found a very affordable website to buy from. but it was a week after i got my vapor king, i went back to the kiosk and was talking to the guy who sold me the e-cig about how it did not seem to produce much vapor. he asked that i show him what i meant so i took a few puffs off of it and he said it looked like it was faulty. he asked for it and gave me a replacement at no charge. i then started puffing on the new one and was blowing out some clouds of vapor. i had noticed a group of younger guys sitting on a bench near the kiosk eye balling us. while i was testing out the new one 2 of these guys walked over and started screaming at me and the vendor about "smoking" inside. we both calmly tried explaining that it wasnt "smoke" and that it was "vapor" but apparently the concept of exhaling vapor was just beyond the comprehension that these two could grasp. after a good 10 minute debat with this guy a security guard walking through the mall stopped and joined in on the conversation. the guy was asking the security officer to have use both removed from the mall, but the security guard told the guy that he didnt have grounds to remove us from the mall. the guy finally walked away while still insisting that were were smoking inside. so since that incident i have tried to avoid vaping indoors to avoid anymore encounters with idiots like this. i do accasionally have a puff or two at walmart and such though.
 

jbblack

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Heh...would have been perfect for a couple of NLP patterns (neuro-linguistic programming). I would have gone with their assumption:

PFY: What are you doing smoking in the mall?
ME: It really does look like it, doesn't it?
PFY: It's cause you are!
ME: Am I? But I don't smell any smoke...

...and so on. Don't outright disagree, but instead "agree" with slight modifications in it that let the nagging little details come out--doesn't real smoke have a smoke smell, how'd I light it without fire, where'd the ashes go, etcetera. With a little practice you can steer the conversation toward them "deciding" that they may be mistaken, that the world just might be a little bigger than they realized. And since you're "agreeing" with them (hehehe) they really can't stay on the offensive. That makes a gap big enough for the facts to seep in. Look up "agreement frames" on Google and you can get a pretty good idea of how this works and how to do it.

The scant few times I've gotten "caught" by the self-appointed morality police (five or so) it's worked. One was a particularly cranky asthmatic at work (whom no one at work had ever heard of having an asthma attack and doesn't carry an inhaler) who caught me exhaling as I was coming into the building from the cancer corner. To her credit, she was only 100 feet away so as you can see had it been real smoke it could have been instantly fatal. Within 5 minutes I had her convinced that I'd switched to e-cigs because I didn't feel my prior habit was "fair to people with asthma". Which of course she swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

Little white lie, so I'll do penance later.
 
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