IJOY CAPO 100W Squonk Mod

[Melita Hams]

Hello , recently I got the IJoy Capo Squonk mod together with the Original Digiflavor DROP RDA. Till now I cannot get them to work properly and not sure whether the fault is the mod or the coils I'm putting. For sure is that the Capo squonk if I use it more than 30w the battery will drain too quickly in a few time. The coils I'm using are ready made as i got then together when I purchased the mod. I tried from .05 ohm till 1.4 and still same. Other thing is that I use 4mg 80vg 20 pg strength nicotine juice and I still can feel it giving a strong throat hit but it produces few vapour but good flavour. Anyone please can help me out as I'm trying everything but still no luck. Thanks in advance

 

[untar]

What battery are you using?
What exactly are those premade coils? (wire material/gauge/etc)
Are you using dual coils?

As a heads up don't use the bottle with the soft sides, the bottom of that can pop out and spill juice everywhere, only use the harder one (I think it's dark plastic as well).

 

[Melita Hams]

I'm using the Ijoy 20700 battery the one supplied with the mod.The premade coils are made 0.5 ohm Kanthal wire. I tried both dual and single coil. I have all of these .
6pcs 0.3 ohm Fused Clapton coil
6pcs 0.3 ohm Ribbon Twist coil
6pcs 0.35 ohm Quad coil　
6pcs 0.45 ohm Tank Track coil
6pcs 0.45 ohm Tiger coil
6pcs 0.45 ohm Mix Twisted coil
6pcs 0.5 ohm Hive coil
6pcs 0.8 ohm Clapton coil.
Here is a picture of them.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

The Ijoy Capo Squonk tops out at 4.2 volts. To get a solid vape off of it, you'll need to build low. The coil heads that come with the Capo/SRDA kit are 0.13 Ω. With higher builds, it just doesn't have enough voltage.

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[Melita Hams]

I'm using the Drop from digiflavor on it

 

[untar]

The thing about the capo is it only has step down regulation, so the voltage your battery is at is the highest it can put out. If it's full that's around 4.2V and if it's empty it's around 3.2V. A good build for it would be one that works in that whole range.

Single coil would be easier to achieve since dual is a bit more power hungry and your power goes down the whole time. I'd try a single coil 0.3Ω-0.5Ω and since those look more on the massive side start at 30W and maybe go up to 50W (if it doesn't get too hot). With 0.3Ω your highest possible power would be 58W (that the capo can achieve) and not for a very long time, but you should be able to vape around 40W for quite a while.
With 0.5Ω you already need a less massive coil (simple round wire), there you peak at 35W and can vape longer at 25W - like above this is what the device can put out at those resistances and that's what your coils need to match.

Anything above 0.5Ω, especially dual coil, won't work very well unless you take simple round wire of lesser diameter (like 28g and above) and do mouth to lung, but then you likely need a different atomizer as well.
If you go below 0.3Ω you have a little more power to play with.

 

[Melita Hams]

I did put a single 0.33ohm coil fused clapton now and switched from 20 to 30 watt. Its a bit better but still not much clouds and the battery already drained to 30 % other thing is it plays with ohms as well. Guess the capo is a piece of crap. Have to buy something better.

 

[untar]

I think with 0.3Ω on those coils, even single, you're better off from 40W upwards, won't give you any more battery time though. The capo isn't the best indeed but it should be possible to get a decent vape from it and acceptable battery life.
Maybe not with massive coils though, you could try building with simple wire (26g-28g) or flat wire (0.8mm*0.2mm), that should make single coil work at about 30W-35W.

Btw does your battery have 4 or 5 legs at the positive contact?

 

[Melita Hams]

The battery has 5 legs at the positive contact. I will try to build a coil with kanthal wire (26g-28g) tomorrow as I only got 20 g and 24g. Is the Geekvape GBOX Squonker 200W Box Mod better or what I should get for the Drop Rda?

 

[untar]

A dual battery mod would give you full access to all coil types, yes. I don't own a gbox, but I have an aegis with the same chip in it and I can say it's a rather good chip, pretty efficient and the TC is solid.
There's a few other single battery squonkers new on the market like the VV pulse, the RSQ or the arctic dolphin alice, those all have boost capability (unlike the capo). It's a tradeoff between less battery time and more compact vs more power but also more clunky.

It's a shame ijoy butchered the capo a few weeks before release, they had a different chip planned but it seems there were some problems with it. Seeing their dual battery squonk released earlier this year the ijoy chip isn't the bees knees anyways, aegis/gbox chip beats it pants down.

 

[QcVaper]

The battery has 5 legs at the positive contact. I will try to build a coil with kanthal wire (26g-28g) tomorrow as I only got 20 g and 24g. Is the Geekvape GBOX Squonker 200W Box Mod better or what I should get for the Drop Rda?

First off the Capo squonk dosen't go to 100 watts it tops out much below that as it's a single battery mod and giving a full 100 watts on a single cell would be very bad for it.

I do own both the Capo Squonk and the Gbox with the Drop, the Gbox has an amazing chip IMO and works very well (no idea about TC as i don't really use that kind of stuff).

Up until now my favorite combo was the drop+gbox with some simple fused claptons in it (3mm Id, around .25 0hms always for me)

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

First off the Capo squonk dosen't go to 100 watts it tops out much below that as it's a single battery mod and giving a full 100 watts on a single cell would be very bad for it.

I do own both the Capo Squonk and the Gbox with the Drop, the Gbox has an amazing chip IMO and works very well (no idea about TC as i don't really use that kind of stuff).

Up until now my favorite combo was the drop+gbox with some simple fused claptons in it (3mm Id, around .25 0hms always for me)

The Capo squonk can do 100 Watts. Without even exceeding the CDR of the battery. Doesn't mean it's a good mod, but it is accurately specced.

You can do the math yourself, if you want...

4.2 V
0.14 Ω
30 A
126 Watts (ain't happening)

4.2 V
0.17 Ω
23 A
100 Watts

Neither exceeds the batteries CDR or the mods limits.

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[untar]

*a pedantic German appears*
If we're doing the math then we should factor in voltage sag as that wouldn't be negligible with that high a current draw and the capo being unable to compensate for that.
3.7V@0.13Ω ~ 99W (~28.5A)
3.5V@0.13Ω ~ 94W (~26.9A)
As soon as your battery drops below that then you essentially got a mech plus some protections.

That would be the real world max range I'd expect from the capo with a full battery (94W-99W). With 0.17Ω you get max 80W, you're basically forced to build ultra low to get high power from the capo.

 

[zoiDman]

Hello , recently I got the IJoy Capo Squonk mod together with the Original Digiflavor DROP RDA. Till now I cannot get them to work properly and not sure whether the fault is the mod or the coils I'm putting. For sure is that the Capo squonk if I use it more than 30w the battery will drain too quickly in a few time. The coils I'm using are ready made as i got then together when I purchased the mod. I tried from .05 ohm till 1.4 and still same. Other thing is that I use 4mg 80vg 20 pg strength nicotine juice and I still can feel it giving a strong throat hit but it produces few vapour but good flavour. Anyone please can help me out as I'm trying everything but still no luck. Thanks in advance

As other have mentioned, the Capo can Only Buck (make it Less) the Battery Voltage. So when you put in a Fresh Battery, the Output voltage at Most can be around 4.1 Volts. And as your Battery Voltage drains, so to does the Maximum Output voltage.

It Basically like using a Mechanical Mod. Only you can use Output Voltages that are Less than the Battery's voltage.

I would suggest trying Single Wire Builds. Maybe something like 26ga/28ga SS or NiChrome 80.

 

[BrotherBob]

Anyone please can help

Might like to post in :
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/forums/bottom-feeder-mods.934/

 

[Melita Hams]

As other have mentioned, the Capo can Only Buck (make it Less) the Battery Voltage. So when you put in a Fresh Battery, the Output voltage at Most can be around 4.1 Volts. And as your Battery Voltage drains, so to does the Maximum Output voltage.

It Basically like using a Mechanical Mod. Only you can use Output Voltages that are Less than the Battery's voltage.

I would suggest trying Single Wire Builds. Maybe something like 26ga/28ga SS or NiChrome 80.

I will try to do that tomorrow as I will get some new wire. How many raps should I do and what inner diameter should I go ? I just wanna get this as I so one in a shop using the Pico squonk and it looked great, but I do like more VV and WW mods other than mechanical ones .

 

[QcVaper]

The Capo squonk can do 100 Watts. Without even exceeding the CDR of the battery. Doesn't mean it's a good mod, but it is accurately specced.

You can do the math yourself, if you want...

4.2 V
0.14 Ω
30 A
126 Watts (ain't happening)

4.2 V
0.17 Ω
23 A
100 Watts

Neither exceeds the batteries CDR or the mods limits.

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No idea if you own it or not but no it dosen't do 100 watts (unless of course you build high enough 0hms then you don't even need 100 watts) most 18650 top out at 20 amps if even, and the battery Ijoy includes with the kit is far fetched and does not offer what's written on the wrap.
The single battery capo squonk is a bad mod nothing more or less do your research it does NOT do 100 watts as no single cell can push that high, usually they have boost circuit which helps to get closer to that mark but the capo does not and doing 100 watts with it and my gbox with the same build (i really mean the exact same build 0hms,id and all) you'll notice the difference.


If you want more details i've made a similar thread about it in the bottom fed apvs forum i believe where someone clearly explains as to why it dosen't do 100 watts. maths have nothing to do here it's the mod itself that's crappy. Pretty sure Ijoy's other squonker (the 2 battery one that looks like a gbox) is 100x better and will truly provide the desired power.

Another note is the fact most single cell mods are limited BELOW 100 watts any dna75 chipped mod are limited to 75 watts for that same purpose ,yes you can build for it but the mod still won't push 100 watts lolz as changing your build dosen't change what the mod can do.

 

[Melita Hams]

If you want more details i've made a similar thread about it in the bottom fed apvs forum i believe where someone clearly explains as to why it dosen't do 100 watts. maths have nothing to do here it's the mod itself that's crappy. Pretty sure Ijoy's other squonker (the 2 battery one that looks like a gbox) is 100x better and will truly provide the desired power.[/QUOTE
I'm trying to find that thread you mentioned but can't find it can you please give me the link Thanks

 

[zoiDman]

I will try to do that tomorrow as I will get some new wire. How many raps should I do and what inner diameter should I go ? I just wanna get this as I so one in a shop using the Pico squonk and it looked great, but I do like more VV and WW mods other than mechanical ones .

I can Only say what I like for Single Coils in Single Coil RDA's.

And that is a 3mm ID 26ga SS or NiChrome 80 Coil with 5 or 6 Wraps.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

No idea if you own it or not but no it dosen't do 100 watts (unless of course you build high enough 0hms then you don't even need 100 watts) most 18650 top out at 20 amps if even, and the battery Ijoy includes with the kit is far fetched and does not offer what's written on the wrap.
The single battery capo squonk is a bad mod nothing more or less do your research it does NOT do 100 watts as no single cell can push that high, usually they have boost circuit which helps to get closer to that mark but the capo does not and doing 100 watts with it and my gbox with the same build (i really mean the exact same build 0hms,id and all) you'll notice the difference.


If you want more details i've made a similar thread about it in the bottom fed apvs forum i believe where someone clearly explains as to why it dosen't do 100 watts. maths have nothing to do here it's the mod itself that's crappy. Pretty sure Ijoy's other squonker (the 2 battery one that looks like a gbox) is 100x better and will truly provide the desired power.

Another note is the fact most single cell mods are limited BELOW 100 watts any dna75 chipped mod are limited to 75 watts for that same purpose ,yes you can build for it but the mod still won't push 100 watts lolz as changing your build dosen't change what the mod can do.

I do own it. Works fine if you're aware of it's cutoff.

Your math is way off... And, yeah, math is important in vaping... And, I routinely vape on single cell mechs at 100+ watts. And, I have many cells - 18650, 20700, 26650 - rated at 30 Amps CDR.

Sorry you got hurt somewhere by someone... Smh

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