Ihybrid question.

[paladinx]

Hey guys.. I am new to genesis atties.. I have an ihybrid pure on its way.. Any tips or recommendations on the best way to set it up? what kind of mesh should i get etc.. This will be the first time I ever tried a genesis device.. Not really familiar on how to wick it other than i see people rolling it up and building coils on it. any advice tips or links to tutorials would be great.. Thanks guys
regards

 

[sedition]

Speaking as a beginner, it feels more valuable to treat a Genesis atomizer as a dripper with a bigger tank, rather than a tank with more coil options.

I transferred what I was vaping on the Origen V2 RDA straight across to the Origen Genesis V2, and enjoyed it. That includes the rayon wicking. Get the coil right, then start experimenting with wicking.

Additionally - it really is worth experimenting with mesh, and trying to find a wicking setup that works for you. But I must say that mesh is the ultimate equalizer - it will only make your juice taste great if your juice is great to begin with.

 

[TheOnyxEgg]

I would absolutely give mesh a few tries before dismissing it (as some are want to do). It takes a bit of practice to get it working right but when it does it's my favorite vape.

I typically use 28awg kanthal and shoot for ~1 ohm. (Been happy anywhere from .9 to 1.4) I use either 400 or 500 mesh, I've had good results with both though this is largely influenced by the viscosity of your liquid. (I use 50/50)

As far as method, I've had OK luck wrapping the coil directly on to the wick but have mostly been using the Petar K method lately and have had a pretty good success rate. Here's a link to a video of the method I use: https://vimeo.com/48356854

Good luck! I have a feeling that you will love it once you get it going.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Super easy genesis build tips:
1. Don't wrap coils on the wick.
2. Wrap and install vertical coils as you would in a RBA making sure they are slightly larger than wick holes in deck.
3. Make mesh straw wicks, torch them and slide them in.
4. Fill atty with juice, and vape.
5. Thank the Ninja.
No hot spots, no fiddling. No worries.
It's the Petar K method, so thank him too

 

[paladinx]

Thanks guys for the tips.. can someone explain the significance of what or why you would get 400 mesh wick or 200 mesh wick? Someone recommended i get 200.. some said 400.. another person said 400 outside 200 inside.. whatever that means.. I just don't understand the concept of the number or the significance of what one does over the other?

 

[paladinx]

I don't know that video was hard to understand.. some words I didn't hear what he said.. seems like a pain in the ... .. The other builds i saw with people wrapping right on the mesh seem easier..

 

[Bad Ninja]

I don't know that video was hard to understand.. some words I didn't hear what he said.. seems like a pain in the ... .. The other builds i saw with people wrapping right on the mesh seem easier..

Build the coils and install them on the deck, them roll some mesh into hollow straws and drop them in.
It's that simple.
(I torch the wicks before dropping them
In)

 

[WattWick]

Basic gennie setup the way I do it:

500 mesh cut to fill the wick hole and go halfway down the tank. Roll it up, soak in liquids - set it on fire and let it burn off. Stick in wick hole. Fasten coil to deck screw. Rotate atty to wrap the coil, tucking it down for every inside turn and making sure the wraps are tight enough, but not super tight. Pull wick towards center post and let the fastening of the nut/screw release it back into a straight up orientation. Double triple and quadruple check that there are no tiny gaps between coil and wick. If there is, you have failed and need not continue until fixed or re-done

Pulse out hotspots with gentle prodding where need be. Drip liquids and dry it out. Repeat if need be. Your wick should not glow for the first couple of seconds, or you got a hotspot or such. When done, I run some PG through it to clean it out a little.

Done.

Edit: 28ish awg. 0.32mm I think.

 

[TheOnyxEgg]

Obviously feel free to try either or both ways, whichever works best for you is the right way for you to do it.

As mentioned by Watt, one of the biggest things to look out for are sections of coil that aren't in contact with the mesh. This has typically been the place where things go wrong for me if they do. If you can't fire the juiced up atomizer for the duration of a typical drag without portions of the coil starting to glow, then it's time to either prod at the coil until you can or start over.

 

[WattWick]

Agreed! It is my unshakable opinion that my way is not the only way. Just like when I learned it I ended up picking bits and pieces from other peoples way of doing it. Only the end result matters - not how you get there. So... I think it's great to have a little collection of all our little takes on how to set up a mesh wick.

And there are variations in how I do it depending on different atties. The bigger the wick hole, the more likely I am to go for the cinnawick. On some atties it may be easier to wrap the coil before installing the wick. I don't like this as I always end up chasing loose wraps. But that's just me not being good at that specific method.

It is sort of a multi-stage process. And it is in your best interest to fail all the steps in as many ways as possible. You may make it to ... say... "step 4" and getting stuck - without realizing the mistake was actually made at "step 2". No idea what these steps are. Just trying to illustrate

 

[TheOnyxEgg]

To be sure, setting up a gennie is like anything else, the more you do it the faster and better you'll get.

It initially would take me almost an hour to go from a cleaned atty to a working wick and coil, it now takes me ~20 minutes after having practiced for a month or two. The quality of my wicks and coils have also improved considerably in that time period.

Granted, these are the first and only type of RBAs I've used so you may pick it up quite a bit faster if you have already been working with drippers or other RTAs.

 

[Chelonian]

Genisis attys have had a rough road from the very beginning.
For some reason, when they were popular, everyone was rolling hard, solid wicks.....me included.
What got me off of that was a Z Atty shipped with a wick that worked perfectly. It was a loose, flexible wick.
The thing is, out there in vape land, gennys now have a rep of dry hits, inability to chain vape, and being leaky.
The silver lining for me is that I can pick up high end attys that someone couldnt get to work for a fraction of the sale price.
I got my Arrow 17Ti for $30


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Edit:
Hopefully, this sub wont reverse the cheap resale value of good Gennys

 

[paladinx]

THanks for the tips guys.. buy creating the coil first, than dropping a hollow wick in there.. how come it doesn't have any of the problems you supposedly get when wrapping the coil on the wick.. How come there are no hot spots.. or no need to pulse the mesh etc. I don't know.. Some guys make it sound simple, and a lot of videos make it seem simple.. yet when people talk about it, it sounds really difficult.. I been enjoying this nautilus mini.. no rebuilding nothing.. and it has some pretty good flavor with the ceramic wick..

 

[WattWick]

By using a hollow wick and the 'drillbit method' (Petar K method), you can easily adjust coil tension from inside the wick. You sort of fix wick fit rather than coil tension. If you wrap directly onto the wick, you may end up with a tenser coil that requires more hotspot sorting to get right. You can work your way through a bit too much tension. Just takes a little more work.

Part of what makes some videos make it look simple is that they get all the steps right - and don't get stuck in a perpetual loop sorting hotspots, hot legs and hot/loose wraps. It's not so much about how the coil gets there, but how it sits once it's there. Whichever method gives you the best fit is the best for you.

I personally have no issues with solid wicks as long as they're made out of #500 mesh. My only issue with solid wicks is that they tend to heat-sink a lot if the wick hole is too big. 2.5mm wick hole or smaller: Anything goes. Bigger - straw wick. That's just me, tho.

 

[Chelonian]

Solid wicks have never been able to keep up for me. I always got dry hits by the third hit in a chain vape seesion


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[BuzzKilla]

I had to dig into my archived files, but this is what you want the outcome to be.....

the method doesn't matter as long as the outcome is the same.
But it should be noted that i build my gennys similar to WattWick....
It works! Just sayin.

I took this picture almost a year ago, and i just had a vape off it yesterday.... same wick! Same coil......
Still works just fine!

 

[WattWick]

Solid wicks have never been able to keep up for me. I always got dry hits by the third hit in a chain vape seesion


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For all I know, I may just be a slow vaper

... or we use different liquid viscosities. Or something.

 

[BuzzKilla]

500 mesh (Cinna-wick) & 80% VG..... still vapes just fine.

i must vape REALLY slow.

 

[edyle]

I had to dig into my archived files, but this is what you want the outcome to be.....

the method doesn't matter as long as the outcome is the same.
But it should be noted that i build my gennys similar to WattWick....
It works! Just sayin.

I took this picture almost a year ago, and i just had a vape off it yesterday.... same wick! Same coil......
Still works just fine!

errrr, so did the liquid turn green after a year?

 

[BuzzKilla]

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