@loodeytunes... yeah i smacked my head

after i posted its like i'm asking you the difference between an apple or an orange... sorry mate
@A.Hadi from what I understand with what little knowledge that I have the Terminator C is just the "extended" version of the Odysseus
and yeah I agree with you regarding ss mesh they do bring out certain flavour nuances while muting others...
but the thing about the IGO-W is that i've been reading some people have 2x holes drilled on either side of the topcap at 0.5mm
while others have 1x hole drilled on one side at 1mm...